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fallmonk
7th Aug 2018, 21:59
Just saw this Norway has ordered 5 to go with the U.K. order of 9 (so far), I can understand trying to keep a single type in one place to have better matinence/logistical support but to be based in a foreign country? Is this normal practice ?
"https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/08/07/570430/UK-Norway-Russia-submarine-hunter-P8-Posiedon"
fallmonk
7th Aug 2018, 22:05
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/08/07/570430/UK-Norway-Russia-submarine-hunter-P8-Posiedon
SASless
7th Aug 2018, 23:38
Perhaps NATO isn't dead yet?
Old-Duffer
8th Aug 2018, 05:24
Shared costs and facilities makes sense as does shared experience, operating procedures etc. Remember TTTE.
Old Duffer
The Norwegian P-8s aren’t going to be based at LM, just have deep maintenance done there. There home base will be Evenes.
https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2016/11/norway-acquires-five-new-maritime-patrol-aircrafts-arctic-waters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harstad/Narvik_Airport,_Evenes
fallmonk
8th Aug 2018, 13:55
The Norwegian P-8s aren’t going to be based at LM, just have deep maintenance done there. There home base will be Evenes.
https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2016/11/norway-acquires-five-new-maritime-patrol-aircrafts-arctic-waters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harstad/Narvik_Airport,_Evenes
that makes more sense.
Thanks ORAC
Steve Bond
8th Aug 2018, 16:47
Shame the article says ours have been ordered for the Royal Navy!
A and C
8th Aug 2018, 19:03
Shame the article says ours have been ordered for the Royal Navy!
I think the P-8’s have been ordered to protect the assets of the Royal Navy , it’s just the RAF who operates them.
lets not let inter service rivalry get in the way of the fact that all three services work for the Queen.
chopper2004
9th Aug 2018, 06:37
I think the P-8’s have been ordered to protect the assets of the Royal Navy , it’s just the RAF who operates them.
lets not let inter service rivalry get in the way of the fact that all three services work for the Queen.
For sure there will Flag folk here and there on sonme patrol flights to get the feel of how Poseidon integrates works with Portsmout/Plymouth/Faslane's finest. Or there could conceivably an exchange posting for an Pinger Observer....however was there ever a Pinger went on exchange to serve on the Nimrod Fleet in the past?
cheers
RubiC Cube
9th Aug 2018, 08:09
Yes, lived next door to one at St Mawgan in the 70s
Heathrow Harry
9th Aug 2018, 08:42
I think the P-8’s have been ordered to protect the assets of the Royal Navy , it’s just the RAF who operates them.
lets not let inter service rivalry get in the way of the fact that all three services work for the Queen.
Actually since 30 January 1649 they work for us........................
Top West 50
10th Aug 2018, 17:12
Probe or recepticle?
Ormeside28
10th Aug 2018, 17:51
In my happy days in Coastal Command in the 50s and 60,s we were operationally run by the Royal Navy through joint Maritime Headquarters in U.K., Malta and Singapore. Never a problem, and we enjoyed working together. Our annual detachments to JASS in Londonderry and Luna were looked forward to. Don’t forget Coastal Captains were advised, not ordered, and we were given a great deal. Of latitude on carrying out our operational duties, especially when shadowing and looking for our Soviet “friends”. I hope that the Poseidon is as crew friendly as were our Neptune’s, Shacks and Nimrods. Good luck to my old Squadron, soon to start again.
Not Long Here
10th Aug 2018, 20:08
For sure there will Flag folk here and there on sonme patrol flights to get the feel of how Poseidon integrates works with Portsmout/Plymouth/Faslane's finest. Or there could conceivably an exchange posting for an Pinger Observer....however was there ever a Pinger went on exchange to serve on the Nimrod Fleet in the past?
cheers
Not only Observers but also Aco operators from the RN flew on exchange with the Nimrod force. We also sent Nav's to the RN to fly with the them.
BluSdUp
10th Aug 2018, 20:25
Scotland is a bit away from the Russian actinon.
It is bad enough that we have decided to close Andøya Airbase were the P3 Orion is based.
With Evenes this gives a good 30 minutes longer flight for a northbound search.
The training ( Sim), operational training ,spareparts,and medium and heavy maintenance would be best served together.
At Stavanger Sola.
Regards
Cpt B
Ex SACLANT
( MB 230E Driver)
Since when does a 737 use 30 minutes on a 50nm flight?????
condor17
13th Aug 2018, 16:59
M609 , personal best is 7 mins 10 sec wheels off - wheels on , for 22 nm . CPH - MMO in a 733 ..
condor .
Green Flash
13th Aug 2018, 19:55
Scotland is a bit away from the Russian actinon.
To be fair, there's probably more of the Northern Fleet sub force lurking under the Minch than the Kola Inlet, so Lossie is quiet well placed! And ditto a Backfire Regt above it too.
fallmonk
15th Aug 2018, 21:12
Looks like the yanks are coming to!
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/funds-allocated-for-us-to-base-p-8-poseidon-aircraft-in-scotland-alongside-british-aircraft/
lossieis going to be a busy place
Davef68
16th Aug 2018, 08:30
Looks like the yanks are coming to!
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/funds-allocated-for-us-to-base-p-8-poseidon-aircraft-in-scotland-alongside-british-aircraft/
lossieis going to be a busy place
If only there was another large airfield in the same area that could have been used as a relief landing ground/supplementary field
Heathrow Harry
16th Aug 2018, 08:53
If only there was another large airfield in the same area that could have been used as a releif landing ground/supplementary field
Aberdeen Airport........................
aw ditor
16th Aug 2018, 10:38
What a relief.......... ?
Ormeside28
16th Aug 2018, 11:53
Dave68.And the locals would be delighted to see the RAF back!
But US P8's are to be based at Lossie
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-45269999
Limited facilities for detachments - not based - as stated in the article.
Change out of £60M after paying for extra pan space wouldn’t pay for the bowling alley....
TelsBoy
22nd Aug 2018, 11:08
There's plenty space at a decent-sized airfield near Lossie, now rather quiet since the Nimrods and the incumbent VGS were flung on the scrapheap, now host only to a couple of Cessnas and a few Pongos.
Might not need to spend 60 million quid either.
Too common sense of course for the Ministry Of Dunces. :rolleyes:
Akrotiri bad boy
24th Aug 2018, 10:59
Has anyone told wee Krankie the Yankees are coming? Lossie could be following Faslane into SBA status in a foreign land.
betty swallox
24th Aug 2018, 19:58
TelsBoy. I’m afraid you are showing a lack of understanding about P-8A operations.
Finningley Boy
25th Aug 2018, 08:59
Has anyone told wee Krankie the Yankees are coming? Lossie could be following Faslane into SBA status in a foreign land.
The Wee Krankie's got other matters causing a distraction at present, the allegations being made against Fred Flintstone for one!
FB