View Full Version : Looking for someone flying the Helionix system
LNRalph
30th Apr 2019, 09:07
I'm looking for someone flying the Helionix system with synthetic vision, like this (https://assets.verticalmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Helionix-DN.jpg). We are working on a replica of synthetic vision for flight simulation. The 'problem' we have is that we're not sure what happens to the 'wireframe' when you flight at high altitude. If you let the size stay the same then this happens:
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x1024/img_20190430_wa0001_cb7c56e77554b24cb5fa22ffad68c286dc02eae0 .jpg
So we're wondering. Does it disappear at a certain altitude? Or maybe it doesn't become smaller anymore at a certain altitude? Hopefully there's someone who has experience with this. I just fly a simple R44 :sad:
FloaterNorthWest
30th Apr 2019, 11:03
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1200x1600/86c71691_f24b_4c5f_ade6_bbaac8c31459_a794bb9b52cd77886bd2ad7 ae1f7fdeb85bebf07.jpeg
SVS 2 at 3500ft
LNRalph,
It stops getting any smaller as altitude increases. I’m not sure at what height this happens.
FNW.
Flying Bull
30th Apr 2019, 12:13
Well, I can have a try next time - but actually I really don’t use synthetic vision ....
Not much mountains around here and for the smaller ones, I use the MFD1 with Nav Display and HTWAS overlay to find my ways through the valleys, if the overcast prevents me from flying over the ridges...
LNRalph
30th Apr 2019, 14:04
FloaterNorthWest Thank you, that was what I expected. We're actually working on the Aspen Evolution 2000, the Helionix will come in the picture next year. We'll have to find out by then. Thanks for your help!
Flying Bull It is hard to find people that really use it :) And then you have to find someone who flies at such an altitude that this becomes a thing.
FloaterNorthWest
30th Apr 2019, 15:24
Flying Bull,
You should try it in poor weather on an approach. It helps with situational awareness as you drop out of the cloud in poor visibility.
FNW
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1223x1602/c76815c7_5604_4a6e_afef_4856f9d003e3_6ce501bbf2c326e45cddb5d ad4640b982d1e0d36.jpeg
Automatic level off after a LPV approach.
Flying Bull
30th Apr 2019, 20:29
Flying Bull,
You should try it in poor weather on an approach. It helps with situational awareness as you drop out of the cloud in poor visibility.
FNW
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1223x1602/c76815c7_5604_4a6e_afef_4856f9d003e3_6ce501bbf2c326e45cddb5d ad4640b982d1e0d36.jpeg
Automatic level off after a LPV approach.
May be, you should close the door doing LPV approaches ;-)
I just prefer only necessary information in front of me.
The difference between the angledisplay noseup/nosedown to the normal display also irretates, if you don´t use synthetic vision on a regular basis.
Last, I don´t like the detaillevel - more, the lack of it. If I have to guess i.e., which waterway is displayed, I rather have nothing to guess about.
LNRalph
1st May 2019, 12:04
FloaterNorthWest Do you have a rough idea of when it stops 'shrinking'? And how small it becomes? The picture you posted for example, at 3500 feet, is that about as small as it gets?
hueyracer
1st May 2019, 19:06
Upper left corner:
Is this a requirement that a fork always points into the direction of the next restaurant?
:D
Flying Bull
1st May 2019, 19:43
Upper left corner:
Is this a requirement that a fork always points into the direction of the next restaurant?
:D
Well, I can understand your impression - was my first thought also.
But it represents actually three neddles, which, when everything is ok, look like a fork.
The "handle" of the fork is actually Nr
the "outer spikes" N2 Engine 2
the "inner spike" with a triangle N2 Engine 1
So its actually the the tripple indicator, which gives you clues which engine might be misbehaving and in which way (overspeed / underspeed / failure) ;-)
LNRalph
1st May 2019, 20:46
We're getting somewhere... This is the Dutch coast by the way :Ehttps://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1600x1600/img_20190501_wa0002_4c8f6215de4fd9b8e0f3f5843f12ba0a420ed40d .jpg
The Dutch coast, it seems to be a really nice spot for climbing!
Flying Bull
2nd May 2019, 11:29
Well, switched on last night, but didn’t went higher than 1500 ft ground.
Showed a little river , but not the town it goes through...
and approaching my homebase, I didn’t saw the runway as in your picture. Ok, I came in - like helicopters do most time - directly - but no clue on the display....
FloaterNorthWest
2nd May 2019, 12:16
Flying Bull,
What software version of HLX is on your 145?
FNW
Self loading bear
2nd May 2019, 13:25
The Dutch coast, it seems to be a really nice spot for climbing!
That must be the Euromast in Rotterdam.
Or the flight Path is incredibly low.
212man
2nd May 2019, 14:40
Flying Bull,
You should try it in poor weather on an approach. It helps with situational awareness as you drop out of the cloud in poor visibility.
FNW
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1223x1602/c76815c7_5604_4a6e_afef_4856f9d003e3_6ce501bbf2c326e45cddb5d ad4640b982d1e0d36.jpeg
Automatic level off after a LPV approach.
Any reasoning the DH to a value?
FloaterNorthWest
2nd May 2019, 17:28
212 man,
Do you mean the DH being set to zero?
The DH wasn’t set as the flight was flown as a demonstration of the aircraft capability in VMC.
FNW.
FloaterNorthWest
2nd May 2019, 17:58
LNRalph,
I think the grid is controlled by the rad alt. The size seems to stay fixed once above the rad alt operating height (2200ft agl). The grid squares are 0.2nm and extend out to 4nm.
FNW.
212man
2nd May 2019, 19:55
212 man,
Do you mean the DH being set to zero?
The DH wasn’t set as the flight was flown as a demonstration of the aircraft capability in VMC.
FNW.
yes - didn’t notice my reply got the autocorrect treatment! Makes sense.
Flying Bull,
What software version of HLX is on your 145?
FNW
Indeed, depending of the software version, the runways and helipads are better defined. As far as I remember the grid on the ground is less blurry as well.
Flying Bull
3rd May 2019, 13:00
Version D462C030504 (Step 2.0.3)
Should be fairly actual ;-)
Version D462C030504 (Step 2.0.3)
Should be fairly actual ;-)
I have no access to the SW detail, however, I think they have done a recent SW upgrade with the "step 3" according to their website.
I am not allowed to put a link, however if you look for the article: "Competitive boost and enhanced operational capabilities for H145"
Flying Bull
3rd May 2019, 13:51
I have no access to the SW detail, however, I think they have done a recent SW upgrade with the "step 3" according to their website.
I am not allowed to put a link, however if you look for the article: "Competitive boost and enhanced operational capabilities for H145"
As with software updates - even in aeronautics - its sometimes wise to check first on one or two machines before using it on the whole fleet ;-)
FloaterNorthWest
3rd May 2019, 14:08
Flying Bull,
If on Step 2.0.3 you won’t have SVS 2 and it’s cultural database so won’t get runways, helipads, etc and improved graphics.
Step 3 is fully certified and tested after installation to an airframe so no reason to roll it out onto the whole fleet.
Its better than having a mixed fleet were pilots have to work out which airframe has which software version.
FNW
Flying Bull
11th May 2019, 20:45
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1640x2000/1ef61984_5128_49e2_bac7_fc2d6b43ead5_335abfde5a3f9fdba2c3d5f 1a46edc42a4f8fdd8.jpeg
HELIONIX above 3.000ft grd
I had a go exceeding the RadAlt Range, SVS display was still displaying ��