Klasjet incident Madrid

[Nothrills]

Lots of discussion now in Lithuanian media about the charter flight on 5 April MAD-KUN carrying a basketball team. Two(?) failed attempts to land at Madrid after some malfunction, finally landed at Getafe Airforce Base. Some more info here (but probably there was more to that): Incident: Klasjet B735 at Madrid on Apr 5th 2019, navigation malfunction (http://avherald.com/h?article=4c65913a)

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[ProPax]

I can't read METARs. Could someone please decypher them for those of "us" who don't print them out every day as part of a work day? :) What was the weather like in Madrid? Why couldn't they land there? Just losing navigation doesn't seem like a good enough reason to miss two approaches.

Off-topic PS It's been SO long since I heard the name Zalgiris. The best Soviet Dream Team back in the 80s. Arvidas Sabonis, Valdemaras Homichus, Sergey Yovaysha, Rimas Kurtinaitis. Sweet memories.

[FlightDetent]

Wet and windy, some rather strong showers and almost obscured sky.

One of the comments in the AVHerald's discussion, about entering the INIT coordinates wrongly to the IRS - E instead of W, brings memories of Fleet Office bulletins from days long gone.

[MightyOneFiveTwo]

For our notapilot friends, here:
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(Take out the quotes and the carriage returns, I can't post urls.)

[Banana Joe]

Well, what prevented them from continuing raw data? Certainly, ATC could have coordinated VOR/NDB to VOR/NDB directs.

[A320LGW]

Could it be that they programmed E instead of W for the longitude on the POS INIT? It seems they lost all navigation and were flying on standby's and the compass, hence the repeated misalignment when returning to Madrid

[PerPurumTonantes]

I can't read METARs. Could someone please decypher them for those of "us" who don't print them out every day as part of a work day? :)

Option 1: Enter "How to decode METAR" into google.

Option 2: Post message on pilot's forum asking pilots to decode all METARS for you :rolleyes:

Here you go
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+decode+metar&oq=how+to+decode+metar&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.9824j0j7&client=ms-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

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[Smythe]

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x720/oum1jcx_fac4474143db472b5268c6ab45afcf9d6914a218.jpg

On Apr 12th 2019 Spain's CIAIAC reported that during preflight preparations a fault with one of the aircraft's navigation systems had been spotted. An engineer and the crew reviewed the minimum equipment list (MEL) verifying that the aircraft was permitted to be dispatched with this equipment inoperative and released the aircraft under the related MEL requirements. During climb out a number of faults occurred also in the first officer's navigation systems prompting the crew to return to Madrid without the automatic navigation equipment available. Following two landing attempts which ended in go arounds due to adverse weather conditions the crew declared emergency and diverted the aircraft to Getafe Airforce Base for a safe landing.

[Capn Bloggs]

Children of the .... oh stop it Boggs!

[mcdhu]

Didn't a Polish 73 take off from LHR a while back with IRSs either not aligned or misaligned and ended up landing back at LHR having meandered around the London TCA in a fairly random fashion?
Cheers
mcdhu

[FlyingStone]

The navigation system mentioned in the article in could easily be IRS.

Flying 737 on stby horizon and magnetic compass while dodging CBs wouldn't be an easy day at work.

[A320LGW]

Didn't a Polish 73 take off from LHR a while back with IRSs either not aligned or misaligned and ended up landing back at LHR having meandered around the London TCA in a fairly random fashion?
Cheers
mcdhu

I have read much about this alleged incident but so far have not yet been able to find any actual articles referring to it?

[mcdhu]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/2113679/Polish-jet-almost-crashed-after-pilot-failed-to-understand-English-instructions.html tells you a bit about it.

mcdhu

[alfaman]

And a bit more here: https://skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/626.pdf