View Full Version : Singapore 787-10 Rolls Royce Engine Problems
markredgwell
2nd Apr 2019, 16:03
It would seem that Rolls Royce 787-10 Engines are suffering from a similar Problem to the Smaller 787"s
Gove N.T.
2nd Apr 2019, 17:20
It would seem that Rolls Royce 787-10 Engines are suffering from a similar Problem to the Smaller 787"s
Its reported in a you tube clip by DJ's Aviation that 2 of the SQ fleet of 787-10 aircraft have been grounded following routine inspection, the rest (7 I gather) remain operational
No doubt there will be further speculation and comment
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgo2cOTkb70
markredgwell
2nd Apr 2019, 21:20
i had a link i wanted to post but fella fowl of being a rare poster and not posting more than 9 out of 10n times i cant post it but it would seem quite a few more have been grounded. from the
Mainly Miles Website
From the Linked PPage.there info text is in RED
The list at 12pm Singapore Time on 2nd April 2019, according to FlightRadar24, now includes:
9V-SCA: On ground in Singapore since 31st March / 11.38pm
9V-SCB: On ground in Singapore since 1st April / 3.13pm
9V-SCC: On ground in Singapore since 28th March / 11.57pm
9V-SCD: On ground in Singapore since 30th March / 8.16pm
9V-SCE: On ground in Singapore since 1st April / 12.42am
9V-SCF: On ground in Singapore since 1st April / 4.49pm
Today’s ‘787’ flights (2nd April)
Seven of the 13 Singapore Airlines departures from Changi that were supposed to operate on the Boeing 787-10 today have been changed to either the Airbus A330 or Boeing 777-200.
SQ656 (0120 to FUK). Operated by A330
SQ672 (0120 to NGO). Operated by A330
SQ618 (0125 to KIX). Operated by 787-10 (9V-SCI)
SQ876 (0820 to TPE). Operated by A330
SQ942 (0915 to DPS). Operated by 787-10 (9V-SCG)
SQ622 (1355 to KIX). To be operated by A330
SQ872 (1430 to HKG). To be operated by 777-200
SQ186 (1725 to SGN). To be operated by 787-10
SQ982 (1730 to BKK). To be operated by 787-10
SQ978 (1830 to BKK). To be operated by 787-10
SQ215 (1845 to PER). To be operated by A330
SQ918 (1925 to MNL). To be operated by 777-200
SQ638 (2355 to NRT). To be operated by 787-10
Dee Vee
2nd Apr 2019, 22:12
i had a link i wanted to post from the Mainly Miles Website
this one?
Singapore Airlines has grounded over half its Boeing 787-10 fleet (https://mainlymiles.com/2019/04/02/singapore-airlines-has-grounded-over-half-its-boeing-787-10-fleet/)
Its starting to get a bit ridiculous with all the early failures and groundings of aircraft due to them being pushed into service too early and with insufficient testing, all in the name of profits...
At this rate airlines are going to need to keep a 25% buffer of "spare" aircraft, preferably from a different manufacturer, as an insurance policy, to deal with all the failures.
WingNut60
2nd Apr 2019, 22:19
this one?
Singapore Airlines has grounded over half its Boeing 787-10 fleet (https://mainlymiles.com/2019/04/02/singapore-airlines-has-grounded-over-half-its-boeing-787-10-fleet/)
Its starting to get a bit ridiculous with all the early failures and groundings of aircraft due to them being pushed into service too early and with insufficient testing, all in the name of profits...
At this rate airlines are going to need to keep a 25% buffer of "spare" aircraft, preferably from a different manufacturer, as an insurance policy, to deal with all the failures.
Or have punitive availability guarantees sufficient to counter the rush to release new models?
tdracer
2nd Apr 2019, 22:21
Or have punitive availability guarantees sufficient to counter the rush to release new models?
Or buy the GEnx engine option...
Switchbait
2nd Apr 2019, 23:50
^^ exactly!
Why anyone would order RR engines is beyond me.....
JohnMcGhie
3rd Apr 2019, 00:41
Or buy the GEnx engine option...
Seems the GEnx is not immune...
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/jetstar-787-suffers-problems-with-both-engines-on-approach-to-osaka-20190327-p5183s.html
Australopithecus
3rd Apr 2019, 03:38
Seems the GEnx is not immune...
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/jetstar-787-suffers-problems-with-both-engines-on-approach-to-osaka-20190327-p5183s.html
That was a fuel contamination issue...nothing to do with the engines apart from them not running on crap fuel.
