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ORAC
23rd Jul 2019, 06:43
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/23/south-korean-jets-fire-warning-shots-at-russian-planes-after-airspace-violation

South Korean jets fire warning shots at Russian plane after airspace violations

South Korean fighter jets have fired warning shots after a Russian military plane twice violated the country’s airspace, officials in Seoul said. Chinese military aircraft also entered South Korean airspace on Tuesday, first on their own and then with Russian planes, officials said.

The Russian bomber initially violated South Korea’s so-called aerial identification zone off its east coast for about three minutes shortly after 9am local time on Tuesday morning, the South’s defence ministry said. Officials said South Korean F-15k and F-16k jets were scrambled to intercept the plane and fired flares after sending a message to the aircraft.

The Russian plane left the area above disputed islands in the East sea but it returned and violated the airspace again, the ministry official said. He said the South Korean fighter jets fired warning shots again. The Russian plane did not return fire in either incident, the official said.

“The South Korean military took tactical action including dropping flares and firing a warning shot,” a defence ministry statement said.

It was the first time a Russian military plane violated South Korean airspace, according to South Korean officials. The encounter with the Russian plane occurred near the easternmost islets of Dokdo, disputed islands controlled by South Korea (https://www.theguardian.com/world/south-korea) but claimed by Japan, the military said.

Earlier in the day, two other Russian planes and two Chinese aircraft had entered the Korean air defence zone.

At around 6:44am local time two Chinese warplanes flew above the East sea and stayed for about 30 minutes, the South Korean news agency Yonhap reported (https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20190723005451325?section=national/defense). The Chinese aircraft later joined two Russian bombers and flew southward together over the East sea. The four encroached upon the defence zone at around 8:40am for a 25-minute flight, an officer from the Korean joint chiefs of staff told Yonhap.

Chinese planes have occasionally entered South Korea’s air defense identification zone in recent years. It was not known whether the two countries entered the air space deliberately.

South Korea’s defense ministry said it planned to summon Russian and Chinese embassy officials later on Tuesday to register formal protests.

Lyneham Lad
23rd Jul 2019, 09:13
“The South Korean military took tactical action including dropping flares and firing a warning shot,”

Fired warning shot how? Can't envisage a naval style 'warning shot across the bow'. Fly along side and let rip? :eek:

weemonkey
23rd Jul 2019, 10:47
Good job they weren't flying F35 or they might have accidentally shot it down!! :}

We need to take a wee step back though and consider the strategic ramifications of the Russian/Chinese hook up....

The AvgasDinosaur
23rd Jul 2019, 13:26
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We need to take a wee step back though and consider the strategic ramifications of the Russian/Chinese hook up....
Odd mix PLAAF H-6s and VVS TU-95s in a joint mission. New eastern detente ??
I also note that Kim Jong Un’s new Mercedes was delivered by Russian ship via a Chinese Port only recently!
Better relations between the comrades of the Far East can’t be good news.
Be lucky
David

Asturias56
23rd Jul 2019, 13:29
It's also a not so coded warning to the Japanese who also have a claim in the area

dead_pan
23rd Jul 2019, 16:01
Vietnam and China are also squaring up. Its all going a bit lychee-shaped in that part of the world

Lyneham Lad
23rd Jul 2019, 16:11
A report on the incident just published on The Times website.

South Korea fires hundreds of warning shots at Russian jet (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/south-korea-fires-warning-shots-at-russia-jets-following-airspace-violation-tg69q9b86?shareToken=eec063644a87c98bad0671b1d4dabe7a)

ORAC
23rd Jul 2019, 18:47
What were they going to do in response? Go to ramming speed?

South Korean jets fired ten flares and 80 machinegun rounds, the ministry of defence said, and the Russian plane left South Korean airspace after three minutes but then returned for four minutes. South Korea said that it then fired ten flares and 280 rounds........

According to the Russian defence ministry, South Korean aircraft carried out “unprofessional manoeuvres” in crossing the flight path of the Russian aircraft and “threatening their safety”.

“Two Tu-95 strategic bombers of Russia’s aerospace forces carried out a planned flight in the airspace above the neutral waters of the Sea of Japan,” the ministry said. “It was not the first time that South Korean pilots tried to unsuccessfully interfere with the flights of the Russian aviation forces above the neutral waters.”

It denied that any warning shots had been fired. “Had the Russian pilots felt under threat the response would not have been long in coming,” it added.

Lyneham Lad
16th Aug 2019, 13:07
China and Russia are trying to poke holes in the U.S.-Japan-South Korea security system,’ ex-official says (https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-russian-warplanes-test-u-s-patience-in-skies-near-south-korea-11565947805?shareToken=st728f87590f0243f7b5515229edb66d38)

Lengthy article in today's WSJ.

A_Van
17th Aug 2019, 06:52
China and Russia are trying to poke holes in the U.S.-Japan-South Korea security system,’ ex-official says (https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-russian-warplanes-test-u-s-patience-in-skies-near-south-korea-11565947805?shareToken=st728f87590f0243f7b5515229edb66d38)

Lengthy article in today's WSJ.

A very shallow "analysis" attempting to escalate the issue.
First, the author (probably intentionally) does not use the common term "air defense identification zone" and shorterns it to just "air defense" zone that may leave common readers with a feeling that somebody (here, China and Russia) breaches some border, while it is not true. "You need to identify? OK, no problem - here am I, and I fly freely".

Second, even "air defense identification zone" is somewhat vague and not recognized or regulated internationally.
E.g., "The concept of an ADIZ is not defined in any international treaty and is not regulated by any international body" - source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_defense_identification_zone

So, "much ado about nothing", as usual.