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IBobi
23rd Apr 2018, 17:51
Hi all!

Please use this thread to ask questions and report any issues with the new mobile skin, photo uploader, or gallery tools.

Here are a few details and how-to's on uploading and viewing photos in the new galleries. (NOTE: you can still access all your existing photo galleries by bookmarking this link: PPRuNe Photo Gallery (https://www.pprune.org/members/albums.html))

Gallery Pages (Coming May 2018)

We're upgrading the gallery page to show you more photos all at once. You can now also browse by new options such as “Trending,””Recent,” “Commented,””Popular,” and your own “Albums.” This will allow you to have a custom experience with the new Gallery.

https://www.pprune.org/members/423202-ibobi-albums-ibobi-album-picture1165-2-pprune-gallery.png

On single photo pages you will see the photo you selected, but it's more than just that; you will also be able to discover related photos, comment, see trending pictures, and also see other photos in the same album.

https://www.pprune.org/members/423202-ibobi-albums-ibobi-album-picture1166-3-pprune-gallery-single-photo.png

Uploading photos to your Gallery Page

On the page with your albums and where you upload images, you can upload your photos in many ways:

1. Drag and drop photos directly onto the page
2. Upload your photo with a URL
3. Attach photos from your device

https://www.pprune.org/members/423202-ibobi-albums-ibobi-album-picture1167-4-pprune-gallery-upload-create-album.png

Photo Uploader (New!)

With the new uploader you can now upload your photos in more ways:

1. Drag and drop your photo (New!)
2. Select photos already uploaded to an album in the new gallery (New!)
3. Upload your photos with a URL (same as before)
4. Attach photos from your device (same as before)

https://www.pprune.org/members/423202-ibobi-albums-ibobi-album-picture1168-5-pprune-ufuploader-photo-upload.png

Uploading from your mobile phone (New!)

You can now use your phone's camera to upload a photo immediately after it's taken.

https://www.pprune.org/members/423202-ibobi-albums-ibobi-album-picture1170-7-pprune-ufuploader-mobile-upload.png

Arranging your photos

Once your photos are uploaded, you will be able to drag them around to rearrange them in the album, tag, and delete your photos. You can also "lock" your photos, which will prevent them from showing up in the public gallery. If you want more members to be able to enjoy your photos, leave them unlocked.

https://www.pprune.org/members/423202-ibobi-albums-ibobi-album-picture1169-6-pprune-ufuploader-photo-arrangement.png

Once the attachment process is completed, select the paperclip icon to show a dropdown menu with the option to paste your photos in-line within your post, making the user experience more efficient in adding and managing your photos from all device types.

MOBILE SKIN ENHANCEMENTS

In the NEW mobile skin, we have made it easier for you to navigate on the forums! For example, on the main forum page you will be able to expand and collapse forum headings to access subforums within (with out loading another page like before).

https://www.pprune.org/members/423202-ibobi-albums-ibobi-album-picture1171-8-mobile-skin.png

https://www.pprune.org/members/423202-ibobi-albums-ibobi-album-picture1172-9-mobile-skin.png

https://www.pprune.org/members/423202-ibobi-albums-ibobi-album-picture1174-11-mobile-skin.png

We’ve also made some improvements to the sub-forum pages where you can start browsing different threads in a much cleaner lay out with segmented color coded sections.

https://www.pprune.org/members/423202-ibobi-albums-ibobi-album-picture1173-10-mobile-skin.png

These changes are designed to be small, incremental improvements to make it easier to differentiate different types of forum text content, and make browsing easier on your mobile device.

Please let us know if you have any issues or concerns,

--Admin

Highway1
24th Apr 2018, 23:20
I like it - well done

IBobi
24th Apr 2018, 23:38
I like it - well done

gtt-2854 TEST

India Four Two
25th Apr 2018, 00:59
I have an issue with the new software.

I’m viewing on an iPhone 6S in landscape mode. About 15% of the right side of the screen is blank and as a consequence, the text is smaller than it used to be and therefore, more difficult to read than it used to be.

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 01:01
I have an issue with the new software.

I’m viewing on an iPhone 6S in landscape mode. About 15% of the right side of the screen is blank and as a consequence, the text is smaller than it used to be and therefore, more difficult to read than it used to be.


That space either should or will contain an ad. Yes the text is small on the desktop skin on a mobile device; please use the mobile skin. You can go to it by clicking the green button at the bottom of the page.

jolihokistix
25th Apr 2018, 01:41
Colourful!
Bombarded now with flickering ads down the right side; the page will not move or allow me to see anything until all the ads are in place, sometimes taking half a minute or more. Perhaps things will improve.

India Four Two
25th Apr 2018, 03:21
You can go to it by clicking the green button at the bottom of the page.

IBobi,

Thanks for the feedback, but I hate the mobile skin. I never use it. The old desktop skin was perfect on my iPhone.

RadarContactLost
25th Apr 2018, 04:59
IBobi,

Thanks for the feedback, but I hate the mobile skin. I never use it. The old desktop skin was perfect on my iPhone.


Concur. Why **** with something when it isn't broken???
I don't have a green button. I don't have any button to change skins. Pprune wasn't broken bedore, so why **** with it now???
Because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something! Pprune wasn't broken so why **** with it now???prune
worked fine and was used friendly, now it sucks. Stop ******* with something that works!I
rant over. You can ban me now.

DHfan
25th Apr 2018, 05:45
I thought my PC had gone mad...
I've got the PPrune header permanently at the top of the page when I scroll and it covers the forum 'list' at the top.
So far, seriously underwhelmed.

Pinky the pilot
25th Apr 2018, 06:16
About 15% of the right side of the screen is blank

Likewise on my desktop. And there is no section at the bottom of each page to click on to return to that particular forum index.

Agree with previous comments re Pprune not being broken, so why mess with it?

tdracer
25th Apr 2018, 06:20
Much, much slower on my computer, and hangs more often than the previous version...
Maybe I'll like it better when I get used to it, but so far I'm not a fan.

Ken Borough
25th Apr 2018, 06:39
Site is stuffed in my iPad. The ads on the RHS overwrite any enlarged text. Why fiddke wuth something that has survived the test of time?

oriental flyer
25th Apr 2018, 06:52
Sorry I don’t like it . When trying to post a url the cursor will not drop to the correct spot , it lodges all over the place in a random order . It may be better when done but right now it’s a mess . The display is different when using safari and chrome on the iPad , there does not seem to be an easy way to post pictures from third party hosting sites it’s just a mess at the moment

Roj approved
25th Apr 2018, 07:26
How do I get rid of the mid page adds?
im signed in, and they are super annoying

Busta
25th Apr 2018, 07:28
Lose the ADS

MPN11
25th Apr 2018, 08:10
I haven't done an in-depth nit-pick, but I like just about everything about it! I use the Desktop site on both my iMac and iPad, and only the annoying floating advert on the right side of the page on iPad causes me any grief.

Ah, If only the upgrade on FlyerTalk (also featuring IBobi as Administrator!) had been like this. There are several features of the presentation here that users are asking for on FlyerTalk, so far without success.

