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aa777888
27th Oct 2019, 12:13
https://nypost.com/2019/10/25/new-york-lawmakers-seek-to-ban-all-non-essential-helicopters-over-nyc/

nomorehelosforme
27th Oct 2019, 23:41
I shall step gently, do these gentlemen have the power to enforce this? Or is it something that will take years to get through the required channels?

Gordy
28th Oct 2019, 02:14
I shall step gently, do these gentlemen have the power to enforce this? Or is it something that will take years to get through the required channels?
They do not have the power......

I just put this on the discussion agenda for Tuesday...the HAI Tour Operator Committee is meeting in Maui....

Robbo Jock
28th Oct 2019, 09:23
At least 30 helicopters have crashed in New York City, causing at least 25 fatalities since 1982, the lawmakers said

They're aiming at the wrong target, they should be banning cars:

Apparently, in 2018 alone, there were 228,047 car accidents.
Manhattan has approximately 40 people killed each year due to traffic accidents, the Bronx has around 48, 94 deaths per year in Brooklyn with 93 in Queens. Staten Island is relatively safe with only around 17 deaths per year.

(Figures from are-car-accidents-common-in-new-york-city (https://www.dandalaw.com/are-car-accidents-common-in-new-york-city/))

gg17
10th Nov 2019, 22:09
A suitably strong statement of opposition from HAI:

HAI opposes Improving Helicopter Safety Act of 2019 (https://helihub.com/2019/10/29/hai-opposes-improving-helicopter-safety-act-of-2019/)

29 Oct, 19, Source: HAI New York City airspace is one of several highly complex and congested airspace regions in the United States. To ensure that operations are as safe and efficient as possible requires the expertise of regulatory and technical safety experts as well as industry professionals. Helicopter Association International (HAI) strongly opposes today’s announced “Improving Helicopter Safety Act of 2019” over the concern that measures within the act will have no positive effect on aviation safety over New York City, but will threaten the viability of the helicopter industry.

The perceived threat of commuter, charter and tourism helicopter flights that forms the rationale behind the Proposal relies on data that Representatives Carolyn Maloney, Jerry Nadler and Nydia Velazquez of New York had to reach back nearly four decades to gather. The crashes and resulting fatalities cited in the Proposal, are disingenuously positioned. The crashes and resulting fatalities cited in the Proposal are disingenuously positioned. Statistically, citizens on the ground are in far greater danger of being hit by a bicycle or motor vehicle. In 2018 alone, the New York City Department of Transportation reported 60,652 injuries and 203 fatalities involving motor vehicles. HAI’s top priority is and always has been safety, and along with our operators, we continue to work towards a zero-accident goal.

Furthermore, the claim that the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) “does not have any regulations, policies or procedures to account for New York City’s uniquely crowded airspace” is false. Updated every 56 days, or as needed, the FAA publishes Helicopter Route Charts for several “uniquely crowded” airspaces -including Baltimore-Washington, Los Angeles and New York City- to further enhance operational safety. These charts consider the unique aspects of each operating area and provide guidance on standard routes, specific altitude limitations when appropriate, standard frequencies and mandatory reporting points. The latest Helicopter Route Chart for New York City was updated on April 25, 2019.

The Proposal’s claim that there “is no minimum altitude for helicopters to fly at” and that commuter, charter and tourism flights are “generally not monitored or directed by Air Traffic Control” is only accurate in the most abstract reading of current regulations. To clarify, There are established altitude ranges for aircraft that operate within the New York Class B airspace – Hudson River and East River Exclusion Special Flight Rules Area (SFRA). These ranges allow for separation between transient operations and local operations and allow pilots the discretion to choose the safest altitude for their specific flight operation and environmental conditions. Additionally, local tour operations over New York.

City fly established flight routes that standardize pending flight paths, altitudes flown, and frequencies used by all aircraft. Because of these pre-established parameters and limits in New York’s airspace, there is less need for direct interaction by air traffic controllers, although it is available when operations dictate.

The proposed “Improving Helicopter Safety Act of 2019” is, in fact not an effort to improve the
safety of commuter, charter and tourism flights, but rather, an attempt to completely dismantle a
thriving industry. Under the Proposal, these flights would cease to exist, and our members would
lose their livelihoods.

“With an industry advancing in terms of both urban mobility and unmanned aircraft, these
politicians are looking back, not forward,” said Matt Zuccaro, president of HAI. “There is no one
more focused on safety than the helicopter pilots and operators themselves. These politicians’
draconian solution to the perceived threat of helicopters is to put an industry out of business. We
want to sit down and work in good faith to address the concerns of all stakeholders at the table.”

HAI seeks to re-establish the New York City helicopter task force to improve communications
and enhance partnerships amongst stakeholders. This task force will include elected officials,
community representatives, local operators, regulators, industry professionals and technical
safety experts. It is our hope that this taskforce will be able to develop solutions rooted in fact
that will continue to safeguard the citizens of New York, the operations of our members and
allay the concerns shared by Representatives Maloney, Nadler and Velazquez. In conjunction
with our partners at the Eastern Region Helicopter Council, HAI will be hosting a New York
Helicopter Operations Symposium on February 19, 2020.