PDA

View Full Version : Transport Canada Engine Certification Data


PPRuNeUser0211
12th Jan 2020, 15:47
Anyone know where Transport Canada keep their engine certification data online? I've been using EASA data quite a lot in my project, but I'm looking for some data on PT6B-67A, which doesn't appear in EASA land, Cheers all!

wrench1
13th Jan 2020, 15:19
I'm looking for some data on PT6B-67A, which doesn't appear in EASA land, Cheers all!
Is it possible you're looking for a PT6A-67, or PT6C-67? I don't recall a PT6B with that dash number nor is there a B-67 listed in the FAA TCDS either.

PPRuNeUser0211
14th Jan 2020, 05:16
That's really the issue - I've found data on every other variant I'm after. This one is only fitted to AC31 3. Definitely PT6B-67A

wrench1
14th Jan 2020, 13:32
That's really the issue - I've found data on every other variant I'm after. This one is only fitted to AC31 3. Definitely PT6B-67A
It appears the B-67 was only produced for the 313 and never certified under any western CAA. Perhaps a email to the CAAC can provide the data as they are the only ones who seem to have certified it for use?

Cyclic Hotline
14th Jan 2020, 14:39
The PT6B-67A is indeed unique to the Z8F/AC313, a rehashed Super Frelon. For reference it's simply a "-67" barrel in a "B" configuration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicopter_AC313
https://www.pwc.ca/en/products-and-services/products/helicopter-engines/pt6b

The sale of this engine resulted in a serious (and deliberate) ITAR breach and consequential monitoring of all United Technologies divisions for ITAR compliance. Some may remember when you couldn't get a part out of Sikorsky without a signature from a Company Officer or the President. I'll let you read the settlement and draw your own conclusions. I doubt that you'll get any information from China, or P&W for that matter.

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=edf916fd-5679-4407-8636-432db99ae0bd

jamnut
14th Jan 2020, 15:00
The TCDS for the PT6B-67A is available on the Transport Canada website, i can't post a link though. Try searching "NAPA issued certificates"

Cyclic Hotline
14th Jan 2020, 17:09
PT6B-67A Type Certificate. https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/saf-sec-sur/2/nico-celn/c_d.aspx?lang=eng&amp%3baprv_num=E-32&amp%3bISU_NUM=10&amp%3bSTART_DATE=2017-11-06&amp%3bAUTH_DESC=&amp%3bDESC=&amp%3bFRGN_NUM=&amp%3baprv_type=TA&amp%3bPARTS_NUM=&amp%3bid_num=1678

PPRuNeUser0211
14th Jan 2020, 18:53
PT6B-67A Type Certificate. https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/saf-sec-sur/2/nico-celn/c_d.aspx?lang=eng&amp%3baprv_num=E-32&amp%3bISU_NUM=10&amp%3bSTART_DATE=2017-11-06&amp%3bAUTH_DESC=&amp%3bDESC=&amp%3bFRGN_NUM=&amp%3baprv_type=TA&amp%3bPARTS_NUM=&amp%3bid_num=1678

Hero! The power of pprune. Thanks team, I'd have never found that in a million years of googling! The above explanations make sense. My next question is why that particular model has never been sold to anyone else? No requirement for something in that class? I didn't know about the United Tech sanctions either, pretty interesting!