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Martin the Martian
9th Mar 2019, 21:59
So how much are we likely to end up paying for the 48th Fighter Wing and the other USAF assets in the UK?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-08/trump-said-to-seek-huge-premium-from-allies-hosting-u-s-troops

Bing
10th Mar 2019, 11:45
Can we increase the rent?

oldmansquipper
10th Mar 2019, 12:14
Chris Grayling will find the money from somewhere...

Melchett01
10th Mar 2019, 12:37
I was talking to a US DOD liaison officer a while back on the issue of ‘the special relationship’. I did suggest that from either side it could be viewed as being one sided ie the U.K. always begging, the U.S. always seeking to extract a high price. His view from the DOD seat was that the U.K. already paid its way, largely in kind through strategic access and basing and political support. We would do well to remember that in any discussions.

octavian
11th Mar 2019, 10:33
Given the quality of our brexit negotiators and those negotiations, I don’t think we should be holding our collective breaths ��

Lyneham Lad
11th Mar 2019, 11:34
In The Times 'Comment' section today.

Nato is not an American protection racket (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nato-is-not-an-american-protection-racket-7c2kjk3ts?shareToken=fd5663ab486cda3d7e21d37397a7dedc)

Trump’s plan to make his allies pay the full cost of US troops on their soil may backfire on him

melmothtw
11th Mar 2019, 13:40
It should be noted that the US does not base its forces here or anywhere out of charity, but because it is in its strategic interests to do so. I'm a big fan of the US, but if I were Germany, Japan or Korea right now I would be tempted to tell Trump to bog-off.

teeteringhead
11th Mar 2019, 14:14
So long as the Brxit team or Mother Theresa don't do the negotiations!

As someone said, she's the only person who could go into DFS and pay full price for a sofa.

Asturias56
12th Mar 2019, 10:45
I was talking to a US DOD liaison officer a while back on the issue of ‘the special relationship’. I did suggest that from either side it could be viewed as being one sided ie the U.K. always begging, the U.S. always seeking to extract a high price. His view from the DOD seat was that the U.K. already paid its way, largely in kind through strategic access and basing and political support. We would do well to remember that in any discussions.
My understanding is that the whole point of the "special relationship" is that it isn't a treaty or commercial agreement - it's two countries who are joined at the hip in all sorts of way and who find it jointly beneficial to work closely together on a whole range of items.

Can you imagine any other country lending it's engineers to another (as the US Coast guard does to the RN currently) or having British officers and civil servants embedded in places like RAND who look at future US requirements (and hence strategy) - I don't think so.

It's not about money - it's about interests and outlook - and trust

Harley Quinn
12th Mar 2019, 11:42
It should be noted that the US does not base its forces here or anywhere out of charity, but because it is in its strategic interests to do so. I'm a big fan of the US, but if I were Germany, Japan or Korea right now I would be tempted to tell Trump to bog-off.

Absolutely right, let's see how committed Germany, Japan or Korea are to standing on their own.

melmothtw
12th Mar 2019, 12:21
Why should Germany, Japan and Korea not be able to 'stand on their own', while...I don't know, Hungary, Thailand and Vietnam can?

And why are these 3 countries being singled out? Australia, Poland, the UK and many other also host US forces.