View Full Version : Voyager, to go where no man has gone before.....
NutLoose
25th Sep 2019, 13:55
And to upset the green loveies...
Boris Johnson condemned for using private 335-seat jet for US trip: 'A fundamental lack of understanding'
Perhaps he should have travelled by Carbon Fibre Yacht, he would then have had an excuse to miss the re-opening of parliament. or picked up a few Thomas Cook paxs on the way back.. :E
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/boris-johnson-condemned-for-using-private-335-seat-jet-for-us-trip-a-fundamental-lack-of-understanding/ar-AAHP05t
MPN11
25th Sep 2019, 14:24
Meanwhile, President Trump ... oh, forget it, it’s pointless debating this! :)
BTW, regardless of that, I thought I heard the BBC say he landed at 04-something, which wouldn’t have been possible by CivAir given airport restrictions in UK.
Chris Kebab
25th Sep 2019, 14:51
...it was 1034 here on the BBC site on the mainland!
NutLoose
25th Sep 2019, 17:07
Yes, 1 hour before the 1st civi flight.
NutLoose
25th Sep 2019, 21:21
What struck me was how grubby the aircraft looked, especially around the doors, do they no longer clean them for VIP flights?
Union Jack
26th Sep 2019, 14:39
What struck me was how grubby the aircraft looked, especially around the doors, do they no longer clean them for VIP flights?
What struck me was the informality of the PM's arrival, not least with the one man greeting party saluting, without any visible acknowledgement, a rather dishevelled-looking figure with a hand in his pocket......
Jack
teeteringhead
27th Sep 2019, 10:25
a rather dishevelled-looking figure with a hand in his pocket......
Could have done with Maggie T's hairdresser too...
meleagertoo
27th Sep 2019, 11:21
On a point of order, that's the exact opposite of a "private " jet.
It's very obviously a public one, in th same way a corportion bus was a public bus.
Why on earth do we not have a flight of Gulfstreams or similar for this type of work?
Would it be legal for the RAF or any other air force to fly a 737max?
Dave Gittins
27th Sep 2019, 12:15
Why would they want to ? To practice for Poseidon ?
sorry, I typed that and thought I'd hit backspace and not submitted it.
sycamore
27th Sep 2019, 22:24
Why Gulfstreams...? Why not Falcon xxxc`s...?
sharpend
28th Sep 2019, 04:29
Why Gulfstreams...? Why not Falcon xxxc`s...?
That was tried when I was VVIP. Too small for pax. On those trips we took normally 80 - 100 people: crew (19) No 10 staff, press (who paid), officials, escort officer, security (to guard the jet on the ground) etc.
Why on earth do we not have a flight of Gulfstreams or similar for this type of work?
we we will have, that or something similar, when the CSAT replacement is chosen. It’ll be for exactly that sort of range and payload.
Buster Hyman
28th Sep 2019, 08:56
Making use of a multi purpose airframe. There is a precedent...
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/970x440/oc0nnmaqnb2skxjnsmna_a1a3f3590e21dba1a64df43e0a156e6f64606eb 6.jpg
Beamr
28th Sep 2019, 11:54
Would it be legal for the RAF or any other air force to fly a 737max?
there is a lot I dont know since not being a pilot, hence this raised my interest. Sorry if I am asking the obvious, but my understanding is that eg US military has its own airworthiness concept, and they are not required to follow FAA. So, IF the USAF had a MAX, would it be allowed to have that MAX in the air? Just hypothetically speaking.
Thank you for bearing my ignorance.
pr00ne
28th Sep 2019, 16:57
Beamr,
Even if that were the case, can you imagine the hue and cry if a US military operated example then crashed causing fatalities? Legally they would not have a leg to stand on. Could cost them a fortune.
Beamr
28th Sep 2019, 17:03
Beamr,
Even if that were the case, can you imagine the hue and cry if a US military operated example then crashed causing fatalities? Legally they would not have a leg to stand on. Could cost them a fortune.
I understand your point, but my question was entirely hypothetical. I never assumed it would really happen.