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Treble one
25th Jul 2019, 12:15
It appears there has been a mishap involving the PdF.
My French is a little rusty but it seems like the pilot ejected. Unaware as to his health status
Pictures/videos in the link.
https://www.lindependant.fr/2019/07/25/perpignan-un-avion-de-la-patrouille-de-france-fait-une-sortie-de-piste,8330603.php?fbclid=IwAR0IzErbofnQsMCz7qyUugZKLmRi1Q9Ik VPdcGH4pneP6pnFpriqYWJp8xU
SATCOS WHIPPING BOY
25th Jul 2019, 12:17
It appears there has been a mishap involving the PdF.
My French is a little rusty but it seems like the pilot ejected. Unaware as to his health status
Pictures/videos in the link.
https://www.lindependant.fr/2019/07/25/perpignan-un-avion-de-la-patrouille-de-france-fait-une-sortie-de-piste,8330603.php?fbclid=IwAR0IzErbofnQsMCz7qyUugZKLmRi1Q9Ik VPdcGH4pneP6pnFpriqYWJp8xU
This just popped up on my FB page. Seems he did eject but is injured according to The Express article (no indication as to severirity. Hopefully he will be OK
. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1157718/france-plane-crash-alphajet-Perpignan-Rivesaltes-airport-france-air-force
Fatjoff
25th Jul 2019, 12:42
"Vu qu'il n'y a pas de conflit depuis la deuxième guerre mondiale je ne vois pas l'utilité à payer ses super pilotes à s'amuser avec notre argent….."
Reading through the comments after the article, it seems the French public think the same of their aerobatic team as some of the Brits think of ours!
"Seeing as we've not had a conflict since WW2 I don't see the point of paying for ace pilots to enjoy themselves with our money..."
Glad the pilot got out.
wiggy
25th Jul 2019, 12:51
This just popped up on my FB page. Seems he did eject but is injured according to The Express article (no indication as to severirity. Hopefully he will be OK
. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1157718/france-plane-crash-alphajet-Perpignan-Rivesaltes-airport-france-air-force
According to a tweet from the local prefecture (local government HQ)..
"...Le pilote s'est éjecté et est légèrement blessé.
Il n'y a pas d'autres victimes."
"The pilot ejected and is slightly injured, there are no other victims".
atakacs
25th Jul 2019, 13:21
Quite short on specifics but it would seem from witnesses that he had some engine issue, did not manage to land and eventually ejected. On the other hand the plane seem in a relatively good shape after an actual crash!?
wiggy
25th Jul 2019, 14:20
the plane seem in a relatively good shape after an actual crash!?
The aircraft seems ( according to reports from the prefecture) to have stopped on the edge of the D177, which is the main road road that loops around three sides of the airport, passing under the extended centreline of both runway ends. Looking at the damage to the airframe and the flap setting I'd be thinking in terms of a runway overrun for some unspecified reason.....also some of the French language media reports describe the aircraft as "leaving the runway".
It might be worth bearing in mind that on some fast jet types fitted with "zero/zero" ejection seats the SOP certainly used to be to eject in the event of a runway excursion being imminent..
nipva
25th Jul 2019, 16:19
'un problème au niveau du train d'atterrissage droit au moment de l'atterrissage' = u/c problem at touchdown. Where it finished up suggests starboard undercarriage - pure conjecture on my part though.
piesupper
25th Jul 2019, 16:19
https://www.rt.com/news/465061-french-jet-crash-highway
No reports of injuries so far
piesupper
25th Jul 2019, 16:23
Seems very much in one piece despite the story suggesting the pilot ejected.
I'm sure more details will surface soon.
https://www.lindependant.fr/2019/07/25/perpignan-les-images-inedites-du-pilote-de-la-patrouille-de-france-ejecte-de-son-alphajet,8330937.php
wiggy
25th Jul 2019, 16:44
There was a thread on this topic up and running fairly soon after the accident ... more details if you follow the link..
https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/623914-patrouille-de-france-mishap.html
arketip
25th Jul 2019, 17:42
'un problème au niveau du train d'atterrissage droit au moment de l'atterrissage' = u/c problem at touchdown. Where it finished up suggests starboard undercarriage - pure conjecture on my part though.
