Antonov AN 24 Kazakhstan

[UKK]

Hi, I would like your opinion on the safety of this aircraft. A group of us are working in a small city in Kazakhstan. Usually we travel by Air Astana are happy with this airline but the airport is partially closed for 6 months as they are redoing the runway. Air Astana will not be flying but instead SCAT Airlines which have a bad reputation are flying to Astana 4 times a day with Antonov AN 24 planes. All my colleagues are planning to take a 13 hour train ride rather than fly on this plane.

I would like to know if you would travel on this plane?

Thanks in advance

[Cymmon]

Yes I would fly. I've been on many Antonov 24's. The pilots want to go home so only fly if they think it's safe.

[N707ZS]

At least its not a 737 max, now would you fly on that.

Another passengers experience.

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1373287

[Harry Wayfarers]

I have flown on plenty of AN24's with no incidents to report but airliners are supposed to be able tpo perform safely even in the event of an engine being shut down, how true it is or not but what I did here is that the AN24 doesn't perform so well with an engine shut down.

Now if the airline, rather than the qaircraft, have a bad reputation then that is a whole different ball park.

[Pistonprop]

From what I can ascertain, their last fatal accident was in 2013. It was wearher related (fog) and involved one of their western built aircraft, the Canadair CRJ-200. They have had other (minor) incidents since but then so have most of the so-called safer major western European carriers!

[DaveReidUK]

The pilots want to go home so only fly if they think it's safe.

As our mathematical colleagues would say, that's a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for a safe flight. :O

[UKK]

SCAT are a Kazakh airline that are not allowed to fly into the EU but do fly to Turkey. Their prices are low and have poor customer service. They fly Antonio’s and some years ago, one of their planes crashed just outside Almaty airport.

so Antonio’s are fairly safe but it depends on the airline?

[Hotel Tango]

Actually UKK, the aircraft that crashed was a western type as mentioned above. These days they fly mainly Boeing 737, Boeing 757 and Canadair CRJ Regional Jets. I can't find any evidence that they still operate Antonov 24s, unless they lease them from another airline.

[Hartington]

Anyone know the safety level for that 13 hour train journey?

[UKK]

The trains are slow and I have never heard of any accidents.

[UKK]

My selection22 Jun, Sa06:50KostanayDV-7271 h 30 min22 Jun, Sa08:20Nur-SultanNursultan NazarbayevFlight performs Airline SCAT ANTONOV AN-241 adult
22 575 ₸Fare19 000 ₸Taxes3 575 ₸Total22 575 ₸

[WingNut60]

Not like this though ?


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/448x336/_4a_c01185d29dc0c9fd21aa12f6095a679d3559d326.jpg

Note the FO checking the nose wheel

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x742/_3a_1024x742__b37f95ed8259b746fcaa5dcd5ccafafa0a3d2f09.jpg

PS I have driven from Kostanay back down to Astana - if it's safety that you're after then catch the train

[DaveReidUK]

I can't find any evidence that they still operate Antonov 24s, unless they lease them from another airline.

There are a few recent-ish photos of their An-24Bs and An-24RVs on the net, at least up to a couple of years ago.

[Hotel Tango]

There are a few recent-ish photos of their An-24Bs and An-24RVs on the net, at least up to a couple of years ago.

Indeed, yet I can't find them in any of the fleet lists! Perhaps a subsidiary?

[Harry Wayfarers]

Indeed, yet I can't find them in any of the fleet lists! Perhaps a subsidiary?

We're not allowed to post commercial links but if one googles for 'SCAT Airlines AN24' then top of the results is an AN24 page on SCAT's website yet in their aircraft types drop down menu there is no mention of AN24

[N707ZS]

If you read my insert it tells you: Southern Skies Airline operates for SCAT's. Airlines

[Hotel Tango]

Well, there you go, that's that sorted :)

[Hotel Tango]

Southern Sky Airlines is the regional subsidiary of SCAT Airlines (SCAT Air Company). The carrier is based at Taraz Airport and operates services throughout Kazakhstan utilising Antonov and Yak equipment.

Courtesy of CAPA

[UKK]

But is it safe?

[DaveReidUK]

If you read my insert it tells you: Southern Skies Airline operates for SCAT's Airlines

And confusingly, some of the AN-24Bs (those with the blue/white stripped rudder) carry "Oнтустик Аспаны" titles, which Google translates as "Oyster Ascension". Go figure.

[WHBM]

You'll be fine with them, my own experiences in Kazakhstan were that the various operators keep their old Soviet stock in good order, and crew and maintenance know what they are doing with them - the personnel are commonly high time and knew the equivalent types from air force days. SCAT have been around for quite some years now on various secondary operations which either add to or compete with Air Astana (the latter owned 50-50 by the Kazakh government and British Aerospace). The pictures above are of the equivalent Antonov 26 freighter. I'm guessing you are in Kostanay and from what you describe the Antonov will be landing on the parallel former military strip alongside the main runway.

The Antonov 24 is a good old Soviet workhorse, you actually find them at places around Western Europe nowadays operating for various freight package companies. They can regularly be heard transiting over London.

[UKK]

I flew on the Antanov yesterday and it was fine.

[SpringHeeledJack]

What was the cabin noise like in comparison to other western counterparts ? Glad that you arrived safely after your reservations (in both senses).

[UKK]

It was a bit noisy but it was quite comfortable. Landing was a bit more bumpy but still I am really impressed with how easy it all was.