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Lyneham Lad
8th Mar 2019, 15:27
On Breaking Defense (https://breakingdefense.com/2019/03/red-flag-2019-first-great-power-air-war-test-in-years/?utm_campaign=Breaking%20Defense%20Air%20&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=70605729&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8ZnK_zGHgKXLbu4daZCKJfuJrzYiolyzgZY4AWQgY1zOmWbKM3vKPb6aupUF oWHB5LdqAhxCiwAmzsLylmDgRLg_npRg&_hsmi=70605729):-

Snippets from the article -
After refueling at night over a southern-Nevada dust bowl called Texas Lake, scores of U.S. and coalition warplanes crossed into contested air space on a mission to suppress state-of-the-art enemy air defenses. The formation was soon bombarded with warning signals as radars of advanced surface-to-air (SAM) missile batteries with the reach of Russia’s S-300 and S-400 air defense systems switched on.

Electronic jammers struck as fighter pilots tried to communicate with an E-8 Joint STARS command-and-control aircraft; rear-area command cells had satellite linkages disrupted by cyberattacks. Starbursts of surface-to-air missile launches (https://breakingdefense.com/tag/surface-to-air-missiles/)flashed on the ground below, and cockpit alarms warned that the formation was being painted with multiple radars from enemy aircraft with paint schemes and capabilities designed to replicate the likes of the advanced Sukhoi Su-30 Flanker fighters in the arsenals of both Russia and China.

Because this was the final mission in a three-week Red Flag exercise (https://breakingdefense.com/tag/red-flag/), however, the “Blue Force” pilots did not panic when confronted with a coordinated attack by Red Force Aggressor Squadrons operating in all domains – air, ground, space and cyberspace. Working in tandem, fifth generation F-22 Raptors and F-35 Lightning aircraft escorting the Blue Force formation exploited their stealth and speed to close quickly with the most immediate threats. The F-35s used their unprecedented sensor suites to gather, fuse data and distribute a common picture of the threat array to other aircraft. Fourth generation F-15s, F-16s, F-18s and British Eurofighters used that targeting data to launch beyond-visual range missiles and bomb strikes on SAM sites as strike aircraft proceeded successfully to other enemy targets. The simulated warfare felt surprisingly real in the cockpits of warplanes traveling at supersonic speeds.

The last mission of the 19-1 Red Flag was an advanced suppression of enemy air defenses at night. By the third week, the Blue Force had solved the puzzle of weapons system integration, designing a strike force echelon able to exploit the strengths and mask the weaknesses of each individual aircraft. The biggest learning curve in that process was understanding how fifth generation aircraft can use their unmatched stealth, speed and sensor capabilities to increase the effectiveness and survivability of the entire strike package.

“The F-22s (https://breakingdefense.com/tag/f-22/) and F-35s were able to use our stealth and speed to get closer to the threats and soften them up, collect a lot of information about the battlespace, and then use the F-35’s data link in particular to communicate that picture to the rest of the strike package so that fourth generation aircraft like the F-15s and F-16s could attack those targets with their missiles and bombs,” said Lt. Col. Yosef Morris, commander of the 4th Fighter Squadron of F-35s. “While we struggled at that mission in the first week, by the last week we broke down the biggest integrated air defense system the Aggressors could field, and allowed our strike aircraft to successfully get through to their targets. So we left Red Flag highly confident in our ability to operate in a high-threat environment against a near-peer competitor, both in terms of operating our own aircraft and in integrating them into a larger strike package. You can’t get a confidence boost like that anywhere else in the world other than actual combat.”

The combat edge of stealthy fifth-gen aircraft in high-intensity air combat, and their force multiplying effect when carefully integrated in a “high-low” mix with fourth generation fighters that may have superior endurance and weapons carrying capacity, is one of the prime lessons of recent Red Flag exercises. In last year’s simulations, F-35s have reportedly achieved a kill ratio against Aggressors as high as 15 to 1.



So all's well that ends well...

NutLoose
8th Mar 2019, 15:49
Trouble is by the end of week one the RAF would be left with nothing left to fly and so by week three after it all had been figured out we would be still wondering how to get those students sitting in CIO's for the last couple of years into a cockpit to start their training to replace them....... or am I being cynical.. :E:p

Lyneham Lad
8th Mar 2019, 15:49
Warships sink. Bases burn. F-35s die on the runway. Can $24 billion a year -- 3.3 % of the Pentagon budget -- fix the problem? (https://breakingdefense.com/2019/03/us-gets-its-ass-handed-to-it-in-wargames-heres-a-24-billion-fix/)So all is not well... :eek:

sandiego89
8th Mar 2019, 18:13
Warships sink. Bases burn. F-35s die on the runway. Can $24 billion a year -- 3.3 % of the Pentagon budget -- fix the problem? (https://breakingdefense.com/2019/03/us-gets-its-ass-handed-to-it-in-wargames-heres-a-24-billion-fix/)So all is not well... :eek:

So RAND and a fat cat senior fellow at a think tank/consulting business are calling for MORE money? Color me shocked. While some of the recommendations especially hardening some links seem on mark, lots of this gee whiz stuff seems rife with the need to keep consultants and integrators well fed.

An giving the B-1's to the US Navy? No thanks- just task the air force with serious maritime denial. Imagine the B-21 could have a role there.

Bob Viking
8th Mar 2019, 19:41
Proof that the F35 is actually highly capable? How very inconvenient for the denizens of this forum!

BV

BVRAAM
8th Mar 2019, 21:49
Proof that the F35 is actually highly capable? How very inconvenient for the denizens of this forum!

BV

I find that F-35 nay-sayers are often the same group who think the EE Lightning was a "good fighter."
The delusion is similar.

weemonkey
8th Mar 2019, 22:08
I find that F-35 nay-sayers are often the same group who think the EE Lightning was a "good fighter."
The delusion is similar.

How do you then explain the upgrade program for the F35?

BVRAAM
8th Mar 2019, 22:31
How do you then explain the upgrade program for the F35?

What do you mean?

flighthappens
8th Mar 2019, 23:25
How do you then explain the upgrade program for the F35?

the same way that the spitfire MkXIV wasn’t the same as the MkII, or the F-16 bk70 is significantly more capable than the original F-16A. If you are standing still in the fighter game you are moving backwards compared to everyone else.

Fact is the F-35 will be continuously developed until it is out of service...

BVRAAM
9th Mar 2019, 21:38
the same way that the spitfire MkXIV wasn’t the same as the MkII, or the F-16 bk70 is significantly more capable than the original F-16A. If you are standing still in the fighter game you are moving backwards compared to everyone else.

Fact is the F-35 will be continuously developed until it is out of service...


Just like the Tornado GR4 was - I think it only stopped flying with 41 Sqn just over a year ago.

Looking back through old archives of various reports, it seems the Tornado was harshly criticised too. Fast forward to March 2019 and grown men have been seen with tears rolling down their faces as they see the RAF Tornado for their final time.
I was talking to Cab Townsend last week at Marham, and he said that in over three decades, the exact same fields will be full of the same number of people saying farewell to the F-35, and many of us who were there last week will be in our late 50's/early 60's.

Aircraft are criticised because it's cool and the same people end up crying like babies when they retire. What about the Jaguar? I'm pretty sure I could dig up archives on that where people moaned that it was "just a trainer," but how many say they miss it? Loads!