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The Pirate
4th May 2018, 07:27
Anyone know why an Emirates 380 has been parked at the end of 16 for the last two weeks?

TurningFinalRWY36
4th May 2018, 07:33
probably because emirates is running out of crew, parking up to ~45 aircraft over the next 3 months

ACMS
4th May 2018, 07:34
Between flights, quite common to see a wide body being parked at the northern Bravo run up bay during the day to get it off the Apron. Last week they had an EK A380 down the hangar taxiway W.
EK don’t do the Tasman shuttle anymore so one of their MEL 380’s sits around most of the day.

redkite1
4th May 2018, 08:35
probably because emirates is running out of crew, parking up to ~45 aircraft over the next 3 months

That 45 aircraft number is being bandied around based on a blogger who added up three individual months - May/June/July, this 45 number is just being kicked along as fact but it isn't. The actual highest number of aircraft being parked is in June - being approx 22.

kumul1
4th May 2018, 20:39
The daily Aukland runs from Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne are all being done by Qantas.
EK only does the Christchurch runs from Sydney.

4EvahLearning
5th May 2018, 02:03
That 45 aircraft number is being bandied around based on a blogger who added up three individual months - May/June/July, this 45 number is just being kicked along as fact but it isn't. The actual highest number of aircraft being parked is in June - being approx 22.

Finally, someone saw the problem with the math in that article....

pig dog
5th May 2018, 05:13
22 aircraft parked due crew shortages is still quite an alarming number. In a fleet of around 250 that represents 9% of their flying assets not earning any revenue.

Bend alot
5th May 2018, 05:31
22 aircraft parked due crew shortages is still quite an alarming number. In a fleet of around 250 that represents 9% of their flying assets not earning any revenue.


Is 22 crew shortage or for all reasons for being parked?

If for all reasons what is the past average of parked aircraft numbers?

https://jalopnik.com/watch-this-airbus-a380-get-a-heavy-maintenance-checkup-1660736071

55 x 55 A380,s is a fair number alone on ground if it is for all reasons.

SenZubEanS
8th May 2018, 12:45
That EK bird has been there a week continuously as best im aware, though i've only seen it between 1200 and 1900 hrs, unless it gets towed there before then and back after that timeframe, then it's been there the whole time.

PoppaJo
8th May 2018, 12:56
They have had a few long winded breakdowns in recent weeks causing a few overnights. Aside that you will see them parked for the entire daylight hours in eastern ports during Winter, they don’t depart between 7am-9pm because it doesn’t line up with the large European departure movements. Qatar and Etihad depart mid arvo, EK don’t.

They cut flights mid year every year due low season.

Derfred
8th May 2018, 13:03
If you add that to the number of EK380’s parked against the fence in Dubai, how many EK380’s are “effectively parked” when you include long term parking around the globe?

donpizmeov
8th May 2018, 16:26
6 EK 380s parked in May . Still deliveries arriving at the same time. These non flyers know how to run an airline.

Goat Whisperer
9th May 2018, 02:56
That EK bird has been there a week continuously as best im aware, though i've only seen it between 1200 and 1900 hrs, unless it gets towed there before then and back after that timeframe, then it's been there the whole time.

If you look a little closer, I reckon you'll see that its rego changes every day!

markis10
9th May 2018, 06:31
That EK bird has been there a week continuously as best im aware, though i've only seen it between 1200 and 1900 hrs, unless it gets towed there before then and back after that timeframe, then it's been there the whole time.

Everyday EK406 arrives at 5.30AM and departs as EK407 around 2130, and needs to park for the duration.

C441
9th May 2018, 10:39
Everyday EK406 arrives at 5.30AM and departs as EK407 around 2130, and needs to park for the duration.
….and terminal gates are a scarce commodity, particularly in the morning.

Over the last few weeks it has not been uncommon for aircraft up to A380 have been parked at the gates behind 9 & 11 and the pax bussed to the terminal - 400+ off the QF94 from LAX on at least 1 day last week.

Derfred
9th May 2018, 18:22
So parking for 16 hours per day, there’s two-thirds of an A380 parked against a fence unnoticed.

donpizmeov
9th May 2018, 19:28
It flies 28hrs in a 42hr period. Not too bad .

Contact Approach
9th May 2018, 20:11
Emirates is going down the pan.

msbbarratt
9th May 2018, 20:43
Everyday EK406 arrives at 5.30AM and departs as EK407 around 2130, and needs to park for the duration.


Just as a matter of interest, does the crew literally hand the keys to an A380 over to the valet parkers, saying "you break it, you've bought it" as they saunter off towards the hotel. having already taken a note of the mileage?

Hopefully the valet parkers on the air-side of the fence are better than the last lot I used at a passenger terminal.

Joint Usage?

05:30 to 21:30 sounds like quite a long time. One could imagine an innovative arrangement between EK and, say, Air New Zealand; while EK don't want it in the day, NZ could hire it to do a quick run across the sea and back to Sydney. EK get a bit of revenue, NZ can lay on a big amount of capacity to Oz without having to actually buy a plane.

markis10
9th May 2018, 20:51
Joint Usage?

05:30 to 21:30 sounds like quite a long time. One could imagine an innovative arrangement between EK and, say, Air New Zealand; while EK don't want it in the day, NZ could hire it to do a quick run across the sea and back to Sydney. EK get a bit of revenue, NZ can lay on a big amount of capacity to Oz without having to actually buy a plane.

EK used to do just that with QF from BNE SYD and MEL and it struggled to be profitable, it also made the trip down under a long one with two day breaks between segments.

CAR42ZE
10th May 2018, 00:05
Just as a matter of interest, does the crew literally hand the keys to an A380 over to the valet parkers, saying "you break it, you've bought it" as they saunter off towards the hotel. having already taken a note of the mileage?

Hopefully the valet parkers on the air-side of the fence are better than the last lot I used at a passenger terminal.

Keys and damage form are handed to the Emirates engineers. Unsure what the standard damage excess on a A380 is, it can't be pretty and I think the daily mileage allowance is quite low. Have you ever reverse parked an A380? Such a pain without rearview mirrors and no rear parking sensors. But anyway, they usually take good care of the old girl on the way to/from Bravo and back. Same with the support crew with the tug and stairs (Qantas/Aerocare?). It's much better down there out of the way than getting banged by tuckshop trucks and wayward pushbacks up at the terminal.

So what's the crew break in Melbourne? Are they back on duty on the next day flight, so in at 5am on Monday, fly out 9pm Tuesday? Or do they rock back up for the return flight the same day?

White Knight
10th May 2018, 19:40
If you add that to the number of EK380’s parked against the fence in Dubai

They are only parked against the fence in DXB while the gates at the terminals are occupied and then towed across as and when their assigned gates for the afternoon wave become available. Never let the truth Derfred get in the way of a good story. The stored machines are at DWC!

The EK 380 parked up at MEL out in the boonies for the day can be either the 404/405 airframe or the 406/407 as they both have long ground time in MEL.

Simple n'est pas?

cnsnz
10th May 2018, 21:09
I guess a USD1.1 Billion profit means they don't know what they are doing.