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valve guide
30th Apr 2018, 07:10
Need some help and advice. Currently own a R22 on G reg and do around 40/50 hours per annum. Now I don’t want to get into the argument about renting vs owning as I like the fact that I can walk out my farm and fly whenever I like, so.....I am thinking of upgrading to a R44 and wondered what currently would be the advantage, if any, of moving to the N reg. Since I only got privately is there a different category I could have the Heli in, do N reg have “ARC’s” and 6 monthly (for me 20 hours) services. So any advice or ideas of costs for a 22 or 44 would be really helpful. As I said, don’t want to get involved in the own vs rent. Thanks guys and gals.

chopjock
30th Apr 2018, 08:39
Well you may find it cheaper to insure on the N register as there is no 12% insurance premium tax...

206 jock
1st May 2018, 06:27
Just make sure you factor in all the costs before jumping to the N reg. The costs of maintaining the Trust can rack up: essentially, a non-US citizen cannot own a helicopter registered in the USA,so it has to be owned by a Trust registered in Delaware and companies set up to do this, charge you for the privilege. Get a quote from someone like Heritage.

I would be surprised if it made sense to transfer an a/c from EASA reg to the N and then run it. If you are thinking of importing from the USA, it might be different.

chopjock
1st May 2018, 08:44
Get a quote from someone like Heritage.
I would not recommend Heritage. They do not "trust" their punters and absolutely charge over the top for anything they can... I would recommend Southern Aircraft Consultancy.

RMK
1st May 2018, 15:15
a non-US citizen cannot own a helicopter registered in the USA,so it has to be owned by a Trust registered in Delaware and companies set up to do this, charge you for the privilege.

This will cost around $3000-$3500 per year plus initial setup costs

md 600 driver
1st May 2018, 22:20
RMK
I think you could knock a zero off that for trustee costs per year try southern aircraft consultancy they are £375 per year

i have had 3 n reg with them no problems

RMK
4th May 2018, 11:33
RMK
I think you could knock a zero off that for trustee costs per year try southern aircraft consultancy they are £375 per year

i have had 3 n reg with them no problems

That will be an "Umbrella Trust", they have one SPV and plug each "helicopter entity" under it as a segregated cell. Yes, can work fine, but may not work for some circumstances re tax/nationality/jurisdiction.

FSXPilot
4th May 2018, 13:04
Whilst there is no Robinson requirement for a 6 monthly there are Lycoming requiremetns for a 4 monthly oil change Lycoming SB480E. Do you already have an engineer in mind who has an FAA License or will you also need to look for a new engineer?

valve guide
5th May 2018, 05:46
Whilst there is no Robinson requirement for a 6 monthly there are Lycoming requiremetns for a 4 monthly oil change Lycoming SB480E. Do you already have an engineer in mind who has an FAA License or will you also need to look for a new engineer?

I don’t have anyone at the moment so will need to look for someone if I go down this route. A lot of people say it’s much easier in the States and just trying to see if it is for a private pilot.