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HTB
8th Jan 2019, 19:43
Help an ageing old frat navigator please. My son has kindly given me as a Christmas present a Revell 1:32 scale model Tornado GR1 to help me while away my declining years (sadistic sod...). The kit is quite detailed, but the left console looks rather more filled with control panels than I remember. I recall the important bits - the sandwich box - or nav bag stowage, the radar controls. the space where that special panel sometimes sat. What else was there on that left console? We're talking '84 - '87, so there may have been later mods (and after that, '87 - '89 I was a sim instructor, then '89 - '92 GR1A at LBH).

Mister B having a senior moment

gr4techie
8th Jan 2019, 20:11
Weapons Control Panel, Radar Control Panel, the control panel for the Betamax tape recorder and map box ?

https://shootaviation.com/sets-and-mockups/cockpit-mockups/modern-fighter-cockpit/#0.38274900%201546982925-gallery-19 (https://shootaviation.com/sets-and-mockups/cockpit-mockups/modern-fighter-cockpit/#0.38274900%201546982925-gallery-19)

99 Change Hands
8th Jan 2019, 21:02
Hi H,
This is the only one I can find in my stash, can't see the SWP though!
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/819x949/gr1_b7c5d3cb97bd12d368926e255544e5f80cc0b4e3.jpg

HTB
8th Jan 2019, 21:52
Thks 99
To clarify, I meant the horizontal console, well aware of what's on the vertical. Seems most of the console is blanks, although I don't recall what the one just aft of the radar controls is - could it be the CPRMD recorder control (and there's another just aft of that). Map Box - the one for keeping nav bag and sandwiches in? What Betamax - was that the CRPMD recorder? Told you I was having senior moments...

It's starting to seep back into the frontal lobes.

Mister B

99 Change Hands
9th Jan 2019, 07:22
You are remembering a lot more about it than I can. Pics online either ignore the left side or show it as being as empty as my pic (which is a very early OEU jet, I think). The simulated GR4 here

https://xplanereviews.com/index.php?/forums/topic/513-aircraft-review-panavia-tornado-gr4-by-x-trident/

is pretty similar. Looks like ground-mapping radar, SWP and butty box to me. Good luck with it.

Just This Once...
9th Jan 2019, 07:24
The SWP (not shown) in the outboard row took a fair amount of space with the commit/pickle outboard of that. Behind the radar control was the HDDR and forward of it was the TIALD panel. On the recce aircraft you had the large control panel forward of the SWP. For a while the MCP/IFU panel was on the left but after 1990/1 the rear cockpit varied quite a bit from aircraft to aircraft.

Recce, TIALD and the odd OEC fit aside the left panel was reasonably sparse on the majority of aircraft. The reason - space for throttles, wingsweep, flap lever, relocated kit et al for those aircraft so equipped.

HTB
9th Jan 2019, 11:30
Thanks guys, that's filled in a few mental gaps. It could be the model kit console caters for a handful of mods and extras such as TIALD.
I think apart from the radar control and HDDR, the 16 sqn jets had blanks (except when SWP was fitted for our tice monthly spells inside). I'll just get on and make the kit as per instructions, ignoring minor cosmetic anomalies.
Ta. Mister B

Just This Once...
9th Jan 2019, 15:18
I cannot recall the front or rear SWP being removed. Clearly not fitted to the TTTE jets but everything else I flew had them fitted, even on UK based jets.

Of course, my brain and memory may have its own half-life.

57mm
9th Jan 2019, 15:34
Wasn't there a cool Photoshop image of a Tonka RCP with an espresso machine plumbed in between the tv/tabs?

Peter G-W
9th Jan 2019, 20:13
I remember showing a SHAR pilot around the cockpits out in Deci in the 80s. When he saw the SWC1 in the rear cockpit he exclaimed, “I didn’t know the RAF had nuclear weapons!”

NutLoose
11th Jan 2019, 23:24
Cough cough, you can get third part ones such as

[Aires 1/32] Tornado IDS Cockpit for Revell Kit : ??? ??? (http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=all2space&logNo=90100837501&categoryNo=2&parentCategoryNo=0)

NutLoose
11th Jan 2019, 23:32
https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/71270-panavia-tornado-gr1-gr4/

NutLoose
11th Jan 2019, 23:58
https://www.jetartaviation.co.uk/what-we-do/aircraft/

Liobian
12th Jan 2019, 11:58
Can anyone enlighten me as to the purpose of the four little white hemispheres on top of the CRTs ?
Have long wondered about them, but not seen in all GRs
TIA

99 Change Hands
12th Jan 2019, 12:17
I think they detected the ambient light and adjusted the brightness but I don't recall them having a particular effect.

HTB
12th Jan 2019, 19:05
Thanks for the links, my son gave me those and a whole host more. 99 - affirm, but not really noticeable under most circs.
What I really want is just the panels to convert the external appearance from GR1 to 1A - SLIR/IRLS and blanking the gun ports (modelling putty, epoxy resin...my son has access to all this sort of stuff as a dental technician, including a 3D printer and the blessing of his boss).
Re SWP, I really cannot recall if it was permanent on GR1, obviously not an option on 1A.
Mister B

NutLoose
12th Jan 2019, 20:27
Flight path do a conversion for the 1's, see

https://www.djparkins.com/home.php?cat=253

Just This Once...
12th Jan 2019, 21:09
Re SWP, I really cannot recall if it was permanent on GR1, obviously not an option on 1A.
Mister B

No, we had them fitted on the 1A too, the recce fit didn't change anything for the strike role; although we did get a more relaxed visit come WSU time. Of course, in the later years the weapons themselves were stored with the aircraft in the II(AC) and stabbed cat HAS sites.