(Ah, just noticed the lack of Forum Jump option at the foot of the page, as noted upthread.)

taotoo
25th Apr 2018, 08:38
Looks good.

Please could all the thread titles' links have "new-post" appended before ".html". e.g.:

/rumours-news/608145-ultra-long-range-a350.html

becomes

/rumours-news/608145-ultra-long-range-a350-new-post.html

This ensures that when clicking a thread title it takes you to where you last left off.

Currently the links on some pages will take you to the beginning of the thread instead.

This might vary by theme.

ORAC
25th Apr 2018, 09:06
Real problems on my iPad. Issues with ads overlapping text, header bar remains over middle of page when scrolling - and I can see audio or video links on posts.

KelvinD
25th Apr 2018, 09:08
taotoo: I was just looking at that very thread (ultra-long-range-a350) and was surprised to see the page displays in the "old" format. Totally different to this one.

AndoniP
25th Apr 2018, 09:12
I don't like the way adverts are placed in the thread and separates messages. Can they not just be kept to the top and the side?

Wander00
25th Apr 2018, 09:42
Who did the upgrade, the same people who did TSB's site! Hopeless, slow, keeps saying "Pprune is not responding", so you click the button and waste another 2 or 3 minutes. Was not broke, why "fix" it

dogsridewith
25th Apr 2018, 10:05
Desktop here. Any way to get a less bright (less white) screen? Prior lists and threads were more yellow?
A large classic-car forum (V-Bulletin, I think.) did a format update, and one of the retained viewing options in the list at the lower left bottom of the home page is "Classic." Which seems similar to what PPrune had been, and what some would probably select if an option.

Fareastdriver
25th Apr 2018, 11:55
I have had to turn my monitor brightness because of the glare. One time to get back to the top of the page to change threads I had to scroll through the entire thread, God knows how many pages of it.

It's jumpy, keeps freezing and I don't like it.

DHfan
25th Apr 2018, 12:39
Sadly 'clean, modern look' seems to be the in phrase and happening to many sites these days. Translated it usually means acres of white space and large text.
IMHO, any software developer that even mentions it should be taken outside and shot - well, be sacked anyway.

Lonewolf_50
25th Apr 2018, 13:41
I clicked on this to see what it looks like, and I am now unable to revert to the skin I was using originally. (Default).
Where, in this mobile skin, is the button to select a different skin?
I am using IE on a PC.
EDIT
It gets worse. This is an edit. the tags for edit/reply/report are invisible. White on white. I was only able to guess that a tag was there by mousing over and hoping.
No user control panel access.
No tag/selection to "go to full site"
This is not an improvement.

Out Of Trim
25th Apr 2018, 14:15
I don't like the squashed text, due to the right hand Ad's margin on the right hand side. Which is pointless; as I block Ad's anyway! Now a very poor display! Well done Not!

VP959
25th Apr 2018, 14:31
I've left a page open for ten minutes or so trying to get a stuck script to complete, to no avail. What happens is that a script is trying to do something and can't, for some reason, so just displays a continuously rotating pair of black arrows on a white background underneath the last post, with that page then locked up, even when reloaded.

Here's a screen shot showing the problem; the round black arrows are continuously rotating clockwise, with no way out of it other then to log out and then back in again. Going back to that thread results in the same thing happening again at the bottom of the thread, locking it up again. It only seems to happen on some threads, AFAICS (it's not yet happening on this one, for example):

https://www.pprune.org/members/59439-vp959-albums-vps-photos-picture1181-stuck-script.jpg

MPN11
25th Apr 2018, 15:51
VP959 ... I’ve seen that. Undoubtedly an Advert with lots of .gif activity. The stuff site users aren’t supposed to post, IIRC.

VP959
25th Apr 2018, 16:56
VP959 ... I’ve seen that. Undoubtedly an Advert with lots of .gif activity. The stuff site users aren’t supposed to post, IIRC.

The snag is it seems to lock the page up, so if you want to reply it takes forever and a day for the reply button to come up, longer than I can be bothered to wait most of the time.

The other point is that some sub-forums are still in the old format, which seems really weird to me. It's as if parts of the forum are in one format and parts are in a completely different format. For example, Private Flying still seems to be in the old format, whilst this sub-forum is in the new format. Here's a screen shot taken a few minutes ago of the Private Flying sub-forum, showing it's still in the old format:

https://www.pprune.org/members/59439-vp959-albums-vps-photos-picture1182-pprune-old-format.jpg

VP959
25th Apr 2018, 18:06
The final "upgrade" introduced ads that followed you up and down the screen, so no matter if you you scrolled up or down the ad remained centre stage.


Something very similar happens when trying to use PPRuNe on an Android tablet with Firefox, except it's the title bar that stays in the centre of the screen whilst you can scroll stuff up and down behind it. The work around at the moment is:

1 - Stop trying to use a tablet to view PPRuNe, as it's just too much hassle.

2 - Scroll right down to the bottom of each page, when the title bar (which is a lot deeper than the old one) will eventually disappear (if you're lucky - this trick does not work on any thread with only a couple of replies to the initial post).

Overall, things seem to have got a LOT slower on Windows, virtually impossible on an iPad, a bit annoying on an Android tablet, but pretty much OK using Firefox on a Linux machine.

There is a heck of a lot more variability between different platforms than there used to be, I know not why, but it does seem that the new version hasn't been tested and debugged properly for use on a wide range of systems. What I find odd is that it seems to work best on a Linux box running Firefox. If anything I'd have expected it to run better under Windows, but Windows and Firefox seem to have a few issues, including the jump from the old to the new format from one sub-forum to another, the jumps in text size on the screen and the strange lock ups with whatever the script is that results in the rotating black arrows at the bottom of the screen, that stop you being able to reply to anything on that thread for around 10 minutes or so, when eventually the "reply" button row will appear.

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 18:12
Colourful!
Bombarded now with flickering ads down the right side; the page will not move or allow me to see anything until all the ads are in place, sometimes taking half a minute or more. Perhaps things will improve.

We're working on the long page loads, thanks for your patience.

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 18:16
I don't have a green button.

I'll log this bug with our techs.

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 18:18
I thought my PC had gone mad...
I've got the PPrune header permanently at the top of the page when I scroll and it covers the forum 'list' at the top.
So far, seriously underwhelmed.

It's called Infinite Scroll. You can turn it off:

https://www.pprune.org/pprune-problems-queries/608154-how-disable-infinite-scroll-return-old-pagination-style.html#post10129337

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 18:20
there is no section at the bottom of each page to click on to return to that particular forum index.


You can scroll to the top of the thread and click the "breadcrumb" to go to the index:https://www.pprune.org/images/misc/navbits_start.gif (https://www.pprune.org/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=10129463#) PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/) > Misc. Forums (https://www.pprune.org/misc-forums-4/) > Computer/Internet Issues & Troubleshooting (https://www.pprune.org/computer-internet-issues-troubleshooting-46/) > PPRuNe Problems or Queries (https://www.pprune.org/pprune-problems-queries-140/) > SOFTWARE UPDATE: New photo gallery, photo uploader, and mobile skin, April 23, 2018! (https://www.pprune.org/pprune-problems-queries/608111-software-update-new-photo-gallery-photo-uploader-mobile-skin-april-23-2018-a-post10129463.html#post10129463)https://www.pprune.org/images/misc/navbits_finallink_ltr.gif (https://www.pprune.org/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=10129463) > Reply to Thread


Or, you can click the FORUM JUMP button and select the forum whose index you want to see.

