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BBC reporting a Military aircraft crash at a Military base in Algeria with many reported fatalities, thoughts and prayers go out to all involved
roving
11th Apr 2018, 10:00
ALGIERS, April 11 (Reuters) - At least 100 people were killed in a military plane crash in Algeria on Wednesday, local media said.
Local news website TSA said 105 people had died, quoting what it called provisional figures from the civil service.
A statement from the defence ministry confirming the crash gave no casualty toll. (Reporting by Hamid Ould Ahmed, Aidan Lewis and Ulf Laessing; editing by John Stonestreet)
roving
11th Apr 2018, 10:11
I see that there is a thread running on the R's & N's section of Pprune about this accident.
TBM-Legend
11th Apr 2018, 11:02
Algerian Il-76 crash leaves ‘scores’ dead
SAd event!
Latest estimate is 257 dead.
(https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/crash-of-military-plane-in-algeria-kills-257/ar-AAvKDQ8?ocid=spartandhp)
Very sad. There is a report that there were also family members on bo (https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/607655-heavy-casualties-reported-algerian-il78-crash.html#post10114516)ard. 10 crew plus passengers.
sandiego89
11th Apr 2018, 12:39
Terrible loss.
How many seats can a Il-76 be fitted with?
Mil-26Man
11th Apr 2018, 12:44
140 nominally, but there is a double-decker seating arrangement that can be 'rolled' in and out of the hold.
https://twitter.com/newaviator/status/984038583932801025
bspatz
11th Apr 2018, 19:06
Current reports indicate there are 257 fatalities which would suggest that it was 22 over the max POB.
melmothtw
11th Apr 2018, 19:34
The Iranians lost 273 when one of their Il-76s went down in 2003, so possible to cram more in than 257.
Rigga
11th Apr 2018, 20:23
Its not just those 'foreign Johnnys' that squeeze a few extras in.
May I refer you to the Falkland Islands, 1982:
- One Chinook 'BN' (Max Pax 44) carrying 80+ troops held in by a cargo strap.
The Old Fat One
11th Apr 2018, 21:24
Its not just those 'foreign Johnnys' that squeeze a few extras in.
May I refer you to the Falkland Islands, 1982:
- One Chinook 'BN' (Max Pax 44) carrying 80+ troops held in by a cargo strap.
That was in a war...lots of rules get s**t-canned in war, often with official sanction.
That was in a war...lots of rules get s**t-canned in war, often with official sanction.
I seem to recall stories during WWII that the MTOW figures of most of the heavy bombers going out the window with aircraft staggering into the air massively overloaded.
Lonewolf_50
12th Apr 2018, 03:58
Hueys loaded to the gills with guns, ammo and fuel, using ground effect (often only light on the skids at first) to get enough airspeed to get to the end of an airstrip and take on a mission because they drooped too much Nr trying to hover. (As told by a HAL-3 gunship vet, Viet Nam).
megan
12th Apr 2018, 04:40
Huey gunships - getting out of the revetment to the runway with a fully loaded aircraft was an exercise in patience. Lift to the hover, taxi, on reaching full left pedal due Nr bleed close throttle and perform hovering auto, wind throttle back on, repeat. At times both backseaters would run along side during take off until reaching translational and then clamber on board. Replacement of the -11 engine with the -13 relegated the procedure to history, though that only happened in our unit shortly before we pulled out.
Tankertrashnav
12th Apr 2018, 10:49
Blimey, and I thought a fully laden Victor K1 on a warm day was bad enough. At least we back seaters didn't have to run alongside till rotate!