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windriver
15th Aug 2018, 17:20
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He got 9 months commuted to 6.

Quemerford
16th Aug 2018, 05:58
That's ex-apprentices for you :)

dook
16th Aug 2018, 13:18
Well, we did have an engineer get airborne in a Lightning, albeit not intentionally.

Quemerford
16th Aug 2018, 13:19
Well, we did have an engineer get airborne in a Lightning, albeit not intentionally.

Yes and as I recall he was an ex-Brat too?

Fareastdriver
16th Aug 2018, 15:04
and he had a few hours on Chipmunks as well.

Haraka
17th Aug 2018, 06:21
Apparently three Brats flew a Battle back from France in 1940.
( This was according to the late Haraka Snr.,who was also one of Lord Trenchard's little gentlemen)

CARR30
19th Aug 2018, 11:50
I love the way this has been reported, factually, with a sense of proportion and without sensation.
The press has descended well into the gutter since then.

jimjim1
19th Aug 2018, 16:23
and he had a few hours on Chipmunks as well.

He had his wings as I recall but chose to continue on an Engineering path as was his original intention and had no piloting experience in a jet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfeN3FoZYj0
Wing Commander "Taffy" Holden ENGLISH ELECTRIC LIGHTNING Inadvertent Take Off Incident
Audio Interview with lightening related stills.
Quite Poor sound but it's only 5 mins.

A Memorable Fright - Beds & Herts Counties - The Royal British Legion. (http://counties.britishlegion.org.uk/counties/beds-herts-counties/articles-of-interest/a-memorable-fright)
This contains the text of an article written by Wing Commander Holden describing the incident in detail.

Astonishingly, the aircraft is preserved in the Imperial War Museum.

http://www.********************************/lightning/survivor.php?id=30
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings#co#uk/lightning/survivor.php?id=30 (http://www.********************************/lightning/survivor.php?id=30)
replace hashes with dots to get URL.

India Four Two
19th Aug 2018, 16:29
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings#co#uk/lightning/survivor.php?id=30 (http://www.********************************/lightning/survivor.php?id=30)
replace hashes with dots to get URL.

This is easier:
https://tinyurl.com/myjfhtp

longer ron
20th Aug 2018, 06:15
He had his wings as I recall but chose to continue on an Engineering path as was his original intention and had no piloting experience in a jet.



I doubt he had much choice in the matter Jim - it was a fairly short lived fashion to train some Engo's up to wings standard,one of my Jengo's in the early 70's had 'wings' but he was still stuck with being a Jengo.I would imagine some of the winged Engo's possibly managed to fly TWA (Teeny Weeny Airways/Chipmunk) on ATC summer camps but not sure if any of them managed to get onto a normal flying tour.

ancientaviator62
20th Aug 2018, 07:28
When I was on 92 at Leconfield with the Hunter the Eng O did the airtests etc. At Fairford with the new Hercules one of the co pilots was an Eng O who went back to engineering after his tour. I think he was he was offered GD/Flying but preferred engineering.