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chopper2004
14th Mar 2018, 20:13
Came across this today Trump touting for a dedicated Space Force.
cheers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T_nwIe8td4
Herod
14th Mar 2018, 21:17
"Space is a war-fighting domain"...Permission to despair now, sir?
campbeex
14th Mar 2018, 21:18
Perhaps he'd just finished watching Moonraker and assumed it was a drama-documentary?
Alber Ratman
14th Mar 2018, 21:50
Calling Dan Dare and Digby..
Ascend Charlie
15th Mar 2018, 00:52
Waiting now for Donald D1ck to blow up a satellite, then tweet that his generals had forgotten to tell him that the million pieces of space shrapnel have now made every satellite up there vulnerable, even those of his Space Force. But it won't be his fault, he will just fire another staff member.
tartare
15th Mar 2018, 02:51
The stealthy - vantablack (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantablack) coated non-nuclear space mines are up there already - I'm tellin' ya.
Not prohibited by any treaty.
Sitting right next to every Ruski and Chinese IMINT, SIGINT and MilComs bird.
Just waiting for the day when the balloon goes up...
Musk expects to start test flights with the BFR as early as next year. Room for up to a hundred passengers. You know it makes sense.......
https://i.imgur.com/xpgIAXa.jpg
Jumping_Jack
15th Mar 2018, 15:11
Starrship - Mission (http://www.starrship.space/mission/)
RAF on it's way to the stars already!!
Thanks for the political crap. Can this be moved to Jet Blast now?
Planet Basher
15th Mar 2018, 20:07
Starrship - Mission (http://www.starrship.space/mission/)
RAF on it's way to the stars already!!
Surely the "A" disqualifies it?
Martin the Martian
15th Mar 2018, 20:22
Perhaps Trump has seen a few too many episodes of Stargate SG-1?
Or perhaps we need to get Jet-Ace Logan out of retirement...
Linedog
15th Mar 2018, 20:43
It all starts from Tracey island.
https://www.defensenews.com/space/2019/02/19/trump-signs-off-on-organizing-the-space-force-under-the-air-forcefor-now/
Trump officially organizes the Space Force under the Air Force ... for now
RAFEngO74to09
20th Feb 2019, 19:12
Space Force will now be part of the Department of the Air Force - an analogous arrangement to the USMC being part of the Department of the Navy.
Space Force personnel will have their own unique uniforms which already appear to be available from a number of outlets including Walmart and Amazon:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1000x1000/star_trek_tng_blue_womens_compression_rash_guard_front_1_502 fa89210d6c0620a0bdfae7398c6b41912eea1.jpg
hunterboy
20th Feb 2019, 21:12
I may or may not already have a similar uniform already ��
NutLoose
20th Feb 2019, 21:42
The UK has been at the forefront for years in training Space Cadets......:E:O
tartare
21st Feb 2019, 00:02
Oh my lord... a good day it is!
NutLoose
21st Feb 2019, 08:42
Has he signed up for it tartare?
westhawk
22nd Feb 2019, 07:16
The USAF has had a Space Command for decades. Re-branding it and adding some additional functions does not a new thing make! But a flashy new name and another layer of bureaucracy is certain to add new funding.
Eisenhower was president when the the basis for Air Force space command was officially formed. (in large part to manage ICBM development and deployment) Of course the actual beginning pre-dates his presidency by several years if you count what the Army ( and Von Braun's team (AKA "our Germans") ) were doing in the late forties. Then Ike went