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Stevo B
27th Nov 2019, 17:32
Does anyone know the whereabouts of a S-76 used by the Donald Trump org in both the US and UK? It was last seen in UK in 2018, removed from the UK register and not seen again. It was formerly registered in US as N76TE then in the UK as G-TRMP.

Thanks

horatio_b
27th Nov 2019, 19:01
From the Scotsman September 18th 2019:It was billed by Donald Trump as an “incredible” way to tour his golf resorts in the UK and Ireland, with well-heeled guests being whizzed back and forth across the Irish Sea and all around Scotland while revelling in the kind of opulence to which the US president has long been accustomed.But Mr Trump’s bold vision of bolstering business at three of his loss making courses by exporting one of his luxury helicopters across the Atlantic to woo wealthy golfers has failed to take off.The Scotsman can reveal that a little known subsidiary of the Trump Organisation tasked with overseeing a high-end helicopter charter service has quietly shipped back a multimillion pound Sikorsky helicopter to the US amid falling demand and “anger” at the Trump brand.According to multiple clients who booked the Sikorsky S-76B, the charges were “eye watering” even in the high-end world of luxury helicopter charters, with fees reaching as much as £15,000 for a “couple of hours.”Get a the latest news, analysis and expert opinion with an online subscription=center Subscribe Today (https://www.scotsman.com/subscribe/product-selection)Despite that, the Trump family firm, DT Connect Europe Limited, which is overseen by Mr Trump’s adult sons, Eric and Donald Jr, shows profit and loss reserves of nearly minus £1m.The director of a charter company which operated the helicopter on the Trump Organisation’s behalf told The Scotsman that custom suffered after Mr Trump became president.Richard Stubbs, a pilot and co-owner of Cardinal Helicopter Services, which had a contract with Mr Trump’s firm to fly the Sikorsky, said a decision was subsequently taken to offer wealthy clients - including US and Russian nationals - the option of flying without the ‘TRUMP’ insignia that had been prominently emblazoned on the aircraft’s tail boom.“In America, Trump is a brand,” he explained. “Obviously over here, it’s the focus of people’s anger, sometimes, so we operated with or without the name.”The decision to export the S-76B back to the US - where the rest of Mr Trump’s ageing air fleet is based - followed a short-lived stint during which the aircraft was primarily rented for use by an array of private clients who were not necessarily golfers. They included upmarket tourism firms who cater to rich clients from the US, Russia, and further afield.The director of such company said he never flew with the ‘TRUMP’ name visible, reasoning that it would have turned off potential customers.The Sikorsky, one of the world’s most sought after helicopters, is favoured by air forces around the world as well as celebrities who covet its executive travel credentials. Mr Trump owns three..One was shipped to Scotland via Liverpool’s Seaforth Docks in June 2014, just two months after Mr Trump’s purchase of Turnberry, the historic hotel and golf course.At the time, he promised the “incredible helicopter” would “connect the three dots” between his new flagship Scottish business in South Ayrshire, his inaugural resort in Scotland, Trump International Golf Links in Aberdeenshire, and Trump Doonbeg in Co Clare, which he purchased that February.

Stevo B
27th Nov 2019, 20:36
Thanks for this but this was actually my starting point. I'm trying to find out where it went after leaving the UK in 2018.

Regards

gulliBell
27th Nov 2019, 21:11
£15,000 for a “couple of hours" sounds about right for ad hoc charter.

wrench1
27th Nov 2019, 21:39
Does anyone know the whereabouts of a S-76 used by the Donald Trump org in both the US and UK?
Considering it shows as de-registered on G-INFO and N76TE is still reserved by the DT Corp in the US, my guess is that when it completes it's voyage across the pond and is re-registered in the States it will return to service as N76TE. Not too many B models around so I'm sure they won't sell it. FYI: the S/N in your title is transposed. Should be 760362.

Sir Korsky
28th Nov 2019, 01:41
last I heard they were cannibalizing the 3 ancient S76Bs he owns to try and create one semi-decent aircraft. He'd be lucky to get a million for it.

gulliBell
28th Nov 2019, 04:53
It would be worth a lot more than $1M after being broken down and sold as spare parts.