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 18:22
Site is stuffed in my iPad. The ads on the RHS overwrite any enlarged text. Why fiddke wuth something that has survived the test of time?

The mobile skin is optimized for mobile devices. If you zoom the full desktop on an mobile device you may experience issues. Recommend using mobile skin.

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 18:24
When trying to post a url the cursor will not drop to the correct spot , it lodges all over the place in a random order.

There does not seem to be an easy way to post pictures from third party hosting sites


Can you further explain the cursor issue you're having? Is this just on ipad?

As to posting photos, it is in fact much easier than before. Just click the little "picture" icon and follow the prompts. You can upload directly from your device's camera or library, or paste a link.

UPDATE: the new photo uploader is not yet on the site, but hopefully will be later today or tomorrow.

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 18:26
I haven't done an in-depth nit-pick, but I like just about everything about it! I use the Desktop site on both my iMac and iPad, and only the annoying floating advert on the right side of the page on iPad causes me any grief.

Ah, If only the upgrade on FlyerTalk (also featuring IBobi as Administrator!) had been like this. There are several features of the presentation here that users are asking for on FlyerTalk, so far without success.

(Ah, just noticed the lack of Forum Jump option at the foot of the page, as noted upthread.)

Thanks for the shout-out ;)

RE: FlyerTalk features, shoot me a PM as I'd like to hear what we have here that people want there.

Paul

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 18:34
Looks good.

Please could all the thread titles' links have "new-post" appended before ".html". e.g.:

/rumours-news/608145-ultra-long-range-a350.html

becomes

/rumours-news/608145-ultra-long-range-a350-new-post.html

This ensures that when clicking a thread title it takes you to where you last left off.

Currently the links on some pages will take you to the beginning of the thread instead.

This might vary by theme.

This is the new way the software handles this functionality. There is a "view first unread" link below each thread title. It's another click but you will get there.

And of course there's still the little down arrow next to the thread title so you can use to go straight to first unread from the forum menu.

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 18:36
Real problems on my iPad. Issues with ads overlapping text, header bar remains over middle of page when scrolling - and I can see audio or video links on posts.

Overlap issue already responded to -- please use the mobile skin.

Can you post a link to a post where the videos are missing?

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 18:43
I clicked on this to see what it looks like, and I am now unable to revert to the skin I was using originally. (Default).
Where, in this mobile skin, is the button to select a different skin?
I am using IE on a PC.

the tags for edit/reply/report are invisible. White on white. I was only able to guess that a tag was there by mousing over and hoping.
No user control panel access.
No tag/selection to "go to full site"
This is not an improvement.

You can try logging out/deleting cookies to go to the default skin. Mobile skin is not meant for desktop devices.

IBJoel
25th Apr 2018, 19:00
I've left a page open for ten minutes or so trying to get a stuck script to complete, to no avail. What happens is that a script is trying to do something and can't, for some reason, so just displays a continuously rotating pair of black arrows on a white background underneath the last post, with that page then locked up, even when reloaded.

Here's a screen shot showing the problem; the round black arrows are continuously rotating clockwise, with no way out of it other then to log out and then back in again. Going back to that thread results in the same thing happening again at the bottom of the thread, locking it up again. It only seems to happen on some threads, AFAICS (it's not yet happening on this one, for example):

https://www.pprune.org/members/59439-vp959-albums-vps-photos-picture1181-stuck-script.jpg
That can be fixed by disabling Infinite Scroll here: https://www.pprune.org/profile.php?do=editoptions
Be sure to hit save at the bottom.

taotoo
25th Apr 2018, 19:46
Thanks for the reply :ok:

This is the new way the software handles this functionality. There is a "view first unread" link below each thread title. It's another click but you will get there.

Unfortunately I don't think this link exists on the mobile theme.

And of course there's still the little down arrow next to the thread title so you can use to go straight to first unread from the forum menu.

Never noticed that before - I guess that will do the job, thanks.

(Incidentally, the thread title links on the home page still function as before - I don't know if there's any chance of copying the code from there).

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 20:22
Unfortunately I don't think this link exists on the mobile theme.


(Incidentally, the thread title links on the home page still function as before - I don't know if there's any chance of copying the code from there).

The FIRST UNREAD link is there on mobile. The only time you may not see it is if there are no unread posts in that thread.

Unfortunately the code is set and can't be customized.

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 20:57
. I don't have any button to change skins.

When you are on desktop skin on mobile device, the button is green at the bottom.

When you are on mobile skin, the toggle is in the menu at the top left (it says VIEW FULL SITE).

shortshortz
25th Apr 2018, 20:57
Good update

Can you add a like button to posts?
It would save time skimming through posts when the majority are meaningless.
The total "likes" someone gets can then be seen meaning people actually try and post factual/meaningful messages.
The idea is from the forum HotCopper. It works well

Roj approved
25th Apr 2018, 21:19
The advertisements suck!!!

i understand that’s how you get your revenue, but it has rendered the site almost unreadable on a phone, and not much better on an iPad, due to the text being squeezed by the ads on the right, and they seem to be .gif based, so they slow everything down, and are super distracting. The mid thread ads are the same.

Seriously, a terrible update.

And please, a like/dislike button would be the best addition.

No green button here either

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 21:50
Good update

Can you add a like button to posts?
It would save time skimming through posts when the majority are meaningless.
The total "likes" someone gets can then be seen meaning people actually try and post factual/meaningful messages.
The idea is from the forum HotCopper. It works well

Working on a "like" button...

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 21:51
And please, a like/dislike button would be the best addition.

No green button here either

Working on a "like" button...

To view the full desktop site, got o the menu top left and select VIEW FULL SITE

Ant6747
25th Apr 2018, 22:03
This update is rubbish! The screen is that bright my eyes hurt reading it, please tone down the brightness or give the option of a non white background. Intrusive adverts everywhere taking up the right hand side of the screen. Posts taking ages to appear when scrolling. Another case of fixing something that wasn’t broken! Can you give us the option to use the old layout that was easy to read.

Highway1
25th Apr 2018, 22:34
This update is rubbish! The screen is that bright my eyes hurt reading it, please tone down the brightness or give the option of a non white background.

On the front page go right to the bottom and select 'Default Style' - then select under 'ClassicNextgen Styles' '--Default Style'. This will give you a toned down blue/gray color scheme

https://www.pprune.org/members/475048-highway1-albums-pics-picture1184-screenshot-2018-04-25-16-28-16.png

DHfan
25th Apr 2018, 23:04
It's called Infinite Scroll. You can turn it off:

https://www.pprune.org/pprune-problems-queries/608154-how-disable-infinite-scroll-return-old-pagination-style.html#post10129337

Thanks, done that.

