FAA Medical in Melbourne

[The name is Porter]

Yes, have done a search. Possible to do an initial FAA medical in Australia?

Melbourne preferable but anywhere else?

Thanks

[pilotchute]

Dr Cann
(03) 90779997

Melbourne

Google is amazing!!

[no_one]

I did one in Sydney a few years ago. Easy and straightforward,you fill in the details online, the doc does their thing and adds their bit into the computer, they print and sign it and you have a medical....

The Link below lists 8 FAA of AMEs in Australia:

https://designee.faa.gov/NonFaaSecure/SearchResultList/SearchResultList?designeeTypeId=20

[The name is Porter]

Thankyou, appreciate it.

[bafanguy]

Yes, have done a search. Possible to do an initial FAA medical in Australia?

Melbourne preferable but anywhere else?

Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k

[Sandy Reith]

I did one in Sydney a few years ago. Easy and straightforward,you fill in the details online, the doc does their thing and adds their bit into the computer, they print and sign it and you have a medical....

This cannot possibly be true, it sounds far too easy, too sensible, efficient and probably not that costly.

Setting a very bad example to regulators everywhere and causing AVMED some blips to conscience, perhaps.

[no_one]

This cannot possibly be true, it sounds far too easy, too sensible, efficient and probably not that costly.

Setting a very bad example to regulators everywhere and causing AVMED some blips to conscience, perhaps.



I can t remember the cost. I don't think there was a fee to the FAA but the doc needed some $$$$...

[Sandy Reith]

You would have to wonder how many years for Parliament to wake up to the waste and mismanagement by CASA in it’s excruciating and costly methods. For myself it is particularly galling, almost every year there’s some glitch in obtaining my Class 2. Having many years ago had a medical op with no prior or post op problems affecting my fitness to fly, I’ve been required to extra expense every year. My GP gives me a clean report, my DAME has no problem. A former DAME told me that other pilots with worse histories than mine were getting two year Class 2s.
At long last CASA Director Shane Carmody is trying to ease the AVMED pain with some reforms which is welcome even with glaring flaws (i.e. not for NGT or IFR, therefore incentive to drop or not gain the higher qualifications).
This year my two months grace has run out again due to AVMED incompetence. So another waste of time and angst is in the offing.

[CHAIRMAN]

This year my two months grace has run out again due to AVMED incompetence. So another waste of time and angst is in the offing.
My 2 months runs out in 4 days - thanks for the reminder.
I'll chase them up tomorrow. I'm sure it's purely an oversight on their part:rolleyes:

[bafanguy]

I don't think there was a fee to the FAA but the doc needed some $$$$...

Correct, no FAA fee but doc cost varies from one to another at ~$200+/- perhaps slightly more if an EKG is required. Not a big expense as things go.

[Sandy Reith]

My 2 months runs out in 4 days - thanks for the reminder.
I'll chase them up tomorrow. I'm sure it's purely an oversight on their part:rolleyes:
CHAIRMAN, glad to help. I think CASA’s fees a fair comparison so I should adopt something similar. Probably about $185/hr these days, say minimum three hours consultation plus GST and data expenses would be ok. Let’s round it out to $600 which is only the cost of a couple of ASICS when its all said and done. Pretty reasonable wouldn’t you say?
When you consider the senior instructor near me who applied for a flying school AOC and had cough up $8000 up front just to lodge the application. Two years ago and still no joy, only wanted to restart a school that’s been going for at least 40 years in a regional centre.
A little off topic but everyone should be under no illusions of how dire is the state of GA. The new rules for flying schools have to be completed by August and numbers of the remaining few will fold because they are being required to employ extra staff for admin procedures mandated by the idiots in CASA.
Meanwhile Minister McCormack won’t be ‘rushed’ into agreeing with the most commonsense, simple and necessary amendment to the Act which would require CASA to consider viability in conjunction with safety. A first step towards halting the steepening decline of GA.

[parabellum]

Possible to do an initial FAA medical in Australia?

I see the words initial FAA medical . Not all AMEs are qualified to do the initial medical, only renewals, best to check before making firm arrangements.

[no_one]

I see the words initial FAA medical . Not all AMEs are qualified to do the initial medical, only renewals, best to check before making firm arrangements.


Are you sure you are not getting it mixed up with the need for a student pilot certificate? Previously the Doctor was able to issue a medical certificate that was combined with a student pilot certificate for an initial issue. Now you have to get a separate student pilot certificate from the FAA via a flight instructor. As far as I am aware the FAA don't make a distinction between a renewal and an initial issue as far as AME privileges and a quick search has turned nothing up.

