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KelvinD
30th May 2018, 14:52
It is being reported that a helicopter has crashed near Boroughbridge. No other details as yet.
Whirlybird
30th May 2018, 14:54
Does anyone know anything about this? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/30/helicopter-crashes-near-aldborough-in-north-yorkshire
BBC Yorkshire has this up so far.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...eporting-story (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-44306986?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-leeds-44249952&link_location=live-reporting-story)
212man
30th May 2018, 14:58
The AAIB are attending which almost certainly means fatalities.
David Thompson
30th May 2018, 16:07
Mention of a 'burnt out wreck' in this York Press report ; Helicopter crashes in North Yorkshire | York Press (http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/16258725.Helicopter_crashes_in_North_Yorkshire/) .
Story with photo of YAA on scene in the Yorkshire Post but I use an ad-block so cannot read the article which reports 'enormous explosion' .
Further update,
Emergency services have now sadly confirmed pilot is dead, the were no further passengers onboard.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-leeds-44249952?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5b0e
nellycopter
30th May 2018, 17:42
Very sad as always no matter what happened or who it is ...
md 600 driver
30th May 2018, 18:53
Latest reports say one POB sadly didn’t make it
I have had lots of friends call me checking on me as it’s very local to me Thanks to everyone, unfortunately one of them maybe ringing another of our friends and being told a sad story. My thoughts are with the family of whoever
another sad sad day for aviation
STEVE
JTobias
30th May 2018, 23:16
Hi All
Very sad news.
Unconfirmed reports suggest that it may have been a Jet Ranger inbound for scheduled maintenance in Pontefract.
Weather in and around the Leeds area at the time was LIFR with vis circa 3k in mist and cloud at 100ft.
This may (or may not) have been a factor. Either way its extremeley sad.
Condolonces to all family, friemds and colleages of the Pilot.
Joel
The pilot who sadly passed away in the helicopter crash near Boroughbridge yesterday has now been named as Barry Dodd CBE, the Lord-Lieutenant for North Yorkshire.
Lord-Lieutenant for North Yorkshire named as man killed in yesterday's helicopter crash TheBusinessDesk.com (http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/yorkshire/news/2021569-lord-lieutenant-for-north-yorkshire-named-as-man-killed-in-yesterdays-helicopter-crash?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Yorkshire_31st_May_2018_Breaking)
Condolonces to all his family, friends and colleages.
MrNosy2
31st May 2018, 10:05
Is it known which helicopter it is yet?
Michael Gee
31st May 2018, 10:17
Maybe G-OPEN 206 looks like tall crops might have been a problem for any emergency landing
helipixman
31st May 2018, 10:23
Agree G-OPEN was his helicopter registered to one of his companies.
Condolences to his family
nigelh
31st May 2018, 14:04
Doesn’t look like an emergency landing situation to me .
Thomas coupling
31st May 2018, 14:13
He said it had climbed up into the cloud like it was trying to recover itself, and then dropped like a stone."
Assuming no catastrophic mechanical failure, the weather combined with this eye witness statement suggests IIMC followed by CFIT.
RiP
Nescafe
31st May 2018, 14:33
Assuming
Now there’s a good word.
Simplythebeast
31st May 2018, 17:15
According to the News, the accident investigation could take up to a year to complete. What a waste of resources when we have our own ‘investigators’ who can come up with a cause within a couple of days. Why are people so quick to give an opinion an the cause of accidents with no real information available?
Bravo73
31st May 2018, 17:25
Human nature.
SASless
31st May 2018, 17:35
Historically helicopter pilots are not very inventive as they seem to use tried and true methods to do themselves in with great frequency.
True, pruners could save the AAIB a lot of time and money were they contracted as Third Parties to the Investigation but the AAIB is a government organization and thus delights in details rather than conjecture.
After a several decades in this business my experience is the pruners as a whole do seem pretty accurate in their quick draw determination of cause....given a modicum of factual evidence to work with.
After all, poor vis, low ceilings, and a machine scattered over the countryside is not a new situation to many of us.
If one were to add in some wires or darkness or both....then it gets a lot easier for the Arm Chair Experts.
This is yet another tragedy and condolences to those who suffered the loss they did.
This is just another reminder to the rest of us....it can happen to any of us.
Lascaille
31st May 2018, 17:37
Assuming no catastrophic mechanical failure, the weather combined with this eye witness statement suggests IIMC followed by CFIT.
RiP
Where's the quote from? Don't really want to have to click every single linked article.
GrayHorizonsHeli
31st May 2018, 18:09
According to the News, the accident investigation could take up to a year to complete. What a waste of resources when we have our own ‘investigators’ who can come up with a cause within a couple of days. Why are people so quick to give an opinion an the cause of accidents with no real information available?
the thing is... there can be an absolute bullseye.
and it's apparent to everyone.
however, an investigation will encompass everything and that no doubt takes time to complete.
to me its a legal position to ensure no stone is left unturned. but it does no favors for the industry or the people affected
we crave information so that tomorrow the same doesn't happen to others. a year from now is too long to wait for many of us.
unfortunately many of the details that are documented in an investigation are irrelevant, but it's part of the process we have to accept
so even though there is speculation and theories abound, I welcome them for the simple reason it gets people talking and thinking, because thats usually all that is there as a safety net until the actual final report comes out.
Nige321
31st May 2018, 18:10
Where's the quote from? Don't really want to have to click every single linked article.
Post 15, scroll up...:ugh:
nellycopter
31st May 2018, 20:09
i was taught - if you enter the crap and you cannot see - Go up for a think and ask for help .... NEVER go down for a look ...
Foggles each year can only learn you part of what to do ....
I was due to fly down to London at Lunchtime on the same day - and from 'Yorkshire' but aborted as couldn't see the top of the Pylons....
very sad news indeed... but there is nearly always a common theme.... the weather ...
SASless
31st May 2018, 20:31
there is nearly always a common theme.... the weather ...
Weather never made a decision ever.
EESDL
31st May 2018, 21:59
No one has said what caused the accident - the aircraft going IIMC then, I would suggest uncontrolled Flight Into Terrain was the result of a chain of events and decisions that need to be traced back to conception for us all to learn.
I would suggest that the majority of us can give an educated guess as to why the aircraft crashed - the weather was a factor but it did not cause the crash.
It will not be the first crash where the pilot made an error of judgement - alledgedly ...........
parabellum
1st Jun 2018, 06:46
Where there is a fatality there has to be a coroner's inquest for which every scrap of detail must be gathered. Remember the last time you got stuck in traffic because the road had been temporarily closed? Almost certainly a fatality involved. In this instance I think the coroner's inquest will open quite soon so that the human remains can be released but then adjourned until the AAIB have done their stuff and issued their final report. For those that don't know the AAIB will conduct an investigation that will forensically examine the entire flying and medical history of the pilot and the entire history of the aircraft as well as examining the weather, routing and any other relevant subjects.
Arnie Madsen
5th Jun 2018, 02:09
According to the News, the accident investigation could take up to a year to complete. What a waste of resources when we have our own ‘investigators’ who can come up with a cause within a couple of days. Why are people so quick to give an opinion an the cause of accidents with no real information available?
I agree ... at least as far as discussions here on this forum .... speculation and guesses (as to the cause) of any incident can be a healthy exercise that stretches our brain to consider all the possibilities ...... and so hopefully pilots and maintenance guys do not make those same mistakes.
One of the best examples were discussions on the Cougar S92 that went down off Newfoundland .... 18 dead ...... within 13 hours people here had pretty much nailed it ..... broken titanium studs on MRG oil filter housing.
It took 3 years for the official report to be released which confirmed the studs failing.
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md 600 driver
5th Jun 2018, 06:38
where there is a fatality there has to be a coroner's inquest for which every scrap of detail must be gathered. Remember the last time you got stuck in traffic because the road had been temporarily closed? Almost certainly a fatality involved. In this instance i think the coroner's inquest will open quite soon so that the human remains can be released but then adjourned until the aaib have done their stuff and issued their final report. For those that don't know the aaib will conduct an investigation that will forensically examine the entire flying and medical history of the pilot and the entire history of the aircraft as well as examining the weather, routing and any other relevant subjects.
and then cobble some story together from inaccurate information they have found somewhere that suits them
SASless
5th Jun 2018, 10:15
I agree ... at least as far as discussions here on this forum .... speculation and guesses (as to the cause) of any incident can be a healthy exercise that stretches our brain to consider all the possibilities ...... and so hopefully pilots and maintenance guys do not make those same mistakes.
One of the best examples were discussions on the Cougar S92 that went down off Newfoundland .... 18 dead ...... within 13 hours people here had pretty much nailed it ..... broken titanium studs on MRG oil filter housing.
It took 3 years for the official report to be released which confirmed the studs failing.
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They confirmed the Gearbox Oil Filter Studs had failed....and a lot of other additional factors that led to the Uncontrolled Ditching as well.
A lot of things were found to be duff in the actions of that day that followed on from the initial failure and from earlier on the design, testing, and certification of the aircraft
A lot of which is still being argued by pruners.