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TankerTrash
8th May 2018, 11:25
I've tried registering on AirMech.co.uk to ask this but their captcha has expired so you can't register, or contact them to tell them of the problem!

It seems that you can't study from scratch for a B3 in the UK as no 147 approved organisations are listed as having the B3 approved. I wish to go down this route, studying alongside my normal career (I also own a sub-2000kg aircraft).

Could you just study the overlap modules and then catch up on 7B, 9B, 11C and 17B when they become available at a 147 approved organisation? I guess it will take a while for the training industry to catch up with the B3.

Capot
8th May 2018, 13:54
You might find this website u (https://www.licencebypost.com/easa_part_66_licence.htm)seful. I was researching an answer when I came across it. Otherwise the CAA website seems to be saying that CAA International now run all their exams, including electronically, which would the the far end of a self-study programme.

Perhaps someone with more up-to-date knowledge can advise!

By the way, at least until recently there were two ways to study for and get a Part 66 AME licence.

Route 1 is an approved course, full-time, (1.5 - 2 years for B1.1) at a Part 147 MTO with that course in its capability. This course includes Practical Training and OJT, run by the MTO or under its direction. If no-one is offering B3, that's probably due to lack of demand and (in my experience) an obstructive, uninterested and ignorant UK CAA).

Route 2 is the self study route. You can take each Module separately, within a time limit to complete them all, until you have a Pass in the ones you need. (See Part 66 syllabus). You can sit the Module exams with the CAA, probably electronically (ie at a proctored centre, using a central question bank). That's where unapproved courses, such as LBP, can give you the study material and tuition that you need.

The difference, with B1.1 and I guess B3, is that Route 2 required a substantially longer work experience period than Route 1. On the other hand, you can be doing that work while studying for and passing the Modules. This is where military/other experience may help, so long as it is relevant to B3 tasks.

easaman
8th May 2018, 20:27
I've tried registering on AirMech.co.uk to ask this but their captcha has expired so you can't register, or contact them to tell them of the problem!

It seems that you can't study from scratch for a B3 in the UK as no 147 approved organisations are listed as having the B3 approved. I wish to go down this route, studying alongside my normal career (I also own a sub-2000kg aircraft).

Could you just study the overlap modules and then catch up on 7B, 9B, 11C and 17B when they become available at a 147 approved organisation? I guess it will take a while for the training industry to catch up with the B3.

I have had B3 exam preparation from the beginning of the B3 licence on. The problem is that there are more or less no exam places for the B3 licence. I have asked the UK-CAA if they are providing B3 exams (still waiting for the reply!).
I can re-install B3 modules 7B, 9B, 11C and 17B tomorrow on www.EASA66.com (http://www.EASA66.com) !
Please let me know where you want to take the exams.
easaman

PS: In the past I have recommended to go for a B1.2 licence. This is more or less the same study work, but it allows you to sign for airplanes that are over 2500kg. Flying clubs doing their own maintenace were doing that a lot!

BluFin
9th May 2018, 18:06
If your sub 1.1kg (ELA1) why not go B2L route in the shops soon or just do the B1.2

ericferret
13th May 2018, 09:34
Is that not apples and oranges, B2L is an avionics qualification.

Ultranomad
17th May 2018, 20:13
From the pragmatic point of view, it makes sense to sit the theory for B1.2 instead of B3. B1.2 theory is valid for the issuance of B3, but not vice versa (for some modules, there are more questions in B1.2 tests than B3 ones), so if you ever want to upgrade to B1.x, you will need to re-sit several modules.

BluFin
21st May 2018, 06:55
Is that not apples and oranges, B2L is an avionics qualification.

One of the Categories of the B2L is Airframe Systems, (EDIT) L licence options if you are mechanical for ELA 1, Ect

Emeroid Eng
22nd May 2018, 12:26
One of the Categories of the B2L is Airframe Systems

Can I ask where you found this info?
I've asked the CAA and they can't answer it

BluFin
27th May 2018, 19:00
Can I ask where you found this info?
I've asked the CAA and they can't answer it

Its available from the EASA web site as a download, its difficult to find. Dont forget the CAA can only answer something once it has passed (Done) in Brussles into regulation up till that point it all only opinion or proposed

BluFin
17th Aug 2018, 12:29
In Answer to the above question its now been done in Brussels on the 14th Aug 2018
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32018R1142&from=EN