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Captain Sherm
23rd Aug 2019, 22:48
30 years. Thanks to those who were truly comrades along the way, in hundreds of far away skies, and hundreds of far away cities. I was fortunate. Many were. I remember that. Some were not fortunate....and I remember that.

For those who once chose different paths. I hope that life has given you what you wanted. I bear no grudge. I withhold no forgiveness..

And tonight, the first toast will of course be that which aviators remember when they meet...."To absent friends"

Sui Generis

greybeard
24th Aug 2019, 01:08
We had quite a ride for the last 30 years, never regretted the move to quit and move on and on a few times

Established
25th Aug 2019, 00:46
Capt Sherm
I attended the get together in Melbourne yesterday. A great day catching up with friends and colleagues and for the first time wives, partners and former hosties were there.

Your words as quoted above were read to the group ( about 100 plus participated ) and received a rousing cheer. It certainly was a life changing event all those years ago.

Captain Sherm
25th Aug 2019, 02:41
Thanks....sorry I couldn't get there but with a few others shared those same thoughts last night.

MixmasterBilongJesus
25th Aug 2019, 07:09
#FIRSTWORLDPROBLEMS

Bend alot
25th Aug 2019, 07:47
#FIRSTWORLDPROBLEMS
The families of the pilots to the tourist operators of the Black Dog statistics.

They think it a little deeper and more personal over the months and years to follow their own 30 year time frame of this event.

C441
25th Aug 2019, 22:28
#FIRSTWORLDPROBLEMS
If you think that you probably weren't involved at the time……and I don't just mean as a pilot…….

Nice thoughts Sherm; from one who was close enough to know the personal stories and glad not to be one of them.

machtuk
25th Aug 2019, 23:39
"Lest we forget"
A time in Australia's aviation history that will fade as the years pass:-(

RIP.

Lookleft
26th Aug 2019, 00:24
Can we keep the phrase "Lest we Forget" in its rightful place, as part of the Ode during times of remembrance to fallen servicemen and woman.

redned
26th Aug 2019, 01:12
As the narcissistic collective bangs on about the glory days,i will reflect on those who lost their savings in tourist businesses in Darwin,Cairns and Hobart.You will reply so what,collateral damage only.There were suicides and divorces and some have never recovered.In that year the Baltic states stared down Russia,The Wall came down and Tiananmen Square occured i think the pilots strike appears more self indulgent 30 years on more than ever.

deja vu
26th Aug 2019, 07:13
As the narcissistic collective bangs on about the glory days,i will reflect on those who lost their savings in tourist businesses in Darwin,Cairns and Hobart.You will reply so what,collateral damage only.There were suicides and divorces and some have never recovered.In that year the Baltic states stared down Russia,The Wall came down and Tiananmen Square occured i think the pilots strike appears more self indulgent 30 years on more than ever.

For crying out loud It wasn't a strike. they quit. Maybe people shouldn't be allowed to quit?????

rockarpee
26th Aug 2019, 07:43
Time to grab the popcorn

neville_nobody
26th Aug 2019, 07:58
Yes if you are going to comment at least get your basic facts correct. There's plenty of information out there.:ugh:

gordonfvckingramsay
26th Aug 2019, 09:20
Close the thread mods.....goodness me!

Nice sentiments Sherm.

Dora-9
26th Aug 2019, 19:20
Nice sentiments Sherm.

I can but agree.

I just missed 1989 (lucky me) and thus watched events unfold from afar. I knew all the "players", my impression 30 years later is that a lot of the angst is still there, hence I found Sherm's words particularly wise.

tail wheel
26th Aug 2019, 21:56
Time to grab the popcorn.

Nope. Nothing to see here.

Any angst and this thread will instantly disappear. :=

LKinnon
26th Aug 2019, 23:20
Don't hear much about the 1989 Airline Pilot industrial action any more.

Wizofoz
26th Aug 2019, 23:26
For crying out loud It wasn't a strike. they quit. Maybe people shouldn't be allowed to quit?????

No-one stopped them quitting- THEY then whinged about others taking the job they quit from!

krismiler
27th Aug 2019, 02:00
Don't hear much about the 1989 Airline Pilot industrial action any more.

After 30 years, anyone involved who was above the age of 35 at the time will almost certainly be retired or passed away and the younger ones will be in their 50s. Most of my co pilots weren't even born or were in kindergarten in 1989. Bob Hawke, Peter Abeles now dead. Those directly involved or affected are fewer in number every year, it's slowly passing into history.

motley flight crue
27th Aug 2019, 03:05
Wiz, you sound suspiciously like ‘one’ that took a Job that suddenly became available!!!

Lookleft
27th Aug 2019, 03:17
Wiz, you sound suspiciously like ‘one’ that took a Job that suddenly became available!!!

Not so much of this then: For those who once chose different paths. I hope that life has given you what you wanted. I bear no grudge. I withhold no forgiveness..

30 years ago. If talk in the flight deck goes to that part of aviation history it is viewed as a historical oddity as most pilots today were too young or not even born.

Wizofoz
27th Aug 2019, 03:43
Wiz, you sound suspiciously like ‘one’ that took a Job that suddenly became available!!!

Yes. It was vacant. Your point?

motley flight crue
27th Aug 2019, 03:56
You just made my point Wiz, you saw no problem with it. Swoop after/during a disputed, what’s the word for that in any industry?

Senior Pilot
27th Aug 2019, 04:03
This thread has run its time: the ground rules are fairly plain https://www.pprune.org/australia-new-zealand-pacific/618762-1989-dispute-30th-anniversary-year-reunions.html