On the front page go right to the bottom and select 'Default Style' - then select under 'ClassicNextgen Styles' '--Default Style'. This will give you a toned down blue/gray color scheme

Thanks, done that too. It looks odd with no yellow but overall less garish.

I realise everything is done with the best intentions, but IMO, software updates are never actually "better", they just have more bells and whistles to add to the ones I didn't use before the update...

Carbon Bootprint
25th Apr 2018, 23:38
How does one change the font size when composing a message?

IBobi
25th Apr 2018, 23:43
How does one change the font size when composing a message?

You can't right now. Future update.

Roj approved
26th Apr 2018, 00:21
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IBobi
26th Apr 2018, 00:26
Nope, can’t find the option at the “top left” to VIEW FULL SITE


Could you screenshot where it is supposed to be please?
It's in the "hamburger menu" the 3 horizontal lines...

India Four Two
26th Apr 2018, 00:47
I can get used to the new mobile site, but I have one suggestion. Please add the number of views. At the moment I can only see number of posts. IPhone Safari.

Lonewolf_50
26th Apr 2018, 00:56
You can try logging out/deleting cookies to go to the default skin. Mobile skin is not meant for desktop devices.
I already tried that twice before making the complaint.
(Currently on a different machine in chrome)
So, how do I get that other machine to not come up with the mobile skin.
The failure of design is that you can choose it but not choose out of it.
Also, failure to be able to access PM's in that mode.
Why is it that a user can select it but, once in, has no choice to get out? When a UI is designed with pull down options, normally, the option is available when the other mode is chosen.

Pinky the pilot
26th Apr 2018, 01:56
You can scroll to the top of the thread and click the "breadcrumb" to go to the index:

Or, you can click the FORUM JUMP button and select the forum whose index you want to see.

And this is better than the previous way?

Concur with a poster above, this update is rubbish!:ugh:

VP959
26th Apr 2018, 06:34
That can be fixed by disabling Infinite Scroll here: https://www.pprune.org/profile.php?do=editoptions
Be sure to hit save at the bottom.

Thanks, that's one snag fixed, at least on a machine running Linux and Firefox!

I'll try and do some more work on seeing how to get PPRuNe to work properly on a large screen tablet later. Unfortunately, the mobile skin is pretty dire on a big screen; it seems optimised for those using a 'phone, and somehow the forum seems to think that large screen format tablets are phones, perhaps because it just (wrongly) assumes that any device that's not running a desktop operating system must be a phone. I can manually switch my tablet to always load the "full fat" version of the site, but that then has problems with the way stuff is formatted on screen. If I find a fix I'll flag it back here.

Some pages are still taking forever and a day to load now; but part of that may be down to the new version waiting until all the graphics in the ads etc have loaded. Looking at the scripts that are slowing things up it seems that they are all links to ad servers, so my guess is that some of the site advertisers content may be now causing some of the issues being reported. Not sure why this should happen now, when it didn't happen with the old version, but could it be connected with where the ads are on each page?

Seems possible, as the slowest pages to load (so slow that I've given up trying to view them several times now) are the ones where ads appear between posts.

I hate to say this, but I would guess that if this is the problem then some may well choose to just ad block PPRuNe. I'm ad blocking it now, even though I know the forum has to generate revenue to exist, and I've been around here long enough to really want to keep PPRuNe going, just because without the ads blocked things are just far to slow to be usable.

Ivor Fynn
26th Apr 2018, 09:12
Dreadful! Way to many adds, I have had to invest in an add blocker.

Ivor

come back Danny all is forgiven😎

Pinky the pilot
26th Apr 2018, 10:36
I have now disabled the 'infinite scroll' and find that the pages load a bit faster. Also selected the ClassicNext Gen default and viewing is a lot easier on the eyes.
Ever since I had cataract surgery in both eyes I cannot handle any glare! Hurts like b*****y!

And I see that the old style Forum Jump selector has returned to the bottom of every page.

Now, can we do something about the blank RHS of the page?

Bull at a Gate
26th Apr 2018, 12:17
Pinky, ironically there is no forum jump for me at the bottom of this page.

dogsridewith
26th Apr 2018, 13:32
Yes. Sort of re: "...the ClassicNext Gen default and viewing is a lot easier on the eyes."
But the font size variations, including tiny faint letters in shades of grey, blue and white, and a gigantic black thread title impair reading, Did an interior designer or something create this? Anyone that reads? Or maybe it is to strategically emphasize the prominent ads in brilliant colors?
Ask V-Bulletin how to show a black font select button somewhere.
(On this modern wide ratio desktop screen, the right margin ad is not taking up much width. So the lines of text run through an unusually wide viewing angle. This might be improved by dropping the basic monitor scale percent viewing number...but then the smaller font texts would be hard to see.)

MPN11
26th Apr 2018, 15:02
Thanks for the shout-out ;)
RE: FlyerTalk features, shoot me a PM as I'd like to hear what we have here that people want there.
PaulDone, Sir! :ok:

IBJoel
26th Apr 2018, 16:32
I already tried that twice before making the complaint.
(Currently on a different machine in chrome)
So, how do I get that other machine to not come up with the mobile skin.
The failure of design is that you can choose it but not choose out of it.
Also, failure to be able to access PM's in that mode.
Why is it that a user can select it but, once in, has no choice to get out? When a UI is designed with pull down options, normally, the option is available when the other mode is chosen.

You SHOULD be good now.

IBJoel
26th Apr 2018, 17:28
Pinky, ironically there is no forum jump for me at the bottom of this page.

Are you using desktop view on a mobile device?

MPN11
26th Apr 2018, 18:09
Are you using desktop view on a mobile device?
I am (iPad/Safari) on the PPRuNe Mobile skin, and the Forum Jump is there.

raven11
26th Apr 2018, 20:49
Not a fan of the new format.
Use my iPad 99% of the time and find the new format cumbersome. When expanding text the ads keep blocking the text...
Would prefer a link to the old version.

snooky
27th Apr 2018, 07:51
This is awful on my i pad, a real shame as I have enjoyed pprune for many years but really can't use it now.

Pinky the pilot
27th Apr 2018, 08:00
Pinky, ironically there is no forum jump for me at the bottom of this page.

Hmm, most odd. Certainly is on mine, just to the right of the Posting rules thingy and directly above the 'All times are....' bit.

Have you disabled the 'infinite scroll?'

S'land
27th Apr 2018, 11:31
The new system on the desktop version is slower to load, has an annoying moving header and equally annoying scroll down pages. I seems that everything has to wait for the advertising to load before one can see the posts.

The smartphone version is a complete waste of time. I have spent two days trying to get into the system – all to no avail. There does not seem to be a way of signing into the system on my android.

I agree with some of the earlier posters – if something is not broken, why fix it.

VP959
27th Apr 2018, 16:49
The new system on the desktop version is slower to load, has an annoying moving header and equally annoying scroll down pages. I seems that everything has to wait for the advertising to load before one can see the posts.

