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India Four Two
23rd Sep 2018, 21:06
Three years ago, during my peripatetic trip to Santa Monica, I mentioned a detour to Lake Havasu City to see London Bridge:

https://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/566357-road-trip-calgary-santa-monica-2.html#post9094088 (scroll about half way down)

The BBC have just published a very interesting article on how the bridge came to be there:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/the_bridge_that_crossed_an_ocean#sa-link_location=container-top-stories-6&intlink_from_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews&intlink_ts=1537733089329&story_slot=1-sa

Warning: some aviation content - looks like a Connie and an Electra to me.

Carbon Bootprint
23rd Sep 2018, 23:13
That is an absolutely awesome thread, I42. Thank you for posting the link as regrettably I missed it first time around. Great photos, I'm quite envious of your journey.

I also read the BBC piece today and thought it was quite well done and comprehensive. Back when I had a McCullogh chain saw (actually, I had two at one point) I had little idea of what all had been behind it, as well as the other ventures.

My wife has her sights set on the Snake River in AZ so I may just find a way to work the London Bridge into it. :)

West Coast
23rd Sep 2018, 23:48
Snake river AZ?

India Four Two
23rd Sep 2018, 23:50
CB,

Thanks for the compliment. It was an amazing trip and I must say that I got a lot of pleasure out of re-reading the whole post and reminiscing about it.

In case you haven’t seen it, have a look at Part Deux:

http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/568983-road-trip-part-2-santa-monica-calgary.html

Since you live in “a whole other country”, I should mention that while I was “motoring West” on I10/Route 66, I wondered how long it would take to travel from Houston to Los Angeles on I10, since the furthest west I had travelled before, was from Houston, where I was living, to San Antonio.

I was was not entirely surprised to discover that nearly half the trip would be in Texas!

West Coast
24th Sep 2018, 00:01
It is a big state. An almost sure beer winner is that El Paso is closer to California then it is to Dallas. Most of the lads I fly with think Dallas is closer. This being in the FMS. Free beer had a special taste.

Carbon Bootprint
24th Sep 2018, 00:06
Snake river AZ?
My wife says that where it is. Am I missing something? Thanks.

WingNut60
24th Sep 2018, 01:21
My wife says that where it is. Am I missing something? Thanks.

It may start out in Arizona, but as I remember, the Evel Knievel bit is not too far out of Idaho Twin Falls
I noticed passing it once driving down from Calgary to Jackpot Nevada.

Loose rivets
24th Sep 2018, 01:28
Thoroughly enjoyed the London Bridge site. What a lovely presentation. Funny thing, our council bought tonnes of that granite for sea wall defences and for years I'd pick up bits on my morning run. Many of them had traces of pained numbers remaining.

I said to a pal, there's probably a million quid's worth of souvenirs lying there, If only one had the impetus to mount bits. It would have needed the council's permission to authenticate it, but it's doubtfull they wanted the fine rubble. Just one of those could have done, should have done's.

When the kids were about 8 - ish, we set out in a Ford LTD for California from San Antonio Texas. The 10 in those days was a meandering dust laden road and on one stop an oldtimer in dungarees ambled across it followed by about twenty chickens. Fuel was first pumped into a huge glass bottle atop the pump.

When we got to El Passo the sheer enormity of our trip hit me and we spent another week going back via Big Bend National Park and a ramble along the Rio Grande. At one point one could paddle into Mexico. Mountain lion's footprints tracked into a cave, and I freaked my wife out by saying I wanted to go in and pet it.

What a fantastic trip that was, and I suppose the reason we developed ties with Texas. Yep, certainly a big state.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1006x1034/rio_grande1_55cbbc7ef332951a97aca5a7e39bb32e4d1e72c9.jpg

West Coast
24th Sep 2018, 01:43
My wife says that where it is. Am I missing something? Thanks.

Not sure. There might be another Snake river, but the one I'm familiar with doesn't touch Arizona. AFAIC, cant go wrong with most of the state.

obgraham
24th Sep 2018, 01:55
Indeed, the Snake River ends about a mile from my house. Eastern Washington State. Lewis and Clark camped there in 1805.

Origin is in W. Wyoming, then passes through Idaho and Washington to its end point in the Columbia River. The Hells Canyon area is the scenic high point, although the area near Twin Falls Idaho is also if interest. To really see the Sanke River you need to join a river excursion company, of which there are a number.

Flash2001
24th Sep 2018, 03:22
Ballad of I10:

The sun is riz, the sun is set, and we ain't got through Texas yet!

After an excellent landing etc...

ethicalconundrum
24th Sep 2018, 04:38
It is a big state. An almost sure beer winner is that El Paso is closer to California then it is to Dallas. Most of the lads I fly with think Dallas is closer. This being in the FMS. Free beer had a special taste.

