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In July 1974 I filled two pages of my logbook! Forty five sorties all first pilot for a total time of twenty eight hours forty minutes on a single seat fighter! I’m sure it’s not a record but would like others to get their logbooks out and check!
That's absolutely Frightning Newt. :)
Cows getting bigger
23rd Feb 2019, 20:00
My logbook tells me that in May 2010 I recorded 89 flights totalling 58:50. Not as exciting as single seat fighter though - instructional and demonstration flights.
Most hrs in a month was May 2015 at 70:45.
Only one logbook then ?
Newt wasn't very good at keeping 'em inboard though.
megan
24th Feb 2019, 03:04
Logbook has 23 entries per page, best month was 23 days flying, 25 entries due swap of aircraft on two days, for a total of 134.5 hours (permitted limit 140 hrs/mth)
Ascend Charlie
24th Feb 2019, 10:03
August 89, 25 lines of flying per page, filled 3 pages and 1 line of page 4 on instruction, but only 92.4 hrs in it. Rotten little R22, Enstrom and B47.
Pontius Navigator
24th Feb 2019, 18:17
Shame really one line per flight. Some WW2 Log book entries were multi line proper entries and a valuable historic record.
Modern entries and to be in a personal shorthand with some items from the auth sheet entry and readable between pilots on the same sqn. Some entries can be decoded by others years later but some will be lost in the mists of time.
Exactly.
I've got entries of SSPIs in my first logbook.
Newt will know what that means.
Pontius Navigator
27th Feb 2019, 18:23
Exactly.
I've got entries of SSPIs in my first logbook.
Newt will know what that means.
Short Sortie Practice Intercepts I guess :)
No.
Supersonic practice intercepts. Same thing though.
One intercept at M1.3 to M1.5 and run home to land close to minimums.
Pontius Navigator
27th Feb 2019, 19:49
No.
Supersonic practice intercepts. Same thing though.
One intercept at M1.3 to M1.5 and run home to land close to minimums.
pulling your leg there.
Digresding as one does, our OC Admin, an Ex Observer and once OC 7, got a ride in a T4 on an exercise hoping to witness an intercept on a Vulcan. They spent a long time at cockpit readiness before the scramble. About 4-5 minutes after take off they intercepted a civvi just off the Blue Way, bingoed and back on the ground PDQ.
sycamore
27th Feb 2019, 20:10
Not quite the same...
26/7/`73 ;7 sorties, 5 types,3 airfields,;Bedford,B-Dn,T`Hill..Puma x 2,Hunter 6 x2,Gazelle,Auster 9,Bell47...20 `deck landings`,5 engine-offs currency, 6 normal...4hrs25 m.. Month,,41 `sorties,28h25m,,9 types...
Think our hybrid Lightning 3/6 flew 6 sorties that day,Pete G-J`N was piloting...
BEagle
28th Feb 2019, 07:31
Filled 2 pages in June 1990, then 3 pages during July 1990 at ULAS Summer Camp, RAF St Mawgan...
Quietplease
28th Feb 2019, 09:48
August 63 110 flights, Sept 63 112 flights.
Of which 69 on JP3 & 4 and 153 on Tutor Grunau T21 T31 and Oly2b
Pontius Navigator
28th Feb 2019, 10:59
Filled 2 pages in June 1990, then 3 pages during July 1990 at ULAS Summer Camp, RAF St Mawgan...
I guess you shut down each time to change pax. Did you get out each time?
Once flew with John Elias. We landed at Bitteswell, shut down and had a picnic lunch on the grass outside the shed, finally departed . JE declared the whole time to Lossie and return as one trip.
Steepclimb
28th Feb 2019, 13:13
In June 2010. I made 82 take offs and landings. A total of 45 hours spread over 11 days of the month. 33 of which were logged in one week. On one day I logged 8:25 hours for fifteen loads for a total of 15 hours that weekend.
All single engine. Skydive flying of course. I'm pretty sure many skydive pilots could more than top that.
Not nearly as impressive as in a fast jet. Could never top the OP's stat.
I managed one trip in one day.
6hrs 20mins in a Newt aeroplane. Six refuelling brackets, one of them in cloud for 20 minutes. I couldn't even see my wingman on the other wing of the tanker.
That's rather tiring I can tell you.