The smartphone version is a complete waste of time. I have spent two days trying to get into the system – all to no avail. There does not seem to be a way of signing into the system on my android.

I agree with some of the earlier posters – if something is not broken, why fix it.

Some of the tips already given help a bit. Sadly, the slow page loading problem seems to be, at least partly, because of the way the site now handles and places ads, so the only real fix right now is to install an adblocker to your browser. I don't like suggesting this, as it's ads that pay for this forum, but it really seems to be the only way for some of us to get reasonably fast page loads, without things hanging up.

Some of the other suggestions that work well are to disable infinite scrolling (which seems to fix the problem with overlapping header text, at least on a desktop machine) and to change the default style to ClassicNextGen, which seems a bit easier on the eye, but doesn't have a very high contrast ratio.

I can't find a fix for the font size issues, other than zooming the whole page in or out, which isn't really practical. Ideally, it would be nice to be able to set the main text font size to be a little larger, or decrease the font sizes of the header stuff, and it would be nice to try and get a bit better contrast.

500e
27th Apr 2018, 18:34
IBobi Try talking to the people on "Rotary Wings" forum they have lost a sizable portion of their posters due to the same type of upgrade?? the old system worked fairly well why mess with things that work.
The try this try that is annoying & suggests desperation, either it works or it is not fit for use, the problems require sorting not sugestions

Nigerian Expat Outlaw
27th Apr 2018, 19:08
I can't see any photographs since the upgrade ? Do I need to adjust something ?

NEO

IBobi
27th Apr 2018, 19:29
Not a fan of the new format.
Use my iPad 99% of the time and find the new format cumbersome. When expanding text the ads keep blocking the text...
Would prefer a link to the old version.

If you use the full desktop site on ipad, this will happen if you zoom.

Recommend either not zooming, not using ipad, or DO use the mobile-optimized skin.

IBobi
27th Apr 2018, 19:30
The new system on the desktop version is slower to load, has an annoying moving header and equally annoying scroll down pages. I seems that everything has to wait for the advertising to load before one can see the posts.

The smartphone version is a complete waste of time. I have spent two days trying to get into the system – all to no avail. There does not seem to be a way of signing into the system on my android.

I agree with some of the earlier posters – if something is not broken, why fix it.

What issues are you having signing in on mobile skin? There is a "hamburger" menu at top left, click that and click LOG IN.

IBobi
27th Apr 2018, 19:31
I can't see any photographs since the upgrade ? Do I need to adjust something ?

NEO
Post a link please to a post where you are not seeing photos that should be there.

triadic
28th Apr 2018, 01:32
If you use the full desktop site on ipad, this will happen if you zoom.

Recommend either not zooming, not using ipad, or DO use the mobile-optimized skin.

Have to agree that the new site is quite poor in a number of areas. On the iPad I have to zoom just to read the text but that does not work as the ad's then block the text. Don't even ask about use on the iPhone!! Can we get rid of the side ad's as they only serve to squeeze the page that we are trying to read. On the other ad's in the middle, can you place a bar or something on the side that indicates that there is more below the ad. One often gets to the ad and you go no further thinking it is the end of the discussion (??) As for the green button - never seen it on either pc or mobile device? What is that all about? An option to go back to the old format would be good for us oldies! I have been a member for many years and it is close now to having me walk away. Good work NOT!

boguing
28th Apr 2018, 08:45
I like it, but have a suggestion for an improvement...

Either do as some newer forums do and make the action of clicking directly on the thread title take the user direct to the first unread post, OR make the little blue button much bigger. I use a pc or big tablet (in desktop mode) and the blue button is a bit on the small side to use with a mouse, let alone a fat finger on a pad.

Nigerian Expat Outlaw
28th Apr 2018, 09:46
Post a link please to a post where you are not seeing photos that should be there.

Don't know how to do that I'm afraid. It's the Photos from the Top of the World thread in Rotorheads that alerted me, but I'm not seeing any photos at all.

Thanks for your help.

NEO

VP959
28th Apr 2018, 10:18
If you use the full desktop site on ipad, this will happen if you zoom.

Recommend either not zooming, not using ipad, or DO use the mobile-optimized skin.

The mobile-optimised skin is pretty grim on a large format tablet, as it seems optimised for smaller mobile devices, so is not, IMHO, a viable option for those of us who use such devices. I've just given up trying to get the forum to work on my large format tablet for this reason. My guess is that the same may apply to those using larger iPads.

My tablet browser (Firefox) is set to ignore the mobile versions of sites, because, without exception, they don't look good or work properly on a big screen. The big screen version of this forum used to work fine on my tablet until the upgrade, but now suffers from text in posts that is very hard to read. I'm currently typing this on a PC with a 24" screen and the text size in posts is pretty damned small, too, and my near-vision is pretty damned good!

I've just done a comparison with a Word document loaded at full screen, and the text size in this box I'm typing in is roughly midway between 8 point and 9 point, which is pretty damned small. Around 10 to 11 point is about my preferred text size, accepting that there may be a scaling factor involved with differing screen resolutions.

Bull at a Gate
29th Apr 2018, 06:58
Forum jump has returned (for me anyway).

Does anyone actually like the mobile format? Does anyone actually use it?

And for the first time since starting on pprune I am now using an ad blocker. How ironic, the change to make ads more prominent has caused me, and others from what I see posted, to block all ads. How can this be good for the owners of the site?

Nigerian Expat Outlaw
30th Apr 2018, 10:19
Still no photos on the Top of the World thread in Rotorheads. Weird.

NEO

S'land
30th Apr 2018, 10:59
What issues are you having signing in on mobile skin? There is a "hamburger" menu at top left, click that and click LOG IN.

This morning, for the first time, I managed to login. I was not able to do so until some of the adverts had loaded.This took nearly 15 minutes. When I got to the log in page the blessed floating header kept getting in the way. It took me another ten minutes to manipulate the header out of the way of the user name and password boxes. Once logged in the header kept getting in the way and I had to log out or go mad. I logged out.

I usually only go onto the internet with my laptop a couple of times a week. In the past I have been able to view the site on my handy without problems. From now on i will have to limit the amount of time I spend on Pprune.

cappt
30th Apr 2018, 14:42
Ads, ads, ads crawling all over, playing video ads slowing down my IPad. I hate it. Good luck with it all.

atakacs
30th Apr 2018, 21:29
And for the first time since starting on pprune I am now using an ad blocker. How ironic, the change to make ads more prominent has caused me, and others from what I see posted, to block all ads. How can this be good for the owners of the site?
Same here.

The site is simply unusable otherwise. Absolute disaster IMHO.

I can understand the need to raise some revenue but this is just crazy.

Packer27L
1st May 2018, 13:00
Please let us know if you have any issues or concerns,
All looks good, my only issue is I browse the site both on my phone and my computer, however I can only choose one skin - is there a way around this?

IBJoel
1st May 2018, 17:28
Don't know how to do that I'm afraid. It's the Photos from the Top of the World thread in Rotorheads that alerted me, but I'm not seeing any photos at all.

Thanks for your help.

