easyJet taxation

[BarryMG]

I would like to know how is the salary in easy taxed, for example on italian contract. When I punch in the the supposed "average" gross salary (judging by PPJN and EZ job adverts for FO/SFO, in the region of €70-80k gross) into online tax calculators, I end up with a figure of €3,500-4,000 net/month. That's not that much, however I potentially see a flaw in my reasoning that maybe some parts of the salary are taxed differently (lower) than others, and that results in a higher net figure? Could anyone enlighten me? How's it in another countries in the network?

[FlightDetent]

I came to believe that full proper taxation across EU, for a high earning bracket like this, is in the range of 38 - 45 %.

Your numbers give 40% exactly. As much as it is a piece of bad news, looking for a different tax calculator might not be the solution.

[CaptainProp]

Italian based SFOs are taking home close to €6000 / month on busy months, closer to €5k on slower months. I know a few personally and info coming directly from them. On italian contracts the fixed basic is lower, as its taxed higher, while there’s a higher fixed, plus variable, flight allowance and this is taxed lower. This is at least how I understood it.

CP

[EcamSurprise]

The above sounds about right with what i've heard too.

The German headline basic also looks a bit 'low' but you also receive your 16% shift allowance on top. Plus then loyalty pay monthly, sector and other variables.

[dirk85]

Italian based SFOs are taking home close to €6000 / month on busy months, closer to €5k on slower months. I know a few personally and info coming directly from them. On italian contracts the fixed basic is lower, as its taxed higher, while there’s a higher fixed, plus variable, flight allowance and this is taxed lower. This is at least how I understood it.

CP


Correct. FOs net salary is a tad more than 5k on average over 12 months, and roughly 6k as an SFO, depending a bit on your tax deductions, but not much variance. Plus some kind of private pension, on top of the state one. The last few years the average was between 600 and 650 hours flown, but many sectors. Captains fly a bit more.
It takes 2 years to become SFO in Italy, even if you have 20k hours, you cannot join straight on that rank.

Taxation would be difficult to explain in detail, but CaptainProp gives a good idea.

[EPST]

As stated above, takehome pay per rank is roughly:
SO: €4200
FO: €5000
SFO: close to €6000
All of these are nett per month.

Reason for the high net pay compared to (not extremely high) gross, is the way the salary is taxed.
Basic pay is relatively low but taxed at ~40%. On top of that you receive sectorpay and so called "diaria" which is a daily allowance. These elements are tax free, thus the "overall taxation" is ~22%.

Also you receive a performance bonus (depending on company performance) and loyalty bonus (when eligible). And when operating > 35 sectors, the sectorpay from the 36th sector onwards is doubled.

[BarryMG]

Thanks very much, that clears things up!

[McMax]

Can anyone shed some light on how the actual net for SO/FO/SFO/Cpt on a German contract looks like, please?

Thanks in advance.

[TheAirMission]

Can anyone shed some light on how the actual net for SO/FO/SFO/Cpt on a German contract looks like, please?

Thanks in advance.

SO - 2,700
FO - 3700-4,000
SFO - 5,000 -5,500
CPT - 7,500-9,500 depending on marriage status kids etc..

[Bubair]

As stated above, takehome pay per rank is roughly:
SO: €4200
FO: €5000
SFO: close to €6000
All of these are nett per month.

Reason for the high net pay compared to (not extremely high) gross, is the way the salary is taxed.
Basic pay is relatively low but taxed at ~40%. On top of that you receive sectorpay and so called "diaria" which is a daily allowance. These elements are tax free, thus the "overall taxation" is ~22%.

Also you receive a performance bonus (depending on company performance) and loyalty bonus (when eligible). And when operating > 35 sectors, the sectorpay from the 36th sector onwards is doubled.

EPST: Sector pay on the Italian contract is NOT tax free but taxed for 50% of its amount since it is a “flight allowance”...

[McMax]

SO - 2,700
FO - 3700-4,000
SFO - 5,000 -5,500
CPT - 7,500-9,500 depending on marriage status kids etc..


Thank you very much.

[EDDT]

The easyJet contracts in Germany are acceptable for
– becoming a Captain quick
- no overnights or layovers
- no jetlag
- flying a handful of destinations with the same aircraft type
- work from comfortable, small airports

[benty]

The easyJet contracts in Germany are acceptable for
– becoming a Captain quick
- no overnights or layovers
- no jetlag
- flying a handful of destinations with the same aircraft type
- work from comfortable, small airports

I've heard that in TXL there are around 10 overnights a month. I'll be based there soon, can anyone confirm this?

Thank you

[McMax]

The easyJet contracts in Germany are acceptable for
– becoming a Captain quick
- no overnights or layovers
- no jetlag
- flying a handful of destinations with the same aircraft type
- work from comfortable, small airports

and not acceptable for...? ;)
Would love a base somewhere further south/south west in Germany...

[Denti]

I've heard that in TXL there are around 10 overnights a month. I'll be based there soon, can anyone confirm this?

Thank you

Overnights are dropping from 7 per day to 4 per day in June. Additionally two aircraft will be replaced by two wetlease aircraft which means that pilots are not flying all that much over the summer (between 30 and 45 hours in june for many), however, they have a lot of standby. Preferential bidding allows to bid for no overnights, which works very well indeed, as there are quite a few who shuttle anyway and prefer to fly overnight duties. Not more than one night away in a row is planned though except for training duties.

