CX332 HKG to PEK Gear Pins? oops!

[arse]

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I guess it could happen to anyone?

[CRWCRW]

the PEN-KUL one was more impressive

[cannot]

Feel sorry for the Capt , I guess whoever did the walk around will be having tea and bikkies with the fleet manager

[ron burgandy]

Whoever did the walk around will probably be the next fleet manager

[Klimax]

Whoever did the walk around will probably be the next fleet manager

Perhaps it was the Fleet Manager himself doing this sortie??

[Buswinker]

Thought this sort of thing only happened at MH?! 😉

[OK4Wire]

You haven't been around very long, have you Buswinker?!

[VR-HFX]

From Flying PAN to Frying PAN. Next sim check should sort out the procedure...assuming he gets the checker who is current on gear pins (well circa 2001).

[TurningFinalRWY36]

If the cap was PF for the sector he isn't the one checking for no pins on the walk around. So ultimately how much trouble would he be in.
of course the pilots will get blamed and there could be no other reason because our SOPs are perfect

[mngmt mole]

I can see the next NTC: Commanders to do all walk rounds. :rolleyes: :mad:

[Adam Nams]

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[Flex88]

I can see the next NTC: Commanders to do all walk rounds. :rolleyes: :mad:

If my memory serves, the previous incident was the "Fleet Manager" and he did the walk around. Even got promoted after that I recall..

[Slasher1]

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Excellent — I remember when we did that.

Or dress uniform as duty officer.

Perhaps we will get a hello kitty jet to serve in as the penalty box.

[Buswinker]

You haven't been around very long, have you Buswinker?!

i’m doing the gutter press and great unwashed’s lines for them

“MH are unsafe”
*flies AirAsia instead*

[unitedabx]

Let's not forget the ground engineers in all this. The AML will have stated the pins were in and should have been signed off when they were removed. Often I see this signed off BEFORE the pins have been removed to expadite the ground engineers exit in which case I refuse to sign the commanders release until they have been removed and I have physically inspected same myself. It has caused a few delays but hey ho.

[PNM]

Pin had no streamer - which doesn't help.

[SloppyJoe]

No streamer, is that before or after it was subjected to a 200kt wind?

[Veruka Salt]

A340 gear pin incident a few years ago involved a pin with no streamer - at the time, engineering were still using streamer-less pins on occasion. Quite possible that same featured in this event.

[unitedabx]

Streamer or no streamer the AML will have stated pins installed then removed. This should have alerted the crew to make doubly sure the pins ( with or without streamers ) were OUT. No excuses here. Someone f**** up. Own it.

[NG_Kaptain]

Perhaps an urban legend.
Ex MIA, Central American airliner taxiing behind an A******an Airlines jet.
"A******an on taxiway A, this is TACA 123 do you read". Twice called.
MIA ground. "A******n XYZ TACA is calling you".
A******an XYZ. "We professionals at A******n and do not indulge in idle chit chat on frequency".
TACA 123 "Miami ground please tell the professionals at A******an that the streamers that say Remove Before Flight are still in"

[PNM]

No streamer, is that before or after it was subjected to a 200kt wind?
Who knows? Not excusing it... just relaying what the tech log said.

[PNM]

Streamer or no streamer the AML will have stated pins installed then removed. This should have alerted the crew to make doubly sure the pins ( with or without streamers ) were OUT. No excuses here. Someone f**** up. Own it.
No argument there. Just relaying what the tech log said.

[stilton]

Pin had no streamer - which doesn't help.


You look for the holes they go
in, not the streamer

[Oasis]

Still.. how about they put some streamers on, a bit more obvious, especially with a second officer with only one line check instruction on how to do a walkaround.

[PNM]

You look for the holes they go
in, not the streamer
Thanks. Good tip!

[unitedabx]

It was my co-worker who got sacked because of this incident. Also, it cost the company close to one million HKD.

I can't believe he/she got sacked for this. When the Fleet Manager ( RF ) did this nothing was done.

[Air Profit]

...you can't believe this? Seriously...? with this company and its management? Ok...

[Flex88]

I can't believe he/she got sacked for this. When the Fleet Manager ( RF ) did this nothing was done.

He got promoted...........

[Captain Dart]

But he was still known as Richard ‘Gear’!

[CodyBlade]

Happened before and will happen again

[Oasis]

torque400lbs: Capt or fo got sacked? are you talking about the recent gear incident?

[mr did]

The user name leads me to think he means the engineer or mechanic.

[unitedabx]

The user name leads me to think he means the engineer or mechanic.

Two people signed that aircraft out. The engineer and the captain. You can't sack one without the other. Surely, it isn't a sackable offence otherwise Rick "Gear" should have been sacked and that could be used for unfair dismissal in the labour courts.

[C172Driver]

From what I heard from our mechanic the other day: Pins were originally stowed away in cockpit, non critical tire change needed so a pin taken and installed. This wasn’t logged in the AML. Not enough time, so tire change cancelled, gear pin was left in. The usage of gear pin was transparent to the operating crew.

[flyhardmo]

I can't believe he/she got sacked for this. When the Fleet Manager ( RF ) did this nothing was done.
The fleet manager checked and found the gear pins serviceable.

[Oasis]

Too bad for your colleagues that happened.