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rotornut
6th Dec 2018, 03:20
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46462356

WingNut60
6th Dec 2018, 03:49
Failed to mention anything about God, I notice?
I'd like to hear where the teacher's thoughts on religion lie.

troppo
6th Dec 2018, 04:18
Meanwhile in unzud the kids are left to believe he is maori with a grass skirt and club.
PC gone mad
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109054225/nelson-santa-parade-organisers-apologise-for-maori-santa

Bob Viking
6th Dec 2018, 06:59
Firstly, she is a substitute teacher. So I’m not sure ‘fired’ is the right term. She has been told she won’t be used again in the district.

Secondy, someone who can dash the hopes of a class full of Grade 1 pupils is probably not the sort of person who should be teaching them in the first place, regardless of her own personal beliefs.

Thirdly, she may not be quite the innocent victim the article makes her out to be. I think the way she presented herself may turn out to have a bearing on the outcome.

Before you all shout ‘what does an RAF pilot know about teaching kids?’ may I politely point out that I completed a 4 year BSc with Qualified Teacher Status (not a PGCE, four years of teaching training) in Primary Education (ages 7-11) and a few months of supply teaching before I was (thankfully) accepted into the RAF. Long story!

BV

ORAC
6th Dec 2018, 07:27
Came in useful when dealing with aircrew then?

DaveReidUK
6th Dec 2018, 07:39
"Santa Claus himself could not be reached for comment"

Well obviously not, he's far too busy this time of year to talk to the media.

Pontius Navigator
6th Dec 2018, 08:45
I see she also debunked the tooth fairy.

In a full family theatre show an 8 yr old was taken on stage. She had just lost a tooth. The comedian asked her if she would put it under her pillow. Then said daddy would put a pound under there or 50p if he was mean as there was no tooth fairy.

There was a collective indrawn gasp and the temperature dropped.
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Bob Viking
6th Dec 2018, 09:17
In my present life as a QFI you’d be amazed at the commonality!

BV

TowerDog
6th Dec 2018, 10:54
Failed to mention anything about God, I notice?
I'd like to hear where the teacher's thoughts on religion lie.

Wish teachers would stop the religious brainwashing and teach science instead, although beliefs in various Gods have been good for population control: By some estimates 195 million humans have been killed in religious wars, sacrifices, crusades, etc.

Ancient Mariner
6th Dec 2018, 11:33
Wish teachers would stop the religious brainwashing and teach science instead, although beliefs in various Gods have been good for population control: By some estimates 195 million humans have been killed in religious wars, sacrifices, crusades, etc.

And quite a few has been made thanks to religions. One in particular.
Per

TowerDog
6th Dec 2018, 15:21
And quite a few has been made thanks to religions. One in particular.
Per

Nah, life is sexually transmitted, no religion involved :sad:

KenV
6th Dec 2018, 17:48
By some estimates 195 million humans have been killed in religious wars, sacrifices, crusades, etc.Posh. That's a pittance compared to the number killed by secularism and atheism in the 20th and 21st centuries. Indeed more people have be killed by secularism and atheism since the dawn of the 20th century than in all the previous centuries of human history combined.

Fareastdriver
6th Dec 2018, 18:57
That's because there are a lot more of them and vastly more efficient ways of killing them.

TowerDog
6th Dec 2018, 19:32
Posh. That's a pittance compared to the number killed by secularism and atheism in the 20th and 21st centuries. Indeed more people have be killed by secularism and atheism since the dawn of the 20th century than in all the previous centuries of human history combined.

So it is okay to continue religious wars and killings ? :sad:

Lonewolf_50
6th Dec 2018, 21:13
So it is okay to continue religious wars and killings ? :sad: Apparently so, if you are in the Middle East.
It seems to be a moral imperative.
Latest shenanigans in Yemen is just one of many. It seem to be something like curling for people in Wisconsin: gives them something to do.

WingNut60
6th Dec 2018, 23:25
Posh. That's a pittance compared to the number killed by secularism and atheism in the 20th and 21st centuries. Indeed more people have be killed by secularism and atheism since the dawn of the 20th century than in all the previous centuries of human history combined.

Sorry, but I am struggling to think of even a single war that was CAUSED by atheism.
That atheism was a very significant factor in the implementation of both communist and NAZI doctrine during the 20th century is irrefutable, but as a single causative factor? Sorry, but I just don't see it.
Religion on the other hand, I can think of several examples without even trying.

By definition, any war that is not a religious conflict must be a secular conflict, but I can only reconcile your contention regarding secularism causing conflict in terms of those historic conflicts involved in instituting separation of church and state.
In which case, I would say that the main driver was religion and that those conflicts were / are religious conflicts.

Enlighten me.

Tankertrashnav
7th Dec 2018, 00:21
Oh bloody hell - a nice little thread about Father Christmas has been hijacked by those deluded enough that they think they are going to sort out the whole pro/anti religious thing on Jet Blast. We hear the same arguments over and over and over again - about as useful as the US gun control threads and about as likely to change anyone's mind on the subject.

Meanwhile number one son who lives in Delft has sent a me picture of himself dressed up as Zwarte Piet (Black Pete)who is the black assistant of Sinterklaas and arrives with him by boat from Spain each December. Mind you he didn't do the whole blackface thing as that's getting a bit problematic - just a dab or two of camo cream from his army days!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet

megan
7th Dec 2018, 03:27
Saw an item putting the argument where one child got a computer for Xmas where as another just got socks 'n jocks. Disparity in income of the two families being the reason of course, so stop telling the kids it comes from Santa and he's discriminating. New PC item.

Simplythebeast
7th Dec 2018, 08:19
Santa is a ****. I never forgave him for bringing me the wrong coloured bike......Git.

Pinky the pilot
7th Dec 2018, 11:31
Santa is a ****. I never forgave him for bringing me the wrong coloured bike......Git.

You think you had problems, Simplythe beast!:ooh:

Dunno if the link below will work but check out what Kevin Bloody Wilson has to say about Santa!

Warning; naughty words used!!:eek::=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af7LwnA913g

golfbananajam
7th Dec 2018, 12:03
Santa is a ****. I never forgave him for bringing me the wrong coloured bike......Git.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA6BYMbF6G8

Beware VERY rude words used by Roy Chubby Brown