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HEMS driver
10th Apr 2019, 21:42
Please, tell me this isn't true? If so, the world has really gone mad, even down under.


10th Apr 2019, 22:40
Has Breitbart ever posted anything factual?

11th Apr 2019, 00:31
Has Breitbart ever posted anything factual?

In this case it would appear they have.

2GB Interview (https://www.2gb.com/raaf-pilots-told-to-consider-gender-perspective-before-dropping-bombs/)

11th Apr 2019, 00:40
No dawn service for Navy because it is too risky in the dark

ABC Illawarra (https://www.abc.net.au/illawarra/)

By Melinda James, Ainslie Drewitt-Smith (https://www.abc.net.au/news/ainslie-drewitt-smith/9715556) and Kelly Fuller (https://www.abc.net.au/news/kelly-fuller/9938892)

A New South Wales Returned Services League sub-branch on the south coast says it is "beyond belief" that Navy personnel have been told they cannot march at the ANZAC Day dawn service in Nowra because it is too risky in the dark.

Personnel from the local naval base have been marching at the Greenwell Point service for 30 years.

Nowra RSL sub-branch president Fred Dawson said he was advised by officers from HMAS Albatross that the Navy this year decided to pull out of the commitment to mitigate the risk to personnel.

"It's beyond belief, we are talking about armed forces, men trained to fight and look after themselves in very risky circumstances, marching down Greenwell Point Road under street lights has minimal risk factors involved," he said.

"So from my perspective, sailors will be on parade in the nearby park waiting for the diggers to arrive, schools children will also be marching in the dark, but not serving personnel."

Mr Dawson said he understands individual serving members want to march.

"This is not to do with the local sailors, they would want to march, this is some bureaucrat in Canberra, some civilian has said, the risk is too high," he said.

Navy defends decision

Captain Fiona Sneath from HMAS Albatross Nowra defended the decision, and said the Navy is providing a guest speaker, a catafalque party and flag bearers.

Captain Sneath said a fresh set of eyes looked at the position this year and a concern was raised that the time of day could be a concern.

"It is not a usual thing that happens at a dawn service, the march is generally the thing that happens at the main marches later in the day," she said.

"So there are a number of people there, there is darkness, and there were various people who looked at the conditions and an assessment was made based on usual procedure and potential safety."

"I can understand the community concerns, and we do put our people in danger at times, but we do have an obligation that we reduce any risk as much as practicable."

Captain Sneath said she is willing to review the matter.

"It might mean just having some more people to observe what is going on and are around to observe what is going on and make others who are marching in the squad aware that there is perhaps a pothole or move away from a particular obstacle," she said.

It is not clear if it is happening at any other locations around Australia.

11th Apr 2019, 02:02
An olde but a goodie...Senate Estimates 18 Feb '19: Airservices - Power saws & ladders

11th Apr 2019, 12:08
That might be the excuse they give, but it probably isn't the reason they are staying away from a mass gathering of people on a day that might be used by some other people to make a statement.

Rated De
11th Apr 2019, 12:15
That might be the excuse they give, but it probably isn't the reason they are staying away from a mass gathering of people on a day that might be used by some other people to make a statement.

Or could it be, the shoes are falling apart...


12th Apr 2019, 07:29
In the 1982 film "An Officer and a Gentleman" it was the role of of the training sargent to find out if the candidates were too peaceful to bomb an enemy village where there might be women and children, and reject them if that was the case. How times have changed.

Ascend Charlie
12th Apr 2019, 10:29
"The only things to come out of that place were steers, and queers. Which one are you?"

"Ooooohh, Sergeant Major, that's an awful thing to say! You just gave me PTSD, and I think there will be a Congressional enquiry into your behaviour! Me Too!!"

12th Apr 2019, 11:10
A picture tells a thousand words: