JetAirways and Co. in India

[propilotifr]

Anyone interested? If so , think twice , they are playing nasty games with the expats in India , just last year 35 expats were released , and now they need pilots again , same at Air India Express , they suddenly had changed their fleet plans and now just started releasing their expats and so has happened at Spice Jet many times already , some 777 captains went through the same thing on 2014 at JetAirways ,65 of them , again on 2016 they hired some again and released 6 months later , nasty game , some pilots leave jobs on the promise for long term contracts and then just to find themselves ,released,jobless , unemployed .So be careful out there when trying to leave current jobs for Indian carriers .

[Wannabe Flyer]

https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/jet-airways-has-to-go-for-pay-cuts-or-else-can-t-fly-beyond-60-days-report-118080300178_1.html

Seems they are running out of money to sustain operations. Effect will be on all not only expats. Overall Indian aviation while growing double digit has swung into the red in the last 6 months including the only 2 who were profitable. Problem is not only the fuel but it seems the highly competitive market has kept ticket prices low & most people buying their tickets 14 days out.

[Snowcat]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/jet-will-cut-15-salary-of-expat-pilots-too/articleshow/65267573.cms

[Chris2303]

Jet Airways runs out of cash ? will not be able to fly beyond 60 days.. ? News In Flight (http://newsinflight.com/2018/08/04/jet-airways-runs-out-of-cash-will-not-be-able-to-fly-beyond-60-days/)

[b730]

One of them requires one to agree to 120 hours a month. Is that legal to start with and that is a hellava lot on short haul ops ?

[flying phil 2007]

I see the report into the Jet Airways 777 serious incident at Heathrow in 2016 is finally published.. interesting reading..

http://dgca.nic.in/accident/reports/incident/VT-JEK.pdf

[DaveReidUK]

I see the report into the Jet Airways 777 serious incident at Heathrow in 2016 is finally published.. interesting reading..

http://dgca.nic.in/accident/reports/incident/VT-JEK.pdf

Particularly the findings:

"The aircraft lifted off within the takeoff distance available but:

a. Did not meet regulatory requirements for the all-engine, continued takeoff case.

b. Would not have been able to reject the takeoff and stop in the runway remaining following an engine failure just below V1.

c. Would not have been able to continue the takeoff while meeting regulatory requirements following an engine failure just above V1."

[Capn Bloggs]

Not wanting to hijack the thread, but that report waffled on for pages and pages about stuff that was blindingly obvious: of course the performance was going to be up the creek if you roll with a few thousand less feet than you "planned" on.

The critical issue was the stuffup with an/two EFBs. It should have been given more air than the endless observations about predictable performance deficiencies.

[DaveReidUK]

It should have been given more air than the endless observations about predictable performance deficiencies.

If the performance deficiency had been predicted, we wouldn't be having this discussion. :O

[followthegreens]

As Bloggs said, too much focus on the obvious implications of departing from an intersection while using full length figures. Why did the FO change her EFB input to the skipper's incorrect EFB input is the key. I can't help thinking that a junior female FO telling a senior captain that he's wrong would go down well, given the known CRM issues in that part of the world....

[flying phil 2007]

. . and this only came to light due to locals complaining to the police about a low flying 777 wizzing over thier heads ..

[DaveReidUK]

Some more background:

A few weeks after the departure in question, media reports began to emerge that complaints had been received, initially by the local authorities who passed the details to NATS. NATS in turn notified the AAIB, who delegated the investigation to the authorities in India.

Heathrow, somewhat disingenuously, removed the flightpath from its public WebTrak system, though it was still possible to see the noise monitors registering the passage of the aircraft above them:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmforum.com-vbulletin/541x433/9w117_41429b0bf9fa6060564032dc7f8c543629eb96b8.jpg

When queried, Heathrow responded that the suppression was in line with the policy that "when a flight is being investigated by Air Traffic Control and the airport for reasons not associated directly with community noise the airport will suspend public visibility of a specific flight" and that "pending investigation the flight track may be reinstated" (though in fact it didn't reappear within WebTrak's 12-month historical window).

[oliver2002]

9W has cleared their crew wage dues till December 2018, and the strike starting today was postponed till April 15. All expat pilots have been sent on furlough:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/planes-grounded-jet-airways-sends-expat-pilots-on-leave-without-pay/articleshow/68626313.cms