HeliMannUK
1st Dec 2019, 15:15
I last saw it at hanger Jaymax at Blackpool airport in the UK. Maintained by UK Aviation Services (UKAS). That was in late 2018 though.

Stevo B
1st Dec 2019, 15:26
Thanks HeliMann. Do you think it's still in UK?

HeliMannUK
1st Dec 2019, 19:08
Thanks HeliMann. Do you think it's still in UK?

No idea bud.

helipixman
1st Dec 2019, 19:38
If you ever find out where it is, I am sure it will be FAKE NEWS !!

Having said that on Aviafora website it shows that it Landed at Southampton Docks in November 2018 destined for shipment to Baltimore

see this page, scroll down to post 114
http://www.aviafora.com/forums/forum/helicopter-fora/general-discussions/932-movements/page4

Helipixman

all_mod_cons
3rd Dec 2019, 08:52
It last flew in the UK 26.09.18 EGNH - Southampton Docks. It was operated on Cardinal Helicopter Services AOC, they are currently the only operator of the S76 in UK with an 8 seat C++.

Autonomous Collectiv
3rd Dec 2019, 08:58
Who cares?

helipixman
3rd Dec 2019, 10:14
Who cares?
Obviously the person who started this thread, and those who have responded which includes you because you have looked at it.

helipixman
3rd Dec 2019, 10:17
It last flew in the UK 26.09.18 EGNH - Southampton Docks. It was operated on Cardinal Helicopter Services AOC, they are currently the only operator of the S76 in UK with an 8 seat C++.
I know that Cardinal operate G-PACO and G-ROON

Not 8 seat C++ models, do they have any connection with Von Essens two G-BOYF and G-BWDO do they operate them ?

Stevo B
3rd Dec 2019, 10:33
Thanks for the update Helipixman.

Taranto Knight
3rd Dec 2019, 14:11
As far as I know, G-PACO is no longer on Cardinal's AOC it is operated Part NCC out of the Isle of Man.

G-BOYF & G-BWDO SK76s (S76B), are owned by Von Essen Aviation and rumoured to be coming on to Capital Air Services AOC imminently

A not so warm welcome back to Andrew Davis, that charming rogue and c***k.

The very same man who started the downfall of PremiAir, went bust, sold to Graham Avery and the rest is history!!

FloaterNorthWest
3rd Dec 2019, 16:57
G-BOYF is on Capital’s AOC. I understand that G-BWDO is being used for spares.

FNW

heli14
3rd Dec 2019, 19:55
G-BOYF is on Capital’s AOC. I understand that G-BWDO is being used for spares.

FNW
good luck to Capital. Probably great for them in the short term. Medium to longer term does a leopard really change its spots? Get payment up front if you can. If any doubt look at what happened at PremiAir

Autonomous Collectiv
4th Dec 2019, 08:42
Would anyone care if the aircraft were owned by someone more anonymous? Of course they wouldn't, hence my comment. I find the ridiculous adulation or vilification of someone because they're in the news or 'famous' quite nauseating.

helipixman
4th Dec 2019, 09:37
Would anyone care if the aircraft were owned by someone more anonymous? Of course they wouldn't, hence my comment. I find the ridiculous adulation or vilification of someone because they're in the news or 'famous' quite nauseating.
This is your second post in this thread stating you or others don't care. The information given is or could be important to someone in helping with a decision in the future.

Stevo B
4th Dec 2019, 09:45
Thanks for your positive answers and contribution.

My only advice is don't get sucked into standard irrelevant interweb trolling - best ignored.

Regards

Steve

PilotEpisode
17th Dec 2019, 12:29
Obviously the person who started this thread, and those who have responded which includes you because you have looked at it.

That told them! :)

PilotEpisode
17th Dec 2019, 12:33
This is your second post in this thread stating you or others don't care. The information given is or could be important to someone in helping with a decision in the future.

