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ACMS
15th May 2019, 11:03
ok now I’m really surprised this hasn’t been raised in here before this.........

Apparently the first time a wide body Jet ( A330 ) has landed in Broome? ( didn’t CX take an A340 in there a number of years ago or was that Port Hedland?? )

https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/qantas-bali-flight-diverts-to-broome-after-electrical-fault-ng-b881198138z


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/qantas-jet-diverted-to-broome-after-electrical-fault/news-story/7e5b1e2ea4466587e9534739ac256433


Edited......oops sorry Capn Bloggs

BuzzBox
15th May 2019, 12:05
...didn’t CX take an A340 in there a number of years ago or was that Port Hedland??


The CX A340 diverted to Port Hedland.

angryrat
15th May 2019, 12:49
Interesting. Been on a number(unsure if it was the same aircraft or different aircraft) of 330ís lately that have had cabin lighting issues. Lights have come on uncommanded to full bright and the FAP has reset.

dragon man
15th May 2019, 21:34
I believe it was electrical and the cabin lights were actually flashing on and off.

topend3
16th May 2019, 02:53
disco plane. According to Flight Aware it's still in BME.

Dee Vee
16th May 2019, 03:01
disco plane. According to Flight Aware it's still in BME.

Must be the military lighting up their high power radar again... :sad:

At least it was only the lights this time!

dragon man
16th May 2019, 04:07
One generator, numerous messages, aural warnings that couldn’t be silenced and lastly no auto pilots. Not nice.

Fwh
16th May 2019, 04:13
Interesting, how long is it going to be kept there?

ACMS
16th May 2019, 05:36
Since I made the original post I’ve heard some little info basically what was said above.
Failure of ECMU 2 in a big way that took out a lot of AC and DC busses.

Well handled as you’d expect from the boys and girls at QF..

Capn Bloggs
16th May 2019, 06:39
and lastly no auto pilots.
What, no FO?

morno
16th May 2019, 06:46
Well handled as youíd expect from the boys and girls at QF..

As Iím sure many other crews from around the world could handle as well.

Buster Hyman
16th May 2019, 07:04
Must be the military lighting up their high power radar again... :sad:
Is that the Chinese military you mean? According to Palmers UAP ads... :rolleyes:

machtuk
16th May 2019, 07:41
The SkyGods have yet again done well:-):D

dragon man
16th May 2019, 08:02
Since I made the original post Iíve heard some little info basically what was said above.
Failure of ECMU 2 in a big way that took out a lot of AC and DC busses.

Well handled as youíd expect from the boys and girls at QF..

I donít fly airbus and would appreciate some factual observations without snide comments about the seriousness of this. Thanks

ACMS
16th May 2019, 08:12
The info I have which is basic,

ECMU 2 failed, AC and DC busses went offline, lights flashed, ECAM’s cautioned, APU’s wouldn’t start, resets didn’t help, A/P wouldn’t work, many issues apparently that shouldn’t have happened with just an ECMU 2 fail.

ECMU:- Electrical contactor and management unit.

I can’t tell you anymore details I’m sorry as I don’t know, the crew faced a serious situation at midnight half way into their flight, then they landed successfully.

Morno......I don’t work for QF and I’m sure we would all equally handle the situation.
Why can’t I congratulate them on a successful outcome?

Mr Leslie Chow
16th May 2019, 10:24
Because ACMS in this day and age we must all pander to acknowledging that everyone is equal and if someone broadcasts a respectful comment to one ‘party’ that indicates bias and favouritism and further shows you are marginalising all others.

We are are all equal in every single regard and those of us that are thin skinned will rise up and declare “hey you can’t say that”!

FFS morno, give yourself an uppercut



On another point ACMS you can say whatever you like. Im sure the crew involved would appreciate the compliment.

Rated De
16th May 2019, 10:39
On another point ACMS you can say whatever you like. Im sure the crew involved would appreciate the compliment.

Precisely.

