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737 Jockey
18th Mar 2018, 20:49
Just interested to know what the market rate for a 7 hour briefing & sim session is for B737/A320 TRI & TRE?

Cheers!

Dudley Do Right
18th Mar 2018, 21:41
Depends are you buying or selling?

piratepete
18th Mar 2018, 21:46
The most recent number im used to is $100 USD per hour of SIM time excluding pre and post session briefings, plus per diem of $100 USD a day plus a decent hotel room.

737 Jockey
18th Mar 2018, 22:32
Depends are you buying or selling?


Good question... selling.

Any CTC/L3 freelancers care to comment?

Dudley Do Right
18th Mar 2018, 23:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCfbznp5Za0

ZFT
19th Mar 2018, 01:25
The most recent number im used to is $100 USD per hour of SIM time excluding pre and post session briefings, plus per diem of $100 USD a day plus a decent hotel room.

Agreed for SFIs (TREs USD 500 per session) plus normally off day allowance and air ticket if needed.

piratepete
19th Mar 2018, 03:48
Well if you use $100 USD per hour thats $400 for a session so its the same thing more or less.

ZFT
19th Mar 2018, 04:06
Well if you use $100 USD per hour thats $400 for a session so its the same thing more or less.

I wasn't disagreeing with you

mcdhu
19th Mar 2018, 08:29
UK ATOs vary from TRI/SFI GBP 400 - 500, TRE/SFE GBP 450 - 550
mcdhu

RAT 5
19th Mar 2018, 11:06
Very sad and very pathetic when you consider what the hourly rate of the pilot you are checking/training will be getting when flying the line; even an F/O will be on more than that. A full session is, unreality, 6.30-7.00hrs, plus preparation time and travel time. In fact, if flying in/out it could cost you 2 unpaid days; and let's not forget the overtime night/weekend element that is also unpaid.

However, if Boeing and other ATO's around the world are paying €500- U$650 per session there is not much the freelancer can do to negotiate. The important element is expenses and travel. I had a request for services from one agency, but all travel & accommodation was own cost. If you are flying in/out that deal is a non-starter. You'll be losing money.

On another thread, JetBlast, there was a discussion about solicitors fees where the cartel philosophy demands £250-450/hr, even for a junior. Makes you wonder. The difference is the solicitor tells you, the customer, what the cost will be. For a TRE the ATO customer tells you the TRE service provider what the remuneration will be. If you ask what you think you are worth they will seek someone else. Sadly there seems to be no alternative to take it or leave it.