NEO

These ones are looking OK to me. Are you on mobile?
https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/483614-top-world-photos-nepal-256.html

IBJoel
1st May 2018, 17:33
All looks good, my only issue is I browse the site both on my phone and my computer, however I can only choose one skin - is there a way around this?

In what way do you mean? I am able to run normal, Infinite-Scroll-disabled on my desktop and mobile with IS on my phone.

Packer27L
1st May 2018, 19:56
In what way do you mean? I am able to run normal, Infinite-Scroll-disabled on my desktop and mobile with IS on my phone.
Ah, disregard, just found the "view full site" option on my computer. It's all good now.

BEagle
2nd May 2018, 07:04
The infuriating plethora of adverts on PPRuNe is ruining the site.

Please STOP the adverts inserted into the body of threads and get rid of the right hand side panel adverts!

IB should remember what happened to the goose which laid golden eggs.... A tale of greed.

SARF
2nd May 2018, 16:33
Terrible on my iPad. I Still keep,scrolling up to get to the tops of,the page !
Adverts shocking

IBJoel
2nd May 2018, 17:15
Terrible on my iPad. I Still keep,scrolling up to get to the tops of,the page !
Adverts shocking

We are working on resolving layout on iPad.

Dufo
2nd May 2018, 20:30
New layout is horribly slow and jerky. Completely unresponsive until all the ads load.
Is there a way to get rid of the bottom navigation bar?

IBobi
2nd May 2018, 20:42
New layout is horribly slow and jerky. Completely unresponsive until all the ads load.
Is there a way to get rid of the bottom navigation bar?
Go to usercp, edit options, disable infinite scroll.

triadic
3rd May 2018, 04:06
For us non IT folk.... what is infinite scroll?

No sign of any mention of it in my edit options!!

Nigerian Expat Outlaw
3rd May 2018, 21:51
These ones are looking OK to me. Are you on mobile?
https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/483614-top-world-photos-nepal-256.html

Nothing showing for me.

I'm using Pprune Ng.

NEO

Capn Bloggs
4th May 2018, 07:40
I can't find the text size option in the thread typing mode...

Avtur
4th May 2018, 16:56
I thought something had gone wrong with the site, but now realise that you have changed it...for the worse. Very, very slow, presumably because of the numerous annoying ads that are now cluttering up every available space.

As people are saying, it wasn't broken so why fix it, and I totally agree. Your changes are a backward step. Oh, and get rid of the ads. Thanks.

Can we consider this to be a trial (that failed), and that you will revert to previous in the near future?

IBobi
4th May 2018, 19:03
For us non IT folk.... what is infinite scroll?

No sign of any mention of it in my edit options!!
It organizes pages into one long scroll instead of page 1,2,3...

IBobi
4th May 2018, 19:03
I can't find the text size option in the thread typing mode...
At the moment there isn't one.

IBobi
4th May 2018, 19:05
Nothing showing for me.

I'm using Pprune Ng.

NEO
1. Clear your cache
2. Turn off ad block
3. Still having issues? Let us know what device, browser and skin you're using. Maybe provide a screen shot of the blank posts.

VP959
4th May 2018, 20:27
OK, something really weird has just happened. I've just logged on again from a Linux machine, and now the forum looks the same on screen no matter what style I set. This is a laptop, running Linux and Firefox, and had been fine until now. Now it's defaulted to the Mobile skin, for reasons unknown. I tried to change to the style I'd previously set, Next Gen Classic, yet there was no change - it's still in the Mobile style, although it's telling me now that it's not, the screen has reverted to the colour scheme of the mobile style, with all the usual hassles that gives on a conventional wide screen..........

Edited to add:

I've tried two different browsers, both are giving the same result - defaulting to the mobile style and if I try to change styles the only three choices show as:

Standard Styles:
PPRuNe Mobile

Mobile Styles:
PPRuNe Mobile

ClassicNextGen Styles:
PPRuNe NG

The "classic" style without the garish yellow has disappeared as an option, the default is the mobile style, which looks as is somehow something has changed in the past hour that has caused the forum to mistake Linux as if it's a mobile operating system (the same problem I continue to have with a large screen tablet).

As background, this is an Intel i7 mobile, running Linux Mint 18.3 and the problem is the same with either Firefox or PaleMoon browsers.

Next move will be to see if the forum actually works properly on Windows, but that can wait, I've wasted an hour trying to get things back to the way they were, so will have to look at this gain in the morning. I may try logging out, deleting all PPRuNe cookies and, trying yet again to get things back to a semblance of normality.

Edited again to add:

Logging out, manually clearing all the PPRuNe cookies, closing Firefox, restarting it, going to PPRuNe and logging in again results in the view defaulting to the mobile style. If I change the style, the only option available is PPRuNe NG, and that has the very garish yellow bands, text issues etc, that were previously fixed by switching the default style. Somehow that option has now gone...............

IBobi
4th May 2018, 22:13
That all looks as-designed to me. The proper style for a laptop would be PPRuNe NG.

DHfan
4th May 2018, 23:44
In whose opinion?
I usually view the forum on a desktop with a 19" 4:3 monitor. Very rarely - 5 minutes ago being the last time to see what happened - I view it on a 15" 4:3 laptop.
Why should they have compulsory different viewing settings?

Before anybody says it's my fault for using old technology, I never watch films, TV or any other media on a PC or laptop so a widescreen is useless and inconvenient to me. That's why I've got an old laptop and am seriously considering buying a spare monitor in case this one dies.

IBobi
4th May 2018, 23:46
Same setting for laptop or desktop.

DHfan
4th May 2018, 23:47
Desktop settings not available on the laptop - I tried - not there, mobile only.

IBobi
5th May 2018, 00:04
Desktop settings not available on the laptop - I tried - not there, mobile only.
You can't set the page to PPRuNe NG?

cogwheel
5th May 2018, 04:51
What is a hamburger menu? Pleas talk in English, not IT speak. Thank you.

This new format is the Pitts!!

VP959
5th May 2018, 08:46
That all looks as-designed to me. The proper style for a laptop would be PPRuNe NG.

But what changed last night?

The site view I had until around 20:00 GMT was the one I've managed to get to look half decent, with the VBulletin logo at the top left, no garish yellow bars, no scrolling problems, and overall is was reasonably OK. Now that style has gone, and even on this Windows machine, with Firefox as the browser, I have the default view as being the mobile one (which looks daft on a 24" screen) and the only option I have in the user CP is to switch to the "PPRuNe NG" style, which used to fix all the visual problems, but now is back with the bright yellow bars and the very garish colour scheme, that's a bit hard on the eyes, if I'm honest.

Is it possible to just restore the style to the way it was before the change last night, please, at least as an option?

The only options I seem to have now are the mobile version, or the garish version with the yellow bars that was the default for a non-mobile device immediately after the update, whereas until last night there was an option (which I'd selected) for a more muted colour scheme, that as well as being easier on the eye was also a fair bit faster. The only non-mobile version that's now available is the original one from immediately after the update, with the garish bars, jerky scrolling, etc, something we'd been able to opt out of (thanks to your help and advice) by going to the User CP and changing the default style. It looks like the style that's now called PPRuNe NG is really the same as the default style that was introduced with the update, and there are no other choices of style available.

