View Full Version : Landing short can ruin your day...
treadigraph
26th Aug 2019, 08:03
Gmunden Laarkirchen Airport on Friday...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=V9-u3pf154Y
Genghis the Engineer
26th Aug 2019, 10:07
Not so much that they landed short, as that they lost control of the aeroplane on touchdown.
Certainly a ruined day, no dispute on that point.
G
what next
26th Aug 2019, 10:18
That's probably the shortest landing in an AN-2 ever.
Cloudee
26th Aug 2019, 10:28
Not so much that they landed short, as that they lost control of the aeroplane on touchdown.
Certainly a ruined day, no dispute on that point.
G
Looking at the video it appears they lost control when he touched down short of the hard runway. It appears to hit the lip of the hard runway which takes off a wheel.
mikemmb
26th Aug 2019, 11:03
......but a cracking bit of parking!
clareprop
26th Aug 2019, 11:41
......but a cracking bit of parking!
Quite possibly, you owe me a new keyboard. :D
Pilot DAR
26th Aug 2019, 12:12
Yes, that does look like an undershoot. The approach appears to have been flown with precision, suggesting that an early touchdown was intended. Google Earth tells me that runway is 2000 feet long, so I can imagine a pilot focusing on preventing landing long. And, there appears to be quite an upslope to the end of 08 where the crash occurred. I've seen AN-2 operations into a shorter runway with no apparent difficulty, so it seems reasonable that the pilot planned to land there, it just didn't work out this time...
rog747
26th Aug 2019, 12:15
What a shame that is a lovely old example of the type there...
what next
26th Aug 2019, 12:39
This website shows some pictures of the accident including the concrete block in front of the threshold that ripped off the undercarriage: https://www.meinbezirk.at/salzkammergut/c-lokales/bruchlandung-der-legendaeren-antonov2-am-flugfeld-laakirchen_a3585414#gallery=default&pid=20718936 (https://www.meinbezirk.at/salzkammergut/c-lokales/bruchlandung-der-legendaeren-antonov2-am-flugfeld-laakirchen_a3585414#gallery=default&pid=20718936)
NB: The website of the airfield gives a landing distance of 550m for runway 08 which is plenty for that kind of aeroplane. No need at all to land before the piano keys.
NNB: The approach chart (this link is from the airfield website: http://www.fliegerclub-traunsee.at/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/lolu-Jeppesen.pdf) explicitely warns of "In front of both RWYs marked steep slopes".
ShyTorque
26th Aug 2019, 15:13
Oh no! Not the dreaded into wind landing....
Puts CFIT into an entirely new perspective...
piperboy84
26th Aug 2019, 20:48
I’ve got the same type and model but with 5.0 loader for more lift than the 3.0 version in those pics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPwrodxghrw
Islandlad
30th Aug 2019, 06:22
Not so much that they landed short, as that they lost control of the aeroplane on touchdown.
Certainly a ruined day, no dispute on that point.
G
first time I have read one of your posts and thought you have got it wrong
the first sentence anyway :)
Puts CFIT into an entirely new perspective...
we now have CFOT - a normal landing with an outcome the pilot had not intended or expected
mjh FE
2nd Sep 2019, 08:24
Not so normal landing imo. approach was flown a little too shallow angle. I witnessed another accident like that (Spanish AF Casa) with about identical path and result hitting short of runway uphill enbankment, damaging gear and other exitment as a result. That is not how to make a short precision landing.
-M-