Close sir, but no cigar. El Paso is closer to Los Angeles(802 miles driving) than it is to Beaumont, TX(827 miles). To Dallas is about 635. Big state in both directions.

Brownsville, TX in the south is 862 miles from Dalhart, TX in the north.

We have our own electric grid, deep water ports, self-sufficient in oil, gas, ag, beef, etc.

Um... lifting...
24th Sep 2018, 04:56
Regardless of the direction of travel, if one drives on Interstate 10 from coast to coast, once one exits Texas, one is more than 2/3 of the way. It's closer from El Paso to Los Angeles than it is from El Paso to Orange, TX. It's closer from Orange to Jacksonville than it is to El Paso. Orange-El Paso is 881 miles.

West Coast
24th Sep 2018, 07:10
Close sir, but no cigar. El Paso is closer to Los Angeles(802 miles driving) than it is to Beaumont, TX(827 miles). To Dallas is about 635. Big state in both directions.

Brownsville, TX in the south is 862 miles from Dalhart, TX in the north.

We have our own electric grid, deep water ports, self-sufficient in oil, gas, ag, beef, etc.

Who said anything about LA? Direct line distance in the FMS, El Paso (ELP) is closer to California (Blythe/BLH) than it is to Dallas/DFW.

Iíll take my gambling proceeeds in Sierra Nevada Pale Ale thank you very much.

SpringHeeledJack
24th Sep 2018, 07:17
I remember hearing for years from various people how the purchaser of the old London Bridge thought that they had bought Tower Bridge and that it was native Indians who were involved, wanting it for a gimmick to promote their casino. Neither of which were true it seems, but just goes to show how things are believed and repeated.

ORAC
24th Sep 2018, 07:24
Just confirms the American GAFA extends all the all way north to south......

tdracer
24th Sep 2018, 17:18
Not many people who have not been to the American West fully appreciate just how big it really is - it's not just Texas (and that includes many east coast Americans - they tend to refer to it (rather disparagingly) as 'fly over country').
We were taking a trip to Wisconsin years ago (racing at Road America) taking I-90. We spent a night in western Montana. Next day drove all day - over 12 hours - averaging better than 50 mph with stops (in those days Montana didn't have a daytime speed limit on the Interstates, but I was driving the rig with my racing equipment and it didn't like going all that fast).
We spent that night in eastern Montana...

WingNut60
24th Sep 2018, 17:39
From my home in Perth, Western Australia the major road distance to the nearest state border is over 1400 km.
On the way I will pass through one city with a population over 7,000 people.
If I drive to the farthest state border crossing I will travel 3200 km.
will pass through no cities. I will encounter two or three towns with a population exceeding 10,000.- and very little else.
For at least 2800 of the 3200 km there will be no signs of human occupancy visible from the road.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
24th Sep 2018, 23:47
I was was not entirely surprised to discover that nearly half the trip would be in Texas! - you should have got a better car then!

ChrisVJ
26th Sep 2018, 08:45
Drove South with the wife and two kids. Stopped in Twin Falls. Crossing the bridge from the highway we looked over the edge. The river is a long way below and the gorge is beautiful. Had to stop the car and walk back and sight see. Just had to.

Browsed the shops before dinner. In a second hand shop sidewalk sale I found a bronze eagle, reduced from a hundred dollars or so to $25. Perhaps not a classic but very competent Almost a fiar replacement for the painted rock "found art" my wife threw out when we emigrated. (That's another story.)

Went on to Las Vegas. Spent a day on Lake Mojave. Swimming there the water is like liquid gold only clear as crystal. Fun time with the kids and the Seadoos.

Then to Havasu. Saw 44C on the car's o/s thermometer. The air con couldn't keep up. Stayed next to London Bridge. It was the weekend and the canal was loaded with about a hundred fast power boats all nose on the bank gunnel to gunnel, radios blaring, huge coolers and cold beer. Felt like the poor relations driving our 'Doos down the line to the lake.

Crossing the lake with a kid on the back of each 'Doo, every now and then we would drive into a pocket of hot air. Felt literally like driving into an oven. You could feel your skin scorching. Occasionally a power boat would nose out of the canal and tear across the lake at about sixty miles an hour. Still I reckon 90% of them went home on their trailers without having actually seen the lake. Just a way to pose and burn away a Saturday and Sunday.

Stuck in the desert the bridge looked rather puny. Strange to pass under it there after having done so when on outings and at boat parties in London. Told the kids but they weren't impressed!

Tankertrashnav
26th Sep 2018, 10:08
Stuck in the desert the bridge looked rather puny. Strange to pass under it there after having done so when on outings and at boat parties in London. Told the kids but they weren't impressed!

I am always a bit bemused at the idea that anyone would go to the trouble and expense of dismantling, transporting and reassembling what is after all a fairly unremarkable 19th century bridge. Still, if the original intention was to create a tourist attraction out of nothing I have to admit that it has been successful.