Steepclimb
28th Feb 2019, 19:58
I managed one trip in one day.
6hrs 20mins in a Newt aeroplane. Six refuelling brackets, one of them in cloud for 20 minutes. I couldn't even see my wingman on the other wing of the tanker.
That's rather tiring I can tell you.
I'll bet the first beer went down very well after that. More than once did I crawl out of the cockpit. Aching everywhere, sand in the eyes, removing the clamp around my head and trying to trying to restore circulation in my arse. Often there was no beer, just a an hour and a half's drive home. Then do it all again 8 hours later.
Masochistically I did rather enjoy it.
I would love to know what aeroplane that was.
Steepclimb
28th Feb 2019, 20:12
Boringly an Airvan. What's a Newt? Pure stick and rudder flying though.
Newt (the OP) and I flew Lightnings.
Fareastdriver
28th Feb 2019, 20:19
Wimps:
June 1989. 76.35...July 79.10... Aug 79.15... Sept 81.35... Nov 102.55... Dec 33.20. Xmas and leave...Jan 1990 88.35...Feb 65.40. (Short month).
All offshore North Sea on Super Puma.
Steepclimb
28th Feb 2019, 20:19
Newt (the OP) and I flew Lightnings.
I applied to join the RAF just to fly Lightnings. Curiously they didn't agree with my enthusiasm. But flying is flying.
Two weeks flying Sep '70 54:10, Oct 122:15, Nov 91:25, Dec 109:25, Jan 88:25Feb 91:55, Mar two weeks flying 85:05, Apr 134:30, May 115:00
Fareastdriver, You wimp ;) Best day/night was Xmas eve 12:30 (10:00 night) flying top cover for President Thiệu while he spent the night with the troops at a FSB.
Octane
1st Mar 2019, 02:32
How do crop duster pilots log their days flying? Each take off and landing, there could be dozens?
Fareastdriver
1st Mar 2019, 08:59
I appreciate that you were flying your backsides off in Viet Nam. At he same time as your war in Nam I was flying in our war in Borneo. We didn't fly so many hours as you did.
We didn't need to.
We were winning our war.
BEagle
1st Mar 2019, 09:47
dook / newt, remember this?
https://youtu.be/j3xVAxBM4RI
spekesoftly
1st Mar 2019, 11:26
In the EE Lightning promo film above, I was intrigued by the tyre 'block' tread pattern shown at about 3:35. Was this normal?
Steepclimb
1st Mar 2019, 12:47
How do crop duster pilots log their days flying? Each take off and landing, there could be dozens?
Don't know about cropdusting. But when dropping skydivers on busy days. I'd group three or four loads as one flight because they were hot turnarounds and the engine wasn't stopped. Touchdown to wheels off averaged about 4 minutes. I'd imagine it would be similar.
Pontius Navigator
1st Mar 2019, 13:28
Newt (the OP) and I flew Lightnings.
Slightly different, what was your shortest flight full to empty?
BEagle - cheers. Difficult to forget that jet.
spekesoftly - that tread pattern was not normal.
PN - I can't remember exactly, but it would have been about twenty minutes. Night scramble from Wattisham for suspect contact north of Heathrow. Told to maintain 5000ft and expedite, hence about 620 IAS.
Fortunately contact identified shortly afterwards so went home a bit slower and higher.
Octane
1st Mar 2019, 16:08
BEagle - cheers. Difficult to forget that jet.
spekesoftly - that tread pattern was not normal.
PN - I can't remember exactly, but it would have been about twenty minutes. Night scramble from Wattisham for suspect contact north of Heathrow. Told to maintain 5000ft and expedite, hence about 620 IAS.
Fortunately contact identified shortly afterwards so went home a bit slower and higher.
What was the fuel burn/ endurance at 620 knots low level?!
Fortunately the aeroplane could hold that speed easily in dry thrust (no reheat).
Unfortunately I can't answer your question accurately because it was almost fifty years ago.
I am happy to be corrected by any other Lightning pilots but I would think about 100-120 lbs per minute total.
The scramble I described above was in a Mark 3, the highest performance version of them all.
Pontius Navigator
1st Mar 2019, 20:17
Off hand I think an F4 could manage to empty the fuselage in about 3 minutes if you put your mind to it.
