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effortless
13th Jan 2019, 09:14
Anyone recognise this cockpit. Pilot said to be ex RAF and may have brought down Hammesholdt. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/500x500/6811d8c2_3ac4_4d93_a392_f6cd8f40e811_39223a5d67d9c5e9e53348d 5685b25386a0d8759.jpeg

hoodie
13th Jan 2019, 09:17
Looks like a Rapide or Dragon.

"Hammarskjöld", surely?

effortless
13th Jan 2019, 09:21
Excuse spelling, but thanks, yes Rapide would fit the bill. Single front seat.

Pontius Navigator
13th Jan 2019, 10:46
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dag_Hammarskjöld

longer ron
13th Jan 2019, 11:08
Ex RAF but not British.

Fareastdriver
13th Jan 2019, 11:52
Pilot said to be ex RAF and may have brought down Hammesholdt.

Most of the evidence seems to have been based on what an American surveillance station in Cyprus heard from a Fouga Magister's cockpit transmission 3,200 miles away.

Green Flash
13th Jan 2019, 17:28
It looks like a DH-89 allright (https://www.airliners.net/photo/Scottish-Airways-David-Miller/De-Havilland-DH-89A-Dragon-Rapide/682029)

Warmtoast
13th Jan 2019, 20:06
More here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/12/raf-veteran-admitted-killing-un-secretary-general-dag-hammarskjold-in-1961

...and here:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/12/former-raf-pilot-shot-down-un-chief-dag-hammarskjold-1961-plane

jimjim1
13th Jan 2019, 20:10
For the clueless - such as myself.

Guardian article -

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/12/raf-veteran-admitted-killing-un-secretary-general-dag-hammarskjold-in-1961

"RAF veteran ‘admitted 1961 killing of UN secretary general’
Exclusive: Cold case documentary casts new light on mystery of Dag Hammarskjöld’s plane crash"

"New evidence has emerged linking an RAF veteran to the death in 1961 of the UN secretary general Dag Hammarskjöld (https://www.theguardian.com/world/dag-hammarskjold) in a mysterious plane crash in southern Africa.

Jan van Risseghem has been named as a possible attacker before (https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N17/292/68/pdf/N1729268.pdf?OpenElement), but has always been described simply as a Belgian pilot. The Observer can now reveal that he had extensive ties to Britain, including a British mother and wife, trained with the RAF and was decorated by Britain for his service in the second world war.

Film-makers investigating the 1961 crash for a documentary, Cold Case Hammarskjöld (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9352780/), ..."

Fareastdriver
13th Jan 2019, 20:22
The 'shootdown' theory is based on the triumphal cries from a Fouga Magister trainer, without gunsights or ground radar, overheard by a US listening station in Cyprus some 3,200 miles away. He would have to fly some 130 miles to intercept an aircraft which might be over Ndola at midnight?

The DC6 took off from Kinshasa, elevation 790 ft. to land at Ndola, elevation 4,300 ft. Descending in the black to a minimal lighted airfield?

.No problem, we have 5,000ft to go.

KiloB
14th Jan 2019, 07:43
Another old chestnut which is total BS.
we lived in Lusaka at the time. My Dad worked for DCA and was one of the first on the Scene. When he came home I remember him saying it had all the hallmarks of CFIT and no other damage was visible on the AC.

SASless
14th Jan 2019, 11:57
FED, "Skip" is your friend I guess! Since when were Control Towers open at midnight in that part of the World in those days?

flash8
14th Jan 2019, 15:24
Talk about flying by the seat of your pants.

3wheels
14th Jan 2019, 17:06
Pure Walt’s!

Bare Plane
22nd Feb 2019, 14:21
and a current article on this topic in the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/17/world/africa/hammarskjold-crash-mystery.html

possel
23rd Feb 2019, 15:04
and a current article on this topic in the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/17/world/africa/hammarskjold-crash-mystery.html

That's a good one - just because Dornier made warplanes, they repeat a suggestion that that a Do28 could have intercepted and shot down a DC-6 at night!

oldpax
24th Feb 2019, 00:53
Its a nice memorial though!

dirkdj
8th Oct 2019, 15:12
The pilot in the picture (is/was) Jan Van Rysseghem. When I was a very young glider pilot, I remember him coming to the local flying club to see the 'boss'; it was in the mid 60s, the name certainly rings a bell.