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Chris Kebab
15th Jan 2020, 07:35
https://www.janes.com/article/93654/uk-targets-april-for-swarming-drones-development-unit

Onceapilot
15th Jan 2020, 11:22
Amusingly, Two-Sixteen going from the heaviest to the lightest aircraft in the RAF. :)
Good luck to them!

OAP

1771 DELETE
15th Jan 2020, 11:58
We will soon have more squadrons than aircraft !

Union Jack
15th Jan 2020, 12:18
We will soon have more squadrones than aircraft !

Fixed that for you....

Jack

Bob Viking
15th Jan 2020, 12:36
A classic grumpy old git, Pprune post.

Just to put your mind at ease a quick peruse of Wikipedia shows the current RAF inventory as being 649 active aircraft (not including BBMF before someone gets smart).

Any of those are actually very modern and capable platforms as well. Obviously some will be retiring shortly and some new ones will come online.

So, whilst the pure numbers can’t compete with history it’s not all doom and gloom.

BV

Oh and I should add that whilst many on here will grumble about ‘drone’ technology I think we can all agree it is very relevant and an important modern capability.

downsizer
15th Jan 2020, 13:38
A classic grumpy old git, Pprune post.

Just to put your mind at ease a quick peruse of Wikipedia shows the current RAF inventory as being 649 active aircraft (not including BBMF before someone gets smart).

Any of those are actually very modern and capable platforms as well. Obviously some will be retiring shortly and some new ones will come online.

So, whilst the pure numbers can’t compete with history it’s not all doom and gloom.

BV

Oh and I should add that whilst many on here will grumble about ‘drone’ technology I think we can all agree it is very relevant and an important modern capability.

Mate, why do you bother.....? ;)

Bob Viking
15th Jan 2020, 14:05
Faaaaaaar too much time on my hands!

BV

Video Mixdown
15th Jan 2020, 15:04
Is this the UK end of Boeing's 'Loyal Wingman' project? The reference to Five Eyes participation would suggest it. First flight due this year.
https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/avalon/2019/02/27/boeing-unveils-loyal-wingman-drone/

MPN11
15th Jan 2020, 18:05
Is this the UK end of Boeing's 'Loyal Wingman' project? The reference to Five Eyes participation would suggest it. First flight due this year.
https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/avalon/2019/02/27/boeing-unveils-loyal-wingman-drone/
I hope it has a viable trimming system.

NutLoose
15th Jan 2020, 20:12
A congratulations, and just think of the possible savings, paint 1 Typhoon red and 8 drones and you have a new display team with a single pilot. ;)

Duchess_Driver
16th Jan 2020, 00:40
paint 1 Typhoon red and 8 drones and you have a new display team with a single pilot. https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/wink2.gif

Thread drift: the Singapore New Years celebrations were a formation of drones - very interesting to watch. a few more than 9 tho!

jindabyne
16th Jan 2020, 10:01
A classic grumpy old git, PPRuNe post.

Lighten up Bob - don't take the bait. You'll be one soon enough!
Cheers

Bob Viking
16th Jan 2020, 15:20
You’re absolutely right of course. That’s what happens when I haven’t flown for a while. I get jittery. Solved that particular problem today though. Feeling much better.

BV

Mogwi
16th Jan 2020, 15:39
Just think of the savings in flying rations!

Herod
16th Jan 2020, 16:07
Just think of the savings in flying rations!

Yep. Greatly improved health, less medical costs. I used to think there was more nutrition in the cardboard box than the contents.

Davef68
16th Jan 2020, 16:46
I would have thought, for drones, 213 would be more appropriate

NorthSouth
16th Jan 2020, 17:12
Interesting, but where will they train with them? Ought to be Spadeadam of course, but they'd have to close down all the airspace around it too

drustsonoferp
16th Jan 2020, 20:47
No location announced. Llanbedr?

Chris Kebab
16th Jan 2020, 21:08
Location is a very interesting aspect. They manage to get Watchkeeper over the A303 into the SPTA from Boscombe despite the number of "incidents" it has had - so maybe there? Unless they do all the development work in the States/Australia, lots of suitable segregated airspace there?

Abbey Road
16th Jan 2020, 21:56
I see that the Jane's article about the 216 Sqn reactivation states:
The RAF plans to field a 'swarming drones' capability to add mass to its capable but numerically limited aircraft. 216 Squadron will be stood-up on 1 April to develop this concept.
1st April? ;)

Herod
16th Jan 2020, 22:25
1st April?

Very auspicious date.
1.4.18, formation of the world's premier air force
1.4.65 commissioning of one aviation obsessed young man.

Davef68
17th Jan 2020, 08:51
Interesting, but where will they train with them? Ought to be Spadeadam of course, but they'd have to close down all the airspace around it too

USA or Australia (Woomera) are other options

Mil-26Man
1st Apr 2020, 11:19
Seems 216 Squadron stood-up today at Waddington...

https://twitter.com/GarethJennings3/status/1245247278102740993

Old-Duffer
1st Apr 2020, 12:01
I recall a very wise old man who said something along the lines of: "When you introduce a new concept, which your potential enemies might take up, you also need to develop the counter to it"

Old Duffer