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pilotmorten
21st Nov 2019, 02:26
Hi there.

Ive gotten into a situation where I just got a OML, SIC and SSL restriction in my class 1 medical.

I got these, as I had an eye condition requiring medical treatment with medication, that does not go with flying. I’m fully clear of that now, but now there is a suspicion that I might have rheumatoid arthritis in my back, which can be the cause of the eye condition I had, and it might bring it back. It might never have it again and also, I can have it several times.

Because of this, my CAA required me to have the OML restriction, the SIC restriction which says that I have to undergo regular checks by a specialist and report to my licensing CAA and AME.

Would you think, this would prevent me from joining Qatar or do you think, that as long as I still can maintain a valid Class 1 medical I’m fine?

casablanca
21st Nov 2019, 17:03
Maybe google doctors who do Qatar medicals and try to contact them?
if it is allowed in U.K. or EASA then should be allowed in Qatar

bananaman2
21st Nov 2019, 18:57
I would go a step further and say you could even consider doing the entire QCAA Class One before you’ve joined (know a few people who’ve done this). Cost you £200 or whatever it is... will remove any doubt and will count as the actual when you’ve joined. Was refundable before, not sure about now... given we do the medicals inhouse. There are a couple of good Qatar accredited AMEs in Stanstead and Singapore.

pilotmorten
22nd Nov 2019, 01:36
I would go a step further and say you could even consider doing the entire QCAA Class One before you’ve joined (know a few people who’ve done this). Cost you £200 or whatever it is... will remove any doubt and will count as the actual when you’ve joined. Was refundable before, not sure about now... given we do the medicals inhouse. There are a couple of good Qatar accredited AMEs in Stanstead and Singapore.

I was actually considering doing that. But then I’m in doubt, that Qatar Airways would find me interesting with a few limitations on my medical. Or do you think they will hire me, as long as I have a valid Class 1 medical?

lfbb
22nd Nov 2019, 11:05
Although QR is very understanding if you develop a medical condition while working for them the same is not true if you try to join with some kind of condition. Idk why people on this region freak out over any minor medical issue involving pilots, I kind of get a feeling no one wants to take the responsibility to clear a pilot with any sort of condition. I’m not saying they won’t take you, but for sure they will give you an awfully hard time asking for all kinds of additional testings and reports. Best approach is if you’ve got nothing to show at this time just don’t mention it... and in the future if your condition develops any further don’t mention you’ve experienced it before. “Don’t ask and don’t tell” works best there...

Good luck!

Oblivion67
6th Sep 2023, 09:03
Thanks for the info guys.

Does anybody know, does Qatar (or any other country such as the UAE OR USA), have access to the EASA Medical records database?

I think Emirates require a complete medical history report from your EASA AME or was that just hears say?

Thanks a lot,

OB

Whitemonk Returns
6th Sep 2023, 10:02
Thanks for the info guys.

Does anybody know, does Qatar (or any other country such as the UAE OR USA), have access to the EASA Medical records database?

I think Emirates require a complete medical history report from your EASA AME or was that just hears say?

Thanks a lot,

OB

Emirates dont require a history check and neither do Qatar. Your bigger problem with QR will be trying to get out of the holding pool (8 months with no movement, some guys approaching 10) and then even if you do, being chucked on the 737 Max when you get there

Gordomac
7th Sep 2023, 08:39
Oblivion ; You will find it difficult to "hide" an existing Class one OML, wherever it comes from. Just pitching up , expecting no background history check is a bit naive.

Developing a condition to OML status within an airline is, usually well tolerated and handled. Joining, with existing OML is, mostly, not acceptable.

Honesty is good and less likely to have re[ercussion. Show QR that you are honest. Show that the OML restriction is very rare. OML's give Rostering a head-ache because they cannot roster two OML's together. That's all. Try showing QR that it is most unlikely that anyone else in the company has the same condition anyway.

A worthy fight is with your CAA. The likelihood of your condition re-surfacing, being so rare, should give strong reason to remove the OML. But, oh dear, they hate being told (!)

Oblivion67
17th Sep 2023, 10:12
Thanks Fellas/Gals,

I don’t have an OML, I did, but it was removed.

If I was to apply to say Emirates and Qatar, and required to start ticking the medical questionnaire boxes as yes etc, well it would change my approach if you get me.

I had looked at EK about 10 years ago, applied, received invite etc. That was prior to medical Issue. I’m pretty sure I remember them saying that they would require all medical records from EASA AME, that was standard. Could be wrong.

Basically you guys think that an application here consists of them just checking existing EASA class 1, with no restrictions, and completing a stand alone medical themselves?

in passing, do you guys happen to know if it’s the same for the FAA?

of course hounesty is the best policy, just wondering if they need a bit of targeted hounesty.

thanks again,
OB

Keep
18th Sep 2023, 23:47
After joining at what moment they usually schedule the medical examination at the clinic for the QCAA medical certificate? First week? Thanks for any info!

Gordomac
19th Sep 2023, 08:28
OB : Apologies. Got you mixed up with the opener, PilotM to whom I was suggesting blanket honesty and full disclosure was a better policy.

Also, just to clarify, from Rostering's standpoint, they will not decide on individual OML cases. Two OML's together- not allowed- no matter what the condition.

Esssss
20th Sep 2023, 23:44
Any idea if you get accepted in qatar airways , you can join them with an unpaid leave from your previous company or you must resign from previous employer to join them ?