Very well said helipixman, some people are so self-obsessed and thus struggle to understand anything from another's perspective!

chopper2004
25th Oct 2020, 03:11
One of Trumps corporate S-76B from his business empire is up for grabs

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37244/you-can-buy-donald-trumps-famous-s-76-helicopter-with-its-gold-encrusted-interior


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x540/d2d0c60b_ede5_4e26_a38c_34728a5496ff_cd162a9fd6bf4dae64a10eb 53d675e1532a1d2f5.jpeg

cheers

gulliBell
25th Oct 2020, 05:35
I think they'd be lucky to get their $875K asking price.

megan
25th Oct 2020, 06:38
But he's famous Gulli, which adds value to the merchandise, Michael Jordan got $560,000 for a pair of sneakers, Darth Vader’s helmet went for $898,420, a General Lee 1969 Charger from "The Dukes of Hazzard," owned by actor John Schneider, sold for a whopping $9,900,500. Put it on Sotherbys. :p

Bell_ringer
25th Oct 2020, 07:18
I think they'd be lucky to get their $875K asking price.

do you know what it costs to remove spray tan and combover oil from upholstery?! :E

Bksmithca
25th Oct 2020, 16:25
do you know what it costs to remove spray tan and combover oil from upholstery?! :E
Bell_ringer, I'm guessing that's why he's suggesting they would be hard pressed to get the asking price

B2N2
25th Oct 2020, 17:57
Would anyone care if the aircraft were owned by someone more anonymous? Of course they wouldn't, hence my comment. I find the ridiculous adulation or vilification of someone because they're in the news or 'famous' quite nauseating.

Well I read this thread because the whole Trump Trainwreck is somewhat entertaining.
I know I want to look away I just can’t.

gulliBell
26th Oct 2020, 03:05
You can't even buy a used 206L-4 for their asking price for the S76B. Goes to show how whacky the used helicopter market is. It might be a good money maker if you could find a contract for it which has a good standing charge and low flying rate.

industry insider
26th Oct 2020, 03:08
I couldn't get more than $350k USD each for a couple of nice low time B models a few years ago, even though they needed some calendar items attended to. I think they went for parts in the end. Anyone who pays a premium because this aircraft was owned by someone famous has more money than sense in this market for a 31 year old S-76B. It's sad, I am a huge fan of the S-76.

megan
26th Oct 2020, 03:42
Anyone who pays a premium because this aircraft was owned by someone famous has more money than senseAmen, but there a lot of them about, bragging rights I guess, I mean who would pay $96,000 for a pair of knickers (ex Queen Victoria) or a few million for a dress worn by Marilyn Monroe.

RVDT
26th Oct 2020, 05:31
"B" banger. Hard to get parts for them. Worked with the lads in Wiking in .de a few years back and they seemed to be the "go to" guys for 76 support in Europe and they really struggled to get parts and were "manufacturing" a lot "in house".

For a small shop it was pretty impressive and their own A++ mostly had more than 20K hours on them.

Never really worked on 76's but in passing to me they all seemed to individual and "hand made". Just sayin'.

gulliBell
26th Oct 2020, 06:28
..Never really worked on 76's but in passing to me they all seemed to individual and "hand made"..

That's right. I don't think Sikorsky ever built two S76's that were exactly the same.

GROSSER
26th Oct 2020, 07:34
S76B - what a machine.
It is a lot of helicopter for the money.
Only made 101 of them so rare😎

Ascend Charlie
27th Oct 2020, 01:39
Operated a 76B for 6 years, loved every minute. Plenty of power, glass cockpit, FADEC, and the slurping sound of those engines sucking fuel didn't worry the boss.

Paul Cantrell
28th Oct 2020, 16:36
I heard a funny story quite a few years ago about the Prince of Brunei's 76 and it's Malachite coffee table... Any of the Sikorsky guys know the story that could do a good job of telling it? I'm afraid it's been too long since I heard it to not butcher the story ( of extreme excess ).

JokersWildMk.2
6th Nov 2020, 07:22
Heard say N76DT had a buyer, inspection revealed a shot keel beam. Bye bye deal.