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rr84c
9th Feb 2019, 13:45
Does anyone have the (old) list of EASA Annex II helicopters please? They've taken it off their website now, and I can't find a copy anywhere. Many thanks!

misterbonkers
10th Feb 2019, 00:12
Does anyone have the (old) list of EASA Annex II helicopters please? They've taken it off their website now, and I can't find a copy anywhere. Many thanks!

Basically now, if it aint an EASA aircraft it's Annex 2;

https://www.easa.europa.eu/document-library/product-certification/type-certificates/easa-product-lists

rr84c
10th Feb 2019, 10:01
Basically now, if it aint an EASA aircraft it's Annex 2

That's not the case, unfortunately (see https://www.caa.co.uk/General-aviation/Pilot-licences/Introduction-to-licensing/What-is-a-non-EASA-aircraft-/). There are specific criteria, e.g. "aircraft with a clear historic relevance, related to a noteworthy historic event" which is a subjective test.

9Aplus
10th Feb 2019, 13:52
Way around may be this list ->
https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/dfu/23012019%20EASA%20T_R_List_Helicopter.pdf

rr84c
10th Feb 2019, 13:58
Way around may be this list ->
https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/dfu/23012019%20EASA%20T_R_List_Helicopter.pdf
Unfortunately not - that doesn't include the Wasp for example, which is definitely an Annex II aircraft

I'm specifically looking for whether the Kamov KA-26 is Annex II or not. It's in the type rating list above, but it's a complex aircraft so doesn't (ostensibly) match one of the definitions

Sloppy Link
10th Feb 2019, 15:40
Wasp automatically becomes Annex II as it is an ex-military aircraft, crucially, with no civil equivalent, ie, not a civil aircraft that has been adapted for military use. I think the OP is looking for the list of aircraft that are not military.

9Aplus
10th Feb 2019, 16:46
... but it's a complex aircraft so doesn't (ostensibly) match one of the definitions

The definitions are OR case.
Against that goes number of Mi 8 T flying in EASA land within local registers.

KA 26 primary task was crop duster behind the "iron curtain", friend of mine from HA have type rating included in his Part 66 B1/C papers.

212man
10th Feb 2019, 17:06
I'm specifically looking for whether the Kamov KA-26 is Annex II or not. It's in the type rating list above,

​​​​​​​surely you’ve answered your own question?

misterbonkers
10th Feb 2019, 17:16
rr84c have you even read the page I linked to? Seek and ye will find.

rr84c
10th Feb 2019, 21:53
rr84c have you even read the page I linked to? Seek and ye will find.
Yes, I have, thank you!! But if it's in the pilot TR list does that mean it is automatically an Annex II aircraft? Maybe, but I haven't found any documentation to connect the two.

rr84c
10th Feb 2019, 21:58
The definitions are OR case.
Against that goes number of Mi 8 T flying in EASA land within local registers.

KA 26 primary task was crop duster behind the "iron curtain", friend of mine from HA have type rating included in his Part 66 B1/C papers.
I'm trying to bring one to the UK on the G- but (a) the CAA has no TC; (b) I can't find the exact definition of Annex II; so I think this is hard...

misterbonkers
11th Feb 2019, 07:27
I don’t think it can be any clearer? If it’s not an EASA type then it’s Annex 2. Even the CAA weblink you posted makes that clear.

md 600 driver
11th Feb 2019, 07:58
if you look at the last Hungarian certificate of airworthiness written on there is the type data certificate number , or ask at kobo they would know

steve.
Or call me if your who I think you are
on what’s app as out of country at moment got internet but no phone

timprice
11th Feb 2019, 18:14
I thought that Annex 11 was now Annex 1, it's basically as misterbonkers says EASA or everything else now which I believe is just Annex 1:{

9Aplus
11th Feb 2019, 18:40
True, now it is Annex 1

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