Pinky the pilot
5th May 2018, 11:01
Well, we're up to page 6 here now, and page 7 on Jet Blast re this subject, and the way I read it, a fair majority do not like the 'new' PPRuNe and would prefer the old version.
At the risk of making myself somewhat unpopular in certain circles;

IBobi; You got the message yet, Mate?:=
.

DHfan
5th May 2018, 11:11
You can't set the page to PPRuNe NG?

Yes, but why would I want that? It's the garish white and yellow I changed away from as soon as you explained how to on the desktop.

VP959
5th May 2018, 12:12
Yes, but why would I want that? It's the garish white and yellow I changed away from as soon as you explained how to on the desktop.

I'm glad it's not just me that's experienced this change; I must have tried everything already listed at least twice to get the forum looking like it did before yesterday's change, all to no avail. It still defaults to the mobile style on non-mobile devices that don't happen to be running Windows. I've been right back through this thread, and whereas doing as suggested in this post: https://www.pprune.org/pprune-problems-queries/608111-software-update-new-photo-gallery-photo-uploader-mobile-skin-april-23-2018-a-2.html#post10130220 used to do exactly as it says, offer two options, the first under the "ClassicNextGen Styles" option being "Default Style" (which returned the screen to a watchable, toned down blue/grey colour scheme), but that option has now been removed, and the only option available is the very garish "PPRuNe NG", which is frankly pretty dire, IMHO.

It looks as if something has been changed in the last 24 hours to remove that "Default Style" from the selections available for some reason, may be by accident, may be by intent (although I can't see a good reason for removing a pretty good style option).

So, is there any chance that the "Default Style" can be put back as an option, please? By all means leave the initial default as PPRuNe NG (for those not using the mobile style), so that users have to physically go into the User CP to change to the style they prefer, but I can't see any harm in allowing that, it can only be a good thing for users to have this option back.

underfire
5th May 2018, 15:31
why is it copyright 2012?

VP959
5th May 2018, 18:14
why is it copyright 2012?

TBH, I don't know. I'm an admin on another forum (which admittedly doesn't run on VBulletin - sorry Internet Brands, I know you also own VBulletin....) but I'm reasonably familiar with the way the VBulletin Admin CP works, as it's not a lot different from the other forum software as far as the basics are concerned. Updating the copyright dates should be an automatic option, selectable from the Admin CP, much like the other issue of allowing the User CP to be able to select a range of styles (and from reading the VBulletin forum it's clear that the Admin CP allows a range of styles to be offered via the User CP).

My guess is that it's just something that's been overlooked during the update, something that I know can be a bit of a fraught process.

DHfan
5th May 2018, 20:23
I noticed that the yellow had reappeared on the page.
I now notice that both my desktop and laptop say they're using the PPrune Mobile layout.
Sheer genius...

VP959
5th May 2018, 20:59
The problem seems to be that the forum software is struggling to determine whether members are using a mobile device with a small screen, like a 'phone running Android or iOS, or they are using a laptop, tablet or desktop PC that's running with a larger screen.

To be fair, this is a problem that isn't unique to VBulletin, or many web sites. It seems that some sites (sadly including this one now) use a flawed technique for determining whether or not to use the mobile format or the desktop format. The problem isn't an easy one to fix, as some mobile devices have high resolution screens, even though they are small, so the two techniques that used to be used to identify a mobile device, and so use the mobile style, can be unreliable.

The problem is compounded by Android really being a Google version of Linux, but with some non-open source Google proprietary code, so it's possible that any device running Linux could be confused for one running Android. Add in that the screen resolution of some mobile devices can exceed that of some desktop, or laptop, machines, and even the normally reported data that is always sent back to the servers of any website (that give the OS, browser, screen resolution etc, of the users device) gets pretty difficult to interpret.

This is far from being just a problem for forums, it's a challenge that loads of websites struggle with getting right. Some just cheat a bit, and do as the BBC News site does, and format the site so that it has wide white bands down either side when viewed on a large screen device, just to better fit the portrait format of mobile phones. Some take the more logical step of using a different URL for the mobile version (often with /m/ in the URL) so that users can choose as to whether to access the mobile version or the desktop/laptop/large screen tablet version. Most problems seem to be when websites try to automatically detect a mobile device, and just serve up different site format based on that guesstimate as to what the device really needs in order to have an acceptable look and usability.

cowl flaps
6th May 2018, 14:30
What's going on with this crap new software ??
OK, I can copy and paste an image now,- great, but it tells me ERROR:- 'The text that you have entered is too long (396474 characters). Please shorten it to 30000 characters long."
So I leave the image and even delete ALL text thinking I'll edit it to add text, and it still tells me:- 'The text that you have entered is too long (396474 characters). Please shorten it to 30000 characters long.'

The old software wasn't broken. Why change it !!

Lonewolf_50
7th May 2018, 13:42
You can't set the page to PPRuNe NG?
I can't either.
Also, am unable to locate the log in/log out button in order to log out.
In my various attempts to get back to the default, rather than this app thing, not being able to log out is added to my function failures.
Browser information: IE 11; Version 11.483.15063.0CO; 11.0.44(KB4025252)
https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/608553-air-france-ropes-again.html#post10140331
I was able to reply to a post. When so doing, I selected my name but found no way to log out from PPRuNe.

Wander00
7th May 2018, 19:22
Well, no page option on this infinitely long Dead Sea Scroll. Took 6 minutes to get down to here, probably designed to dissuade us from commenting. Typing takes an age, you have to stop hitting the keys to give the text time to catch up. Love the content but this TSB style upgrade is the pits. Adverts now get in the way, take forever to load too, and are very distracting. Should have all been sorted, like TSB, before going live. Upgrade not been run by 2 FTS has it. JOKE!! The of course it may all have been designed by IT whizz kids with latest technology, not us old buffers on W7 on an elderly laptop.

IBobi
7th May 2018, 20:57
Well, no page option on this infinitely long Dead Sea Scroll. Took 6 minutes to get down to here, probably designed to dissuade us from commenting. Typing takes an age, you have to stop hitting the keys to give the text time to catch up. Love the content but this TSB style upgrade is the pits. Adverts now get in the way, take forever to load too, and are very distracting. Should have all been sorted, like TSB, before going live. Upgrade not been run by 2 FTS has it. JOKE!! The of course it may all have been designed by IT whizz kids with latest technology, not us old buffers on W7 on an elderly laptop.

https://www.pprune.org/pprune-problems-queries/608154-how-disable-infinite-scroll-return-old-pagination-style.html

Nigerian Expat Outlaw
8th May 2018, 11:54
1. Clear your cache
2. Turn off ad block
3. Still having issues? Let us know what device, browser and skin you're using. Maybe provide a screen shot of the blank posts.

1. Cache cleared.
2. Ad block off.
3. HP Pavilion laptop with Intel Core i5 processor, Google Chrome (fully updated), PPrune NG.
No idea how to take a screenshot. I can see photos in other threads (e.g. Jet Blast Friday Jokes), but not Top of The World.