[benty]

Overnights are dropping from 7 per day to 4 per day in June. Additionally two aircraft will be replaced by two wetlease aircraft which means that pilots are not flying all that much over the summer (between 30 and 45 hours in june for many), however, they have a lot of standby. Preferential bidding allows to bid for no overnights, which works very well indeed, as there are quite a few who shuttle anyway and prefer to fly overnight duties. Not more than one night away in a row is planned though except for training duties.

Thank you :)

[tomelam]

Does anyone have any information about easyJet's SO and FO pay in Spain?

[BarryMG]

Also, any figures for Portugal? Just got an email from EZY advising available bases to join in early 2020, Porto is among them - I know a long time ago the contract was poor, but how is it now? What's the average net pay for FO/SFO (CP as well if you know)?

[C212-100]

Also, any figures for Portugal? Just got an email from EZY advising available bases to join in early 2020, Porto is among them - I know a long time ago the contract was poor, but how is it now? What's the average net pay for FO/SFO (CP as well if you know)?

CPT pay is around 5500€-6300€; SFO pay around 4000-4500€ net per month on a normal month (dependent on amount of sectors flown and its length).
To be multiplied by 14 as you will get a double month in June and another in November.

Additionally Performance Bonus is between 10 and 20% of you basic annual pay. Paid in December. Last years’ performance originated 17,5% Bonus to every pilot on a Portuguese base.

Portuguese contracts aren’t the greatest in the network but I wouldn’t define them as poor. On the other hand, taxation in Portugal is unbelievable.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
C

[dirk85]

Also, any figures for Portugal? Just got an email from EZY advising available bases to join in early 2020, Porto is among them - I know a long time ago the contract was poor, but how is it now? What's the average net pay for FO/SFO (CP as well if you know)?

I am curious, which other bases were on offer?

[samca]

Are they taking Captains? If not when it supposed to open again for DEC?
thanks

[a350pilots]

What are the net figures in Portugal?

[dirk85]

What are the net figures in Portugal?

How about reading 2 posts above?

[C212-100]

How about reading 2 posts above?

My thoughts exactly.

[tomuchwork]

DEC(NTR) Captains? Still just Portugal and Spain? Germany? Or is TXL(or do they use Schönefeld, or both) full already? I assume still no way to have a italian base right away? Just to know if I even need to bother to re-apply(never went to any dates this year till they closed shop end of May). Thank you!

[dirk85]

Chances of italian bases nil for the moment. At least MXP/VCE. Also NAP with a waiting list now.

[BarryMG]

For FOs they expect openings in MXP, NAP, TXL, OPO and PMI

[737 Jockey]

Sadly, no DEC openings for the foreseeable future. No current recruitment, hold pool full and command upgrade courses being cancelled. Shortage of FO’s due to legacy carrier recruitment.

[tomuchwork]

Thanks for your feedback gents. No worries, I am on a similar "gig", just an oldtimer aircraft of the mid last century and a harp on the tail. At least got MY base and country of preference, so no real big rush for me to change to orange. Especially I turned them down this season because they had this very limited base availablities. Was simply no reason to change for me.

@dirk MXP and VCE are exactly the only bases of interest for me. Was flying a while out of NAP(in a different life long ago) - brrr. No thanks. Pilots still get threated by pax that they would wait outside once you come back if you offload them for unpolite behaviour? And if you call the Police they would tell you the same - we can't protect you when you come back this evening. Better(!!) you take him with you, less trouble for you and us.... LOVELY place :} .

Seems I will stay a while longer "blue" which is fine. Threatment here is as it was always(getting warning letters for being certified sick), only big reason really why I would prefer "orange". But not in a base that I do not want.

All the best gentlemen(and ladies of course, especially in "orange" ;) ).

[Almag]

Also, any figures for Portugal? Just got an email from EZY advising available bases to join in early 2020, Porto is among them - I know a long time ago the contract was poor, but how is it now? What's the average net pay for FO/SFO (CP as well if you know)?

Update from the Talent Pool received last week, only OPO available for DEC from beginning of 2020 and 1 week to decide... ANY info on OPO base would be highly appreciated.
1) Approximate salary after tax for a DEC with family... (less than 6000 euro Net seems to be very low TBH)
2) If it is possible to receive Non-Habitual Resident status as an easyJet Captain under the Portuguese tax laws, coming form outside EU (more than 10 years)
3) Living in Porto, as it seems to be a beautiful historic city
4) And why it is so unpopular that EZY can't seem to crew it, even after the revised salary package.....

Thanks in advance!

[dirk85]

The only problem is taxation.
The package overall in portugal is not bad now, but taxes and the 2 years base freeze if you are not rated as a dec makes it not popular.
6000 net with family is probably low, you would end up with more (you have 14 salaries a year in portugal).
Check an online tax calculator, as I am assuming you have the gross figures?

[MD320]

The informations you received are not totally corrects.
After the payment of the social (pension and some others around 11% on the employee side) the income taxation vary from 23 to 43 ( above 75k ) with some detractions.
The basic salary is taxable (social and income tax) for the 100% of its amount. The guarantee Flight Allowance that is also part of the salary is taxable (social and income tax ) only for the 50% of its amount. In other words 50% of it is Net.