Air Canada Dash 8-300 lost a wheel at Montreal (video)

[alph2z]

Sparks are seen on the video of the right inboard axle of the wheel and then the wheel rolls off at high speed as the airplane lifted off.

EDIT: It's the left inboard side.

Air Canada (Jazz Aviation) Dash 8-300 lost a wheel on takeoff at Montreal-Trudeau with 49 passengers and a crew of 3 on the way to northern airport Saguenay on Friday afternoon. Plane burnt fuel to reduce weight and returned to Montreal.

French passenger with France accent says "It fell off, it fell off".

See good video of the axle sparking and wheel falling off in News in French (https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/01/03/un-vol-montreal-saguenay-force-de-faire-demi-tour)


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[capngrog]

It looks like a bearing failure resulting in a grease fire. Faulted bearings can become white hot before they fail catastrophically.

This was apparently not the first time this has occurred with a Dash 8, and here's a link to the incident report:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5422f672e5274a1317000619/DHC-8-402_Dash_8__G-JEDR_11-11.pdf

Cheers,
Grog

[breguet]

Air Canada does not have dash-8, it is a Jazz Dash-8. Jazz operates flights for AC.

[Seat4A]

1min+ video, departure and return. Also turn on the volume

https://twitter.com/TomPodolec/status/1213602583220236288/video/1

[capngrog]

If a pilot ever needs to "grease one on", that was the time to do it ... and he/she did! Bravo!

Cheers,
Grog

[alph2z]

1min+ video, departure and return. Also turn on the volume

https://twitter.com/TomPodolec/status/1213602583220236288/video/1


French from France passengers said Pilot said to passengers that it was "no big deal"

😊

[Bournemouthair]

Air Canada Jazz Dash 8 #AC8684 to Saguenay lost a wheel

https://youtu.be/xtbT6IOKDsg

[AviatorDave]

nice landing!

[Seat4A]

Air Canada Jazz Dash 8 #AC8684 to Saguenay lost a wheel
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Yes, same video I posted yesterday (linked in post 4).

Also for reference, a great source of such things is

@TomPodolec
Sr. Multimedia Journalist, CTV News Toronto
Aviation Photographer......


He posted this before the video became available


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[YVRKid]

Air Canada does not have dash-8, it is a Jazz Dash-8. Jazz operates flights for AC.

I bet you're fun at parties.

[OldnGrounded]

Good job, pilots! And an excellent video, videographer!

[Jet Jockey A4]

It seems the passenger was videoing the problem while they were taxiing to the runway prior to the takeoff.

If so instead of continuing the video, why did he not say something to a crew member or at least have his friend shout out to the F/A that we think there is a problem with the wheel?

[WingNut60]

Meanwhile, from ABC News:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1233x741/image_6f27f808bbbacb5f1ed7e249a7ce3f6d4b435f56.png

[OldnGrounded]

It seems the passenger was videoing the problem while they were taxiing to the runway prior to the takeoff.

If so instead of continuing the video, why did he not say something to a crew member or at least have his friend shout out to the F/A that we think there is a problem with the wheel?

Two possibilities come to mind. First, it's pretty common, when shooting photos or videos to become immersed in that process, wanting to "get it all" and not thinking of anything else. Second, and this may sound unlikely, although I don't think it is: The passenger may not have actually understood that there was a serious problem until the wheel actually fell off.

[OldnGrounded]

Meanwhile, from ABC News:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1233x741/image_6f27f808bbbacb5f1ed7e249a7ce3f6d4b435f56.png


Gosh, that latest version has some significant upgrades. And I think the low wing looks much sleeker.

[MurphyWasRight]

Two possibilities come to mind. First, it's pretty common, when shooting photos or videos to become immersed in that process, wanting to "get it all" and not thinking of anything else. Second, and this may sound unlikely, although I don't think it is: The passenger may not have actually understood that there was a serious problem until the wheel actually fell off.

Another factor could be the probable (expected) response of the crew: Relax nothing to see, (whatever is brought to their attention) is normal.
Not intending to fault crew,it is is just a conditioned response from the prior 999 times a passenger brought something to their attention that was in fact not an issue, even if not 'normal' as in happens every time.

I suspect your first notion is likely closest though.

[EEngr]

You picked a fine time to leave me, loose wheel.

[Longtimer]

It seems the passenger was videoing the problem while they were taxiing to the runway prior to the takeoff.

If so instead of continuing the video, why did he not say something to a crew member or at least have his friend shout out to the F/A that we think there is a problem with the wheel?
1. FA would have been strapped into their jumpseats.
2. Very likely the sparks would not have been present until the aircraft had achieved much more than taxi speed.Passenger cries out, FAs unlikely to react as by the time the sparks were flying the aircraft was already close to rotation.
.......

[Maninthebar]

And today's winner is.........

You picked a fine time to leave me, loose wheel.

[Herod]

Agreed; a winner. But he's showing his age, and a penchant for C&W. Nice one.

[standbykid]

Dash-8 is one of the few commercial aircraft where you can see the wheels from inside the cabin.

https://youtu.be/-mlzUHxNMV8?t=39

[double_barrel]

Dash-8 is one of the few commercial aircraft where you can see the wheels from inside the cabin.


I was in a Dash-8 operating in Africa the other day with a great view of the wheels. On landing blue/grey smoke poured out of the wheels, I presume leaking hydraulic fluid heated by the brakes, and I could clearly see what looked like a locking collar rattling around loose on one of the hydraulic pipes.


Sometimes best not to see this stuff

[capngrog]

Meanwhile, from ABC News:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1233x741/image_6f27f808bbbacb5f1ed7e249a7ce3f6d4b435f56.png

John Nance is a very respected pilot and author, and I bet he's really cringing at having his name (and reputation) associated with the above ABC News screw up. Ah well, it's just the U.S. news media ... par for the course.

Cheers,
Grog

[Mozella]

It seems the passenger was videoing the problem while they were taxiing to the runway prior to the takeoff.

If so instead of continuing the video, why did he not say something to a crew member or at least have his friend shout out to the F/A that we think there is a problem with the wheel?
Because was afraid the flight attendant would spit in his drink once they reached cruise altitude? :ouch:

[Okihara]

I bet you're fun at parties.

L O L :)