Even with two Speys full wet that's some going
We didn't need to.
We were winning our warWe Ozzies were part of that shindig as well. You may have won a non declared war, but did managed to lose an empire. We in Oz take some offence to our treatment going through immigration when visiting the Mother Country, given the blood we have shed in your two world wars. In war there are no winners.
Fareastdriver
2nd Mar 2019, 09:39
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I joined the RAF in Salisbury, Southern Rhodesia.
Pontius Navigator
2nd Mar 2019, 19:38
Even with two Speys full wet that's some going
easy, only 7k in mains, no transfer from wings or tanks when empty fuselage :)
Wander00
3rd Mar 2019, 10:04
Octane - don't know how cropdusters log their time, but I do know that the late and lamented Peter Charles, author of "Six Feet Over", had about 12000 hours crop dusting in his logbook
Dave Hadfield
4th Mar 2019, 00:56
I came close to that last summer in the Spitfire, flying to British Columbia and back (from Ottawa) with a few diversions for airshows.
No guns though -- swapped them for gas tanks.
India Four Two
4th Mar 2019, 12:37
At my gliding club, near Calgary, we log the the total hours flown in one shift by each pilot and put the number of tows and release heights in the remarks column. Typically five or six per hour.
Steepclimb
4th Mar 2019, 21:26
I came close to that last summer in the Spitfire, flying to British Columbia and back (from Ottawa) with a few diversions for airshows.
No guns though -- swapped them for gas tanks.
It's a tough job but someone has to do it. :O How many hours do you have on Spitfires?
Also makes me wonder how your brother logged his time on the ISS? 1 take off, 1 landing, 4000+ hours? :confused:
VerdunLuck
6th Mar 2019, 22:28
Whilst working for an airline in the far south west UK (now, sadly no more) over 30 years ago, if you did the late shift on the Heathrow flights you did 8 sectors per day and often did that for 5 days on the trot, so that was 40 sectors in a week.
A decade before that I did 28 glider tows in a Wilga between a late lunch and an early tea. I must have flown in the morning and probably evening as well. The 28 were all recorded as one line in my logbook, though.
Steepclimb
7th Mar 2019, 22:32
Whilst working for an airline in the far south west UK (now, sadly no more) over 30 years ago, if you did the late shift on the Heathrow flights you did 8 sectors per day and often did that for 5 days on the trot, so that was 40 sectors in a week.
A decade before that I did 28 glider tows in a Wilga between a late lunch and an early tea. I must have flown in the morning and probably evening as well. The 28 were all recorded as one line in my logbook, though.
Love to have flown the Wilga. As for me,
lunch, that was eaten in the climb. I remember once eating away when I looked up and realised I was having lunch in IMC. Oops. But you know you can fly with your knees.
So unprofessional
binbrook
8th Mar 2019, 09:44
Two pages in a month: easy - just ask any BFTS QFI. New course arrives, 4 studes each, so that's 2 in the morning and 2 in the afternoon. Day 1 - Famil x 4, Day 2 - E of C 1 x 4, Day 3 - E of C 2 x 4, and so on until you get them solo.
Maybe it doesn't happen like that now though.
I suspect that would have been on JPs - I've also got that T-shirt, although we were only given three students each.
binbrook
8th Mar 2019, 10:47
Dead right dook. Writing up (was it a 5060?) at the end of the day, it was sometimes difficult to remember who cocked-up what.
Bill Macgillivray
8th Mar 2019, 20:47
Managed it five times since 1959. Two whole pages (not counting monthly summary, on 3rd page!). First as QFI at UBAS summer camp, then twice instructing in Saudi Arabia and twice with SOAF on Skyvans and Defenders. Also once on JP's at Linton but that included a monthly summary! Those were the days!! (I think!)
Bill
BM,
That's a coincidence.
I also instructed at Linton and in Saudi Arabia. Were you at KFAA ?
binbrook,
I always wrote up the trips immediately after debrief, and I think it was F5060.
Genghis the Engineer
9th Mar 2019, 08:45
I've never done that many hours in one month.
I do have two adjacent pages of my logbook when I was a student at ETPS with 13 sorties in a row, in 13 different types: last one admittedly a private flight on leave.
