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snake wow wow
20th Aug 2018, 09:49
Theoretic exam is valid 24 months i.e. 5 of july 2018.
Candidate passes skill test july 2 2018, sends documents but they arrive at CAA july 5.
CAA replies one day too late, should have arrived
july 4, have to redo written, correct?

Thanks

Jhieminga
20th Aug 2018, 10:38
My common sense (I know, I shouldn't use that in these cases) says that it's the date of the skills test that's relevant, but the regulations state 'issue of licence'. I would try contacting the CAA and see if you can get someone to explain to you how much time you should allow between the skills test and end of the validity period, so that the CAA can issue the licence in time. If they cannot quantify that, I'd say that they should issue the licence. Hope you can get this sorted!

(c)Validity period(1) The successful completion of the theoretical knowledge examinations will be valid:
(i) for the issue of a light aircraft pilot licence, a private pilot licence, a sailplane pilot licence or a balloon pilot licence, for a period of 24 months;
(ii) for the issue of a commercial pilot licence, instrument rating (IR) or en route instrument rating (EIR), for a period of 36months;
(iii) the periods in (i) and (ii) shall be counted from the day when the pilot successfully completes the theoretical knowledge examination, in accordance with (b)(2).

Whopity
20th Aug 2018, 11:51
The Examiner is responsible for ensuring that a candidate for a skills test meets all the requirements for licence issue. Did the Examiner make the candidate aware that if he obtained a partial pass or a failure he would not have sufficient time to complete the application, or that having passed, the candidate had a deadline to meet? Normally the application should have been received by the CAA within the validity period, even if they don't issue it within that period.

snake wow wow
23rd Aug 2018, 09:35
Crystal clear Whopity, thanks!

chrisbl
13th Sep 2018, 16:49
You should also reflect on this bit which appears in the now defunct CAP 804 right under the FCL.025 section on validity.

* Note: The validity periods specified are for the issue of a licence or rating, as applicable. This means that the licence and/or rating must be issued by the Authority before the theoretical knowledge examinations validity period expires. It is the responsibility of the applicant to ensure that any licence application is submitted to the CAA at least 10 working days prior to the expiry of the examinations.

chrisbl
13th Sep 2018, 16:51
Theoretic exam is valid 24 months i.e. 5 of july 2018.
Candidate passes skill test july 2 2018, sends documents but they arrive at CAA july 5.
CAA replies one day too late, should have arrived
july 4, have to redo written, correct?

Thanks
probably 10 days too late and yes redo the exams.

rarelyathome
13th Sep 2018, 17:19
You should also reflect on this bit which appears in the now defunct CAP 804 right under the FCL.025 section on validity.

* Note: The validity periods specified are for the issue of a licence or rating, as applicable. This means that the licence and/or rating must be issued by the Authority before the theoretical knowledge examinations validity period expires. It is the responsibility of the applicant to ensure that any licence application is submitted to the CAA at least 10 working days prior to the expiry of the examinations.

But the Authority is failing to meet the 10 days for issue by a considerable margin so how is an applicant who is tight on time to know what the last safe moment is?

Whopity
13th Sep 2018, 20:05
But the Authority is failing to meet the 10 days for issue by a considerable margin so how is an applicant who is tight on time to know what the last safe moment is?
As stated above:
Normally the application should have been received by the CAA within the validity period, even if they don't issue it within that period.
Always get proof of posting. As many applications are online you should get confirmation of receipt.

chrisbl
13th Sep 2018, 20:12
But the Authority is failing to meet the 10 days for issue by a considerable margin so how is an applicant who is tight on time to know what the last safe moment is?

The only think i can suggest is to not get that tight or unfortunately be prepared to re do the exams.

chrisbl
13th Sep 2018, 20:27
As a matter of interest with having to retake the exams, I take it the full set of exams are available as though they have never been taken them before as are the six sittings.
i wondered what the position was for someone who might have passed them all but with a couple of fails along the way. EG, sat all the "A" papers as well as a couple of "B".

Whopity
13th Sep 2018, 20:49
Any exams papers failed will have been notified to the CAA. In the good old days there was a new paper in each subject every year, but not any more. Its really down to the Examiner to sort it out. At the end of the day I doubt the CAA would even notice. So long as they can count the right number of ticks in the relevant boxes.