[umop apisdn]

Don't go near Dr Cann in Melbourne, heard nothing but terrible stories revolving around incompetence and wait times. At least, make sure the FAA doctor you choose is listed on the FAA website so they can print your certificate immediately.

[parabellum]

Are you sure you are not getting it mixed up with the need for a student pilot certificate? Previously the Doctor was able to issue a medical certificate that was combined with a student pilot certificate for an initial issue. Now you have to get a separate student pilot certificate from the FAA via a flight instructor. As far as I am aware the FAA don't make a distinction between a renewal and an initial issue as far as AME privileges and a quick search has turned nothing up.
Never had any dealings with a Student Pilot's Certificate. My information is quite old, possibly out of date, but at one time the people who could do initial medical exams for licence purposes, outside the country of origin of the licence, was very limited, compared to renewals of foreign licences that many AME could do. For example, in the UK, for initial issue of licence the first medical was always done by the CAA. My AME in the UK could do the initial FAA because he was a Specialist in Aviation Medicine and cleared by the FAA to do so, he was one of only two or three so cleared, so I thought it might be wise for people to check.

[The name is Porter]

Yes, I'm talking initial in Australia. I'm about to be f@rked over again by CASA so want to swap to FAA. Convert all my stuff over

[QFF]

The UK CAA have an archaic system where an initial Class 1 applicant had to make the trek to the Aeromedical Centre (AMC) in Gatwick to go from room to room to undergo a battery of tests. Great fun if you lived in Scotland.

The FAA makes no distinction between initial and renewals. You either meet the standard or you don't. In the US, there are "regular" AMEs who can only do class 2 & 3 medicals and Senior AMEs who can also do class 1. International AMEs are automatically designated as Senior AMEs so they can all do all classes.

Re: student pilot/medical certificates - up until 2016, AMEs could issue a combined student pilot/medical certificate. That is no longer the case as student pilot certs have now been taken over by Flight Standards Service, which makes more sense.

[parabellum]

QFF - think you will find quite a few first world countries insist that the initial medical for the issue of the first licence is done by the regulating authorities own medical branch, 'archaic' or not. Designed to minimise the possibility of corruption/fiddling etc. the deliberate non disclosure of relevant medical history for example. You either meet the standard or you don't. yes, exactly that, the issuing authority take the full responsibility for just that.

[VFR-Seek and Destroy]

The UK CAA have an archaic system where an initial Class 1 applicant had to make the trek to the Aeromedical Centre (AMC) in Gatwick to go from room to room to undergo a battery of tests. Great fun if you lived in Scotland.


You have been out of the UK too long QFF.

The UK CAA stopped being the norm for issuing the initial class 1 medical a number of years ago.
IIRC under EASA it was not deemed appropriate for the Member Nations' National Aviation Authoritiy to be both the Regulator of a service and the provider of that same service.
It is now the responsibility of AMCs independent of the UK CAA to issue the initial class 1 medical.
https://www.caa.co.uk/Commercial-industry/Pilot-licences/Applications/Medical/Apply-for-a-Class-1-medical-certificate/
NATS initially were offering the service at their centre in Prestwick thereby saving applicants the journey to Gatwick but are no longer doing so.

Perhaps it is time for you to return to Scotland and say hello to some old faces.
I'm sure you would get a warm welcome ( even if it's "pure freezin' or baltic man oot-side" )

[Sandy Reith]

From the ‘subline’ to the ridiculous. Never mind the piston engines, what about the batteries? It was the practice to build them for the life of the sub, but then perhaps different batteries, now Li-on or some new experiment?? Maybe talk to Elon for a great deal.

I hear that in the US you can instruct flying in some cases without any aviation medical. It would make perfect sense if your student was solo or had a basic licence already. But to imagine sense or commonsense has any place in administration of aviation in Beauracratalia is to fly in the face of facts.

The Stockholm syndrome plays out so well, we get a whiff of Carmody’s medical reform ideas and isn’t that great ?Instructors might be able to work with a Class 2 medical, how wonderful. Does the same person drive a car to work or the DAME’s surgery? The whole set up is so stupid, you can’t help wondering when people will wake up to the current bureaucratic palace of fantasy, a colossal edifice of waste and mismanagement.

Treat aviation like other forms of transport, straightforward rules and then let people get on and make business and services. Common law and market economics, the latter much aided by the information revolution, will sort the details. Ring, write, email your federal MP and Senators is one necessary way if we are to achieve any sanity.