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Pontius
10th Dec 2018, 07:56
Pretty important if you'd like to do your own maintenance and haven't built the machine:

Maintenance Consultation (https://consultation.casa.gov.au/regulatory-program/cd1812ss/?fbclid=IwAR1d6W7X_nOpqX8l3MjFj9Iw_HTwOxGi9IHEl6xm5955R5gss5 S1SCN4_6U)

LeadSled
10th Dec 2018, 08:39
Pretty important if you'd like to do your own maintenance and haven't built the machine:

Maintenance Consultation (https://consultation.casa.gov.au/regulatory-program/cd1812ss/?fbclid=IwAR1d6W7X_nOpqX8l3MjFj9Iw_HTwOxGi9IHEl6xm5955R5gss5 S1SCN4_6U)

Folks,
This is really important for the whole of GA, including Part 135, so get into it and make certain CASA doesn't back out.
And, IT IS NOT ABOUT OWNER MAINTENANCE, just maintenance, period, I have no idea where Pontius got the idea that it is about owner maintenance principally, or at all.
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LeadSled
12th Dec 2018, 03:49
Folks,
This is really important for the whole of GA, including Part 135, so get into it and make certain CASA doesn't back out.
And, IT IS NOT ABOUT OWNER MAINTENANCE, just maintenance, period, I have no idea where Pontius got the idea that it is about owner maintenance principally, or at all.
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Folks,
Amazing, something that is absolutely critical to the future of GA, and nobody has anything to say about it ---- I guess we can leave it all to CASA, they have our best interests at heart --- don't they??
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Sunfish
12th Dec 2018, 06:11
i thinkmi’ll just give up. there is nothing in there about maintenance of experimental aircraft.

aroa
12th Dec 2018, 06:20
Havent been able to yet get hold of AMROBA newsletter
Anyone got one to put up so we can hava gander?

LeadSled
12th Dec 2018, 08:14
i thinkmi’ll just give up. there is nothing in there about maintenance of experimental aircraft.






Sunfish,
If it faithfully follows FAR 43 (as CASA claims to do) it will not apply to aircraft other than standard category aircraft.
FAR 43 exempts all Experimental Amateur Built, which will (should) have their own arrangements. If CASA does this (as it originally promised in 1999), it will eliminate on of the big bugbears of Experimental Amateur Built maintenance, the "exemptions" that we have existed under since 1998..
Continuing Airworthiness requirements/maintenance requirements are issued by the delegate who issues the Experimental (or other Special Flight) Certificate.
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FAR 43§ 43.1 Applicability.

(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (d) of this section, this part prescribes rules governing the maintenance (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=fc2f07b03933ee61135b3c5de147ca70&term_occur=1&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1), preventive maintenance (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=14c11fdb038b298e0e81fb0abeff23ce&term_occur=1&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1), rebuilding, and alteration of any -(1) Aircraft (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=8e9caab04f792d93d0738c9d3290164e&term_occur=1&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1) having a U.S. airworthiness certificate;(2) Foreign-registered civil aircraft (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=2810380138e0a0dfc90733097a59235a&term_occur=1&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1) used in common carriage or carriage of mail under the provisions of Part 121 or 135 of this chapter; and(3) Airframe (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=ab360e67ab966d9dfdad8ed63858f553&term_occur=1&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1), aircraft (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=8e9caab04f792d93d0738c9d3290164e&term_occur=2&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1) engines, propellers, appliances, and component parts of such aircraft (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=8e9caab04f792d93d0738c9d3290164e&term_occur=3&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1).

(b) This part does not apply to -(1) Any aircraft (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=8e9caab04f792d93d0738c9d3290164e&term_occur=4&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1) for which the FAA (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=df14de7c16e00ca3868915d263954ee7&term_occur=1&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1) has issued an experimental certificate, unless the FAA (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=df14de7c16e00ca3868915d263954ee7&term_occur=2&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1) has previously issued a different kind of airworthiness certificate for that aircraft (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=8e9caab04f792d93d0738c9d3290164e&term_occur=5&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1);(2) Any aircraft (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=8e9caab04f792d93d0738c9d3290164e&term_occur=6&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1) for which the FAA (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=df14de7c16e00ca3868915d263954ee7&term_occur=3&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1) has issued an experimental certificate under the provisions of § 21.191(i)(3) (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/21.191#i_3) of this chapter, and the aircraft (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=8e9caab04f792d93d0738c9d3290164e&term_occur=7&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1) was previously issued a special airworthiness certificate in the light-sport category under the provisions of § 21.190 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/21.190) of this chapter; or(3) Any aircraft (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=8e9caab04f792d93d0738c9d3290164e&term_occur=8&term_src=Title:14:Chapter:I:Subchapter:C:Part:43:43.1) subject to the provisions of part 107 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/part-107) of this chapter.

Fred Gassit
12th Dec 2018, 10:31
I went to a CASA briefing today, the proposed model for experimental category is along the lines you suggested Lead, I'm hoping this will be a positive move and get more aircraft up in the air where they belong.

LeadSled
13th Dec 2018, 23:02
I went to a CASA briefing today, the proposed model for experimental category is along the lines you suggested Lead, I'm hoping this will be a positive move and get more aircraft up in the air where they belong.

Folks,
Here is something to ponder!!
If I am interpreting the CASA draft correctly, SIDS WILL NOT APPLY to aircraft maintained under the proposed Part 43 --- for exactly the same legal reason as they do not apply to Part 91/43 operations in FAALand.
Indeed, the whole concept of "whatever is in the current manufacturer's MM is mandatory" will be a thing of the past.
This would enable Schedule 5, with a minor amendment, to work properly, as in US, (after all, it is already and always has been FAR 43, Appendix D, almost) as the Annual Inspection schedule.
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