G
ShyTorque
9th Mar 2019, 09:53
As a helicopter pilot I tend to aggregate sectors into a one or two line logbook entry. I once flew a long haul airline pilot in my spare front seat and we did nineteen sectors in less than two hours. After landing he told me I had done what for him would have been months' worth of landings, in that one flight.
binbrook
9th Mar 2019, 11:07
Counsel of perfection dook, and not always achieved I'm afraid by yours truly at that stage of the course.
Bill Macgillivray
9th Mar 2019, 20:49
dook,
Yes, Linton and KFAA. Would have to check logbook again for dates but Linton late 60's and KFAA early 80's.
Bill
kenparry
10th Mar 2019, 08:40
Like dook and binbrook above, I was a JP QFI (in my case in the mid 60s) and it was a frequent occurrence to fill 2 pages in a month. Yes, F5060, quarto size with a pale blue cover; and yes, easy to forget who did what if you did not do the write-up immediately.
mustafagander
10th Mar 2019, 10:05
Log book pages don't tell the whole story about flight time. I log up to 16 hours per sector - not many sectors to reach FTL.
Your sector count is truly impressive though newt. I'm not sure that I want to emulate it.
I'm not sure that I want to emulate it.
You would if you were flying that aeroplane.
Valley in 80/81 on the Hawk, we racked up 3, sometimes 4 trips a day, so 2 pages per month was the norm.
binbrook
11th Mar 2019, 20:01
FTC limit for basic QFIs was 50 hours per month (T/O to landing - none of this chock-to-chock nonsense). Quote: "Do you want to do your 50 hours before you go on leave or after you come back?". Happy days.
kenparry
11th Mar 2019, 20:09
FTC limit for basic QFIs was 50 hours per month
Yes, there was also an annual limit of something around 400-500 hr. I did know one JP QFI who bust that in two consecutive years of his tour, and got 2 consecutive one-sided chats with the AOC for his demonstration of energy. Did not do him any harm - he retired as a 2*
megan
12th Mar 2019, 00:52
I log up to 16 hours per sectorLaggard, folks can do more than that now. ;) Not that I'd want to, nor your 16. A one line entry at one stage could be 10 hours, but that could include possibly say 6 hot refuels and 60 landings, or any number of engine starts. Used to put a tick on the windscreen with a chinagraph to record landings and add up at the end of the day.
Warmtoast
14th Mar 2019, 23:33
Unlike you jet jockeys with plenty of short trips I was able (as a humble AQM / Loadmaster on 99 Sqn at RAF Lyneham in the early 1960's) to only on a couple of occasions fill up one page of my log book in one month.
I attach a photo of one such occasion in November 1962. A couple of interesting trips to Delhi carrying rifles for the Indian army who were fighting the Chinese in a disputed area of the north of the country (the Sino-Indian War).
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x573/logbook_20entry_20nov_201962_20_20greyscale_zpsxhtw78vv_1893 0f8edf69858f520fa7f47ed35502b020a3ac.jpg
One amusing memory of this trip was that the Indians were very thankful for the arms we supplied and asked whether there was anything we wanted? The signaller, I think it was, said "Yes a copy of the Kama Sutra." So on our next flight in we were each presented with a copy of this explicit sex guide and a large bag of tea!
I hope you read it from cover to cover. :E
megan
16th Mar 2019, 04:15
Being true blue pucker Brits they would in all likely hood be more interested in the tea. They even had a play that ran for 6,761 performances, "No Sex Please, We're British". How do the Brits procreate? :eek:
Self loading bear
16th Mar 2019, 06:27
By Brexitation
Warmtoast
16th Mar 2019, 15:12
Being true blue pucker Brits they would in all likely hood be more interested in the tea. They even had a play that ran for 6,761 performances, "No Sex Please, We're British". How do the Brits procreate? :eek:
Being Brits, tea we knew all about, but the mysteries of exotic oriental sex was something to be savoured, so we read the book avidly!
....."mysteries of exotic oriental sex....."
As in "one night in Bangkok and seven days with the doctor" !
IcePaq
25th Jun 2019, 01:13
I went from zero time to PPL in 1 month and 10 additional
flights learning aerobatics, unusual attitudes, and introductory instrument instruction under the hood. Primary trainer was a c150 aerobat and the logbook
rectangular so it's likely.