Thanks very much.

NEO

macdo
8th May 2018, 18:46
Hi PPRUNE
is there any way to view pprune using the previous version. Since your website has been upgraded it has become very user un-friendly, slow, etc. Maybe because I'm using a Win7 PC. It exhibits many of the annoying habits of the big newspaper sites. such a shame as it means I don't use the site so much and it is completely unusable downroute on a slow connection.

IBobi
8th May 2018, 19:39
Hi PPRUNE
is there any way to view pprune using the previous version. Since your website has been upgraded it has become very user un-friendly, slow, etc. Maybe because I'm using a Win7 PC. It exhibits many of the annoying habits of the big newspaper sites. such a shame as it means I don't use the site so much and it is completely unusable downroute on a slow connection.
You can try this
https://www.pprune.org/pprune-problems-queries/608154-how-disable-infinite-scroll-return-old-pagination-style.html

macdo
8th May 2018, 21:57
You can try this
https://www.pprune.org/pprune-problems-queries/608154-how-disable-infinite-scroll-return-old-pagination-style.html
Thanks, that has improved things a bit. Still a less good browsing experience than the old version. I wish web designers would realise that we don't all own the latest zillion dollar mac!

cowl flaps
10th May 2018, 12:26
All in all, this new software is simply a monumental f**kup.
All in the sake of greed,- trying to make a few bucks off the advertisers, but having the reverse effect by forcing people
to use adblockers or abandon coming here and use the alternate sites. It'll be SNAFU from here forward.

Lonewolf_50
10th May 2018, 20:23
You can't set the page to PPRuNe NG? OK, I was finally able to get out of the mobile thing.
I clicked on the "more" (having previously cleared cookies via IE 11) and began clicking on the pictures. Two of them were admin functions I can't use, but the last one on the right opened a screen where I was able to see "log out" and then, when I logged out, cookies cleared, logging back in got me into PPRuNeNG.
Good, I won't make that mistake twice with the mobile app on a PC.
Thanks.

Nigerian Expat Outlaw
11th May 2018, 07:45
Still unable to see photos on the Rotorheads Top of the World thread. I can see them on Jet Blast Friday jokes. I haven't changed anything my end except disable the infinite scroll and follow the instructions previously given.

NEO

chinook240
12th May 2018, 06:21
I normally use an iPad and disliked the huge ads that appeared in the new mobile skin, particularly if you zoom the text which causes the ad to take very half the screen. However, I have found that by replacing Safari with an ad free web browser, I'm using Brave, I no longer get the floating ads and can once again happily view Pprune ad free - result! It's also cured the really slow keyboard response time that had crept into Safari.

JPJP
12th May 2018, 21:31
The new format is awful. It seems that IB has rolled out this format across all of its Forums. It sucks equally across all of them. So, I award high marks for consistency.

An example you ask ? (Of course you do. Despite the fact that IB has absolutely zero intention of returning to a format that works) - can no longer post photos from my device. When I tap on the photo button, the only option is ‘Image properties’ and a ‘URL Link.’ Yes, this occurs on the desktop and mobile platform. Fail.

Another example - On a mobile device, you can’t turn off ‘infinite scroll’. Is this another ‘improvement’ that some genius thought we wanted ? Or they just couldn’t leave something alone ? Fail.

Fail.

Thanks, that has improved things a bit. Still a less good browsing experience than the old version. I wish web designers would realise that we don't all own the latest zillion dollar mac!

It sucks on a Mac too. That’s not why they did it.

sluggums
14th May 2018, 09:55
The iPad skin is appalling. Buttons are too small or have been removed. Ads everywhere. A giant step back. The previous ‘full version’ was fine. Why change what was perfectly ok?

IBobi
16th May 2018, 00:54
can no longer post photos from my device. When I tap on the photo button, the only option is ‘Image properties’ and a ‘URL Link.’ Yes, this occurs on the desktop and mobile platform.


At the moment, per my announcement on the forums on April 23...

https://www.pprune.org/pprune-problems-queries/608111-software-update-new-photo-gallery-photo-uploader-mobile-skin-april-23-2018-a.html#post10127921

...the old method of uploading photos still applies: click GO ADVANCED, MANAGE ATTACHMENTS, and upload your photos from there. Later this month we will enable the new uploader which is extremely easy to use on mobile and desktop.

Nigerian Expat Outlaw
17th May 2018, 20:46
I guess I'm being ignored. That Top of the World thread is one of four that I take an interest in. It just seems strange that on that particular thread the photos have disappeared since this new format arrived.

NEO

IBobi
17th May 2018, 21:10
I guess I'm being ignored. That Top of the World thread is one of four that I take an interest in. It just seems strange that on that particular thread the photos have disappeared since this new format arrived.

NEO
I see the photos. With Chrome on desktop.

clear cache
log out and back in to clear cookies
turn off ad block
set style (lower left dropdown) to "PPRune NG"
still happening? Try a different browser
still happening? post a screen shot of a post that you think should display a photo and does not

md 600 driver
18th May 2018, 07:07
hi when using IOS Apple iPhone I keep getting the adverts on the side covering the text of pasts I am trying to read

IBobi
18th May 2018, 22:18
hi when using IOS Apple iPhone I keep getting the adverts on the side covering the text of pasts I am trying to read

Yes, this is a known bug. You can

Use the mobile skin
or NOT ZOOM IN
or use landscape mode (mitigates but does not fix)

marchino61
19th May 2018, 00:32
I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the upgrade, but the thread on the Cuba crash is marked "WIKI" - I've never seen this on pprune before.

When I try to go to the thread I just get a screen with the following text: NULL int(1) DIEEEEED . All other (non-WIKI) threads are OK.

This happens both with Chrome and Firefox.

IBobi
21st May 2018, 23:26
I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the upgrade, but the thread on the Cuba crash is marked "WIKI" - I've never seen this on pprune before.

When I try to go to the thread I just get a screen with the following text: NULL int(1) DIEEEEED . All other (non-WIKI) threads are OK.

This happens both with Chrome and Firefox.

Wikiposts are a new feature from last year.

Try clearing your cache. Should be no problems viewing the thread or the wikipost in it with either browser.

this is my username
3rd Jun 2018, 10:03
Can't get past the privacy policy page when trying to view the site on my iphone 5S - the instructions say to click on the "I AGREE" button but there isn't one on the page. Can't scroll / swipe or anything to get past the privacy message. Any ideas?

IBobi
4th Jun 2018, 22:25
Can't get past the privacy policy page when trying to view the site on my iphone 5S - the instructions say to click on the "I AGREE" button but there isn't one on the page. Can't scroll / swipe or anything to get past the privacy message. Any ideas?
Thank you, I have reported this to our technicians.

IBobi
21st Jun 2018, 19:14
Can't get past the privacy policy page when trying to view the site on my iphone 5S - the instructions say to click on the "I AGREE" button but there isn't one on the page. Can't scroll / swipe or anything to get past the privacy message. Any ideas?

My tech team reports this as fixed. Please clear your browser cache and try again.