Caravan 'Down'....Is This For Real... ?

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

Is this 'for real'... ?
Source is self-explanatory.....

Is this seaplane under the sea? Kimberley marine park investigation underway - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-29/sea-plane-sinking-horizontal-falls/9597718)


Oh Dear.......

[Connedrod]

Yep got a call about it today

[Aussie Bob]

"With 17,000 incidents, serious incidents and accident notifications made to the ATSB last year, it is not possible for the ATSB to investigate every occurrence... the ATSB focuses its resources in the areas that are most likely to result in safety improvements

That is 46 odd incidents per day every day of the year :sad:

[Slatye]

That is 46 odd incidents per day every day of the year :sad:
That's over aviation, marine, and rail - and it's notifications, not raw incidents. I expect most of the accidents are train-related simply because of the large amount of train traffic in cities. Combine (a) people being silly - restrictions for train travel are much looser than for aircraft, and (b) potentially tens of notifications for the same incident, and you'd get that 46 per day easily.

[cowl flaps]

So, a multi million dollar insurance claim lodged and Horizontal Falls Seaplane Adventures Troy Thomas claims the aircraft is in their Broome hangar ?

Some 'porky pies' floating around here.

[topdrop]

I think you will find of the 46 per day, most are aviation, mainly because ATC have to submit inane "incident" reports on the most trivial things. e.g. Having QFA933 and QFA923 on freq at same time, some controllers are submitting incidents listed as Possible callsign confusion. You could then have multiple controllers in different submitting the same incident. If they think it could lead to an incident, why don't they follow the change callsign examples in AIP to avoid the possible incident. There are plenty more examples at this level of stupidity.

[PoppaJo]

Emirates last week introduced alpha numeric callsigns across its Australian flights in an effort to reduce incidents. Etihad also is on selected flights.

[taraglen]

According to CASA website VH-PGA is not on the register

[1a sound asleep]

So who is telling lies about a crashed plane a huge insurance claim here? Where is the ATSB? This is an airline category aircraft? All lies, fraud or coverup?

[YPJT]

So who is telling lies about a crashed plane a huge insurance claim here? Where is the ATSB? This is an airline category aircraft? All lies, fraud or coverup?
Shades of the Skippers incident just up the road - literally

[Stationair8]

The Broome Triangle?

[taraglen]

Clearly the ABC news has their facts wrong.
False news here, unless the Company operates 2 X VH PGA's and one of them did in fact sink.
One of the VH-PGA's was shown to the ABC by Thomas, sitting high and dry in his hangar DAYS AFTER the other VH-PGA's alleged sinking in Talbot Bay on 15th March?
Go Figure.

[tail wheel]

According to CASA website VH-PGA is not on the register

Indeed, no VH-PGA on the CASA register. However there was a C208 VH-PGA at least in 2015 - see ATSB Investigation number: AO-2015-083 (https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2015/aair/ao-2015-083/):

Near collision involving Cessna 210L, VH-TCI, and Cessna 208, VH-PGA 46 km NNE of Broome Airport, WA on 15 July 2015

Regosearch (http://www.regosearch.com/aircraft/au/PGA) states:

Here are the Australian aviation rego search results for 'VH-PGA'.
The aircraft registration database was last refreshed from the Australian Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) on 03/Apr/2018

So, VH-PGA appears to have existed on the Register only four days ago?

Intriguing?

[edsbar]

CASA rego search has been broken for weeks.

Try this https://www.casa.gov.au/aircraft-register/pga

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story ....

[tail wheel]

Obviously!

No matter what field I use at the CASA registration search site - tried "Cessna 208" and "2080031" - the result was always "no record".

Probably should have anticipated the CASA search function could be broken..... :ugh:

[WingNut60]

The Broome Triangle?

Not to forget the little amphib that plummeted to the bottom when its mooring rope broke at the Koolan Island wharf in mid-80's.
The rope wouldn't support the weight of the aircraft, suspended vertically, when the tide went out.

Crew were enjoying some Sunday refreshments at the KI Wet Mess.

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

Hey 'WN',

I saw a prawn trawler do exactly the same thing in 'Sam's Creek' near Pt Samson, WA in '71......

The silly little men had it tied up 'tight' to the jetty on a 'full tide', and then 'retired' into the very local 'tinny club'....completely unawares that the tide was dropping at an 'alarming' rate,
as it does up there, and the heavy fibreglass trawler, (the 'Reliant'), firmly lashed to said jetty, simply pulled the whole jetty into the creek...on top of said trawler...!!!

Took them months to raise it, dry it out, rebuild said jetty.....

Oh Dear!!

So, I can imagine the scene......
Cheers :ouch::ouch:

Apols for the 'drift'....if U get my drift......

[WingNut60]

Hey 'WN',

I saw a prawn trawler do exactly the same thing in 'Sam's Creek' near Pt Samson, WA in '71......

The silly little men had it tied up 'tight' to the jetty on a 'full tide', and then 'retired' into the very local 'tinny club'....completely unawares that the tide was dropping at an 'alarming' rate,
as it does up there, and the heavy fibreglass trawler, (the 'Reliant'), firmly lashed to said jetty, simply pulled the whole jetty into the creek...on top of said trawler...!!!

Took them months to raise it, dry it out, rebuild said jetty.....

Oh Dear!!

So, I can imagine the scene......
Cheers :ouch::ouch:

Apols for the 'drift'....if U get my drift......

It got worse at KI.
When aircraft was raised, with island police assistance, there was an unlicensed firearm on board.

Very sad bunch.

Aircraft was small, single engine amphib with engine pod over the fuselage.
Maybe a pusher. I forget what they were called.

EDIT : Lake Bucaneer

[Ixixly]

About a week and a half since that article came out, very curious as to what the full story is behind all this!

[sms777]

About a week and a half since that article came out, very curious as to what the full story is behind all this!
We may never know. Look at the Skippers fiasco. Very secretive bunch them Kimberley Klan.

[Badengo]

Nothing to see here move along, just media blowing up about an industry they don’t deal with.

[sms777]

Are you a member of the Klan by any chance Badengo? I promise I keep it secret.......:}

[cowl flaps]

Are you a member of the Klan by any chance Badengo? I promise I keep it secret.......
Beat me to it sms777. Very suss.
If indeed anything of the sort happened, I'm sure the insurance company will be studying it very carefully,- whether CASA choose to sit on their hands or not.

[Wiggley]

PGA is still on the CASA Rego CSV.

PGA CESSNA AIRCRAFT COMPANY 208 20800312 3629 1 PRATT & WHITNEY CANADA Turboprop PT6A-114 Kerosene Full Registration WEST COAST SEAPLANES PTY LTD PO Box 950 BROOME WA 6725 Australia 10-Sep-12 WEST COAST AIR SERVICES PTY LTD PO Box 568 BELMONT WA 6984 Australia 16-Apr-15 14-Oct-99 Power Driven Aeroplane Active (Normal) MCCAULEY PROPELLERS 3GFR34C703-B A37CE United States of America 1999 C208

According to the register there are four aircraft registered to the same operator.

MOV
NUX
OPH
PGA

[troppo]

Beat me to it sms777. Very suss.
If indeed anything of the sort happened, I'm sure the insurance company will be studying it very carefully,- whether CASA choose to sit on their hands or not.

Actually the loss adjustor on behalf of the underwriters will do it.
Loss adjustors are a 'unique' breed of kant.