Broome at night in an A330 is not an exercise one undertakes for amusement.

morno
16th May 2019, 11:38
Morno......I donít work for QF and Iím sure we would all equally handle the situation.
Why canít I congratulate them on a successful outcome?

I never said you couldnít. Iím sure they did a good job. Iím just not sure why we expect QF to be any better than anyone else.

spleener
16th May 2019, 12:31
Itís been a while since I flew a bus.......
But, from memory thatís a BIG ecam checklist and potential (no pun) issue. Well done to the crew.

angryrat
16th May 2019, 12:56
What, no FO?
Lost his display units, no PFD. Down to one PRIM and SEC :eek:

Nice job lads :D

Camara
16th May 2019, 13:31
Disclaimer: Long time observer and not a pilot, first post.
I was wondering how long it would take to surface on here.
When they arrived early the other morning it sure as hell woke me up with a bang in Broome . A quick look on flight radar showed an A330 in a place it shouldnít be . The track, altitude and speed graph was not the normal for an arrival into Broome to say the least .They spent quite a fair bit of time at the end of the runway stationary before taxiing off and parking up near the CHC hangar . It would be interesting to have seen the brakes after that landing. Itís been moved in the last day and is definitely a big bird for Broome . I take my hat off to the guys/girls on the flight deck for doing an awesome job and getting it down in one piece in some ass puckering conditions. I canít wait to see it depart.

dragon man
17th May 2019, 02:39
https://www.smh.com.au/national/i-ve-become-very-isolated-the-aftermath-of-near-doomed-qf72-20190514-p51n7q.html

Gin Jockey
17th May 2019, 02:40
It would be interesting to have seen the brakes after that landing.



Broome longer than runway 27 in melbourne, which A330s use everyday.

Rated De
17th May 2019, 03:18
Broome longer than runway 27 in melbourne, which A330s use everyday.

That may be the case, but given the urgency present here, it is highly likely the landing weight would have been significantly higher than landing at the end of planned flight.

Tankengine
17th May 2019, 04:40
That may be the case, but given the urgency present here, it is highly likely the landing weight would have been significantly higher than landing at the end of planned flight.
Possibly at higher speed depending on failures too.

KRviator
17th May 2019, 06:23
https://www.smh.com.au/national/i-ve-become-very-isolated-the-aftermath-of-near-doomed-qf72-20190514-p51n7q.htmlThat's a much better read than that tripe from another QF Captain...

maggot
17th May 2019, 08:42
Possibly at higher speed depending on failures too.
Oui
FCCs out and flight controls degrade... Spoilers etc

Capt Basil Brush
17th May 2019, 12:35
Are there any suitable taxiways or parking bays suitable for widebody wingspans or weights in Broome? Just curious, as an emergency landing will override this. I haven’t been there for years, but we used to have weight limits there for a 737-800.

Where did it park?

Dawn Patrol
17th May 2019, 21:35
Where did it park?


Northern apron. Just off/kind of on Charlie.

megan
18th May 2019, 00:31
The departure brought out the natives. Credit Ashley James Munn



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maggot
18th May 2019, 01:51
Are there any suitable taxiways or parking bays suitable for widebody wingspans or weights in Broome? Just curious, as an emergency landing will override this. I havenít been there for years, but we used to have weight limits there for a 737-800.

Where did it park?

Yes and at a guess they'd be a little over
738 has higher psi so being lighter it can still have issues vs a bogey'd

wombat watcher
18th May 2019, 23:43
Qantas B767s have been in there half a dozen times for an overnight.

werbil
24th May 2019, 12:53
Are there any suitable taxiways or parking bays suitable for widebody wingspans or weights in Broome?

Considering it was towed onto the runway with multiple observers prior to engine start, and required a guide for the turn around at the beginning of the runway I'd say not for wheel track. The taxi and take off procedure effectively closed the airport for the best part of half an hour. Advise to inbound aircraft - hold time unknown - advise latest divert time.

Given that the whole town seemed to know of the departure time in advance a NOTAM would have been nice.