Good guess ;-)
Their trusty steeds must be getting long in the tooth by now, comme Les Fleches Rouges.....
piesupper
25th Jul 2019, 19:26
There was a thread on this topic up and running fairly soon after the accident ... more details if you follow the link..
https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/623914-patrouille-de-france-mishap.html
THank you - Dunno how I missed that.....
Halfwayback
25th Jul 2019, 20:23
Both threads merged!
HWB
nipva
26th Jul 2019, 07:55
Arketip
It remains conjecture as 'droit' in this context means right as in exactly not right as in starboard. My surmise that it was the starboard leg is purely based on where it finished up.
Treble one
26th Jul 2019, 08:07
Seems very much in one piece despite the story suggesting the pilot ejected.
I'm sure more details will surface soon.
https://www.lindependant.fr/2019/07/25/perpignan-les-images-inedites-du-pilote-de-la-patrouille-de-france-ejecte-de-son-alphajet,8330937.php
piesupper-If my eyes dont deceive me there was a picture of the jet with a blown canopy and something telescopic protrudung skywards. I'm sure I've also seen a photo of said pilot being recovered from the undergrowth nearby with a parachute hanging over some bushes...
There was also talk of minor shoulder/back injuries to Athos 2
arketip
26th Jul 2019, 09:20
Arketip
It remains conjecture as 'droit' in this context means right as in exactly not right as in starboard. My surmise that it was the starboard leg is purely based on where it finished up.
No, sorry but 'droit' means 'right' as in 'not left'
nipva
26th Jul 2019, 10:26
Arketip
Of course droit means right but I read its other meaning in this context i.e precisely/exactly but you are probably right!
piesupper-If my eyes dont deceive me there was a picture of the jet with a blown canopy and something telescopic protrudung skywards.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/745x419/image_ad89fa3d15cd10b4512e0d4601d656c6e1bbeb6d.jpeg
atakacs
26th Jul 2019, 12:24
Is the alphajet capable of 0/0 ejection ?
Tashengurt
26th Jul 2019, 12:41
It might be worth bearing in mind that on some fast jet types fitted with "zero/zero" ejection seats the SOP certainly used to be to eject in the event of a runway excursion being imminent..
Wasn't that largely due to the risk of the nosewheel gear collapsing and the shock of that either partially firing the seat or damaging too badly to make any intentional ejection successful?
Life of Leisure
26th Jul 2019, 12:49
According to La Depeche du Midi (Toulouse paper) There were flames when the gear was lowered and brakes failed. The pilot ejected with the aircraft on the ground. He has light injuries to his shoulder and back and was taken to Perpignan hospital.
Treble one
26th Jul 2019, 14:10
Is the alphajet capable of 0/0 ejection ?
Apparently so-according to this.
MKF10LN | SMBF SAFRAN Martin Baker France (http://www.safran-martin-baker.com/en/content/mkf10ln)
Baron rouge
3rd Aug 2019, 20:17
Apparently so-according to this.
MKF10LN | SMBF SAFRAN Martin Baker France (http://www.safran-martin-baker.com/en/content/mkf10ln)
This A/C was fitted with a MK 10 seat only because it was flying with the PATROUILLE DE FRANCE.
Allthough the Alpha-jet was born at the same date as the HAWK it was fitted with a MK 4 seat and still is for all FTS using it.
only the patrouille de France, after they lost a few pilots who would have been saved with a MK 10 seat, is fitted with this MK 10 seat..
That to prouve how much french beancouters and Generals commanding the French Air Force price the lives of french pilots !
Wander00
4th Aug 2019, 14:22
Flying a six ship today, because I nearly broke my neck getting downstairs as I heard the noise that could only mean a formation at low level. Neighbour confirmed what I had missed. Drat