Australopithecus
3rd Apr 2019, 03:40
^^ exactly!
Why anyone would order RR engines is beyond me.....
Because eventually, with penalty payments, the engines are free?
downdata
3rd Apr 2019, 05:49
^^ exactly!
Why anyone would order RR engines is beyond me.....
The same reason why airlines still orders GE after design issues with the Genx on the 787 and 748.... or for that matter cfm and pw with their teething issues on the leap and gtfs...
WingNut60
3rd Apr 2019, 06:36
That was a fuel contamination issue...nothing to do with the engines apart from them not running on crap fuel.
Presumably fueled up in Cairns. Maybe some of that cyclone water got into the tank farm.
KelvinD
3rd Apr 2019, 06:45
According to the local media, they have grounded 2 aircraft. Others are in for inspection.
I first read this on the children's channel (you know, the one with 'airliners' in its name) yesterday morning and ran through an exercise similar to Mark's above (post #3). I too came up with similar dates/flights for the aircraft but, checking again last night and this morning, found the sky is not falling in. A good example is SQ622, shown in Mark's list as being subbed with an A330. It is at this moment airborne and is being flown by 9V-SCF.
Another example listed above is SQ672. This was flown last night by 9V-SCB, which is now flying the return leg as SQ671.
9V-SCC flew SQ876 to Taipei this morning.
Dee Vee
3rd Apr 2019, 08:40
Presumably fueled up in Cairns.
Jetstar pilots faced 'engine fail' warnings minutes before landing (https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/jetstar-pilots-faced-engine-fail-warnings-minutes-before-landing-20190403-p51abg.html)
The aircraft was fuelled in New Zealand before it was flown to Cairns to pick up passengers for the onward journey to Osaka on Friday.
A fuel sample has been sent for testing at a laboratory in Japan to determine whether it was contaminated. It is likely to be the end of the week before the results are completed.
However, it has been suggested that inspectors are already starting to discount fuel contamination as a cause of the mid-air incident.
The Ancient Geek
3rd Apr 2019, 08:51
<Yawn>
All new generation engines have teething problems, this has been historically true since they were invented.
RR is no worse than GE or P&W, life goes on........
FlexibleResponse
3rd Apr 2019, 22:26
Singapore Airlines has grounded a pair of Boeing 787-10s owing to premature deterioration of the high pressure turbine (HPT) blades in their Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 TEN engines.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/two-sia-787s-grounded-owing-to-trent-1000-ten-hpt-i-457105/
KelvinD
4th Apr 2019, 08:53
The flightglobal article seems not to be accurate. It states that 9V-SCF was one of the affected aircraft. Yet it flew the Osaka service yesterday.
Similarly, the other aircraft mentioned in the report, 9V-SCB is currently flying the Nagoya service.
It does seem that SCD may be affected as it has not flown since 30th March and SCE has not flown since 31st March.
Buster15
4th Apr 2019, 14:57
^^ exactly!
Why anyone would order RR engines is beyond me.....
So what experience have you got of ordering such engines I wonder. Please do tell.
ironbutt57
4th Apr 2019, 18:28
So what experience have you got of ordering such engines I wonder. Please do tell.
don't reckon one would need much, seeing as how there seem to be endemic problems with their products as of late...
Thrust Augmentation
4th Apr 2019, 19:25
don't reckon one would need much, seeing as how there seem to be endemic problems with their products as of late...
Yawn............
AndoniP
5th Apr 2019, 12:48
oh look, americans knocking RR, what a surprise...
^^ exactly!
Why anyone would order RR engines is beyond me.....
Why anyone would order Boeings is beyond me.....
Too soon?
Buster15
7th Apr 2019, 13:05
don't reckon one would need much, seeing as how there seem to be endemic problems with their products as of late...
As I expected. You know absolutely nothing about what you are taking about.
At least you have admitted that.
physicus
7th Apr 2019, 13:44
TURIN only my wife gets to call "too soon" after she caught me cheating and I'm making light of it. On a more serious note, if it's Boeing, I ain't going. Too soon too?
carlos755
8th Apr 2019, 19:05
Does anyone know if the required boroscopes on the Trent 1000s can be c/o on the Line or do they require a hangar?
On a more serious note, if it's Boeing, I ain't going. Too soon too?
let me fix that, “if it's Boeing, it ain't going.”
B787register
10th Apr 2019, 11:45
I have the following aircraft stored according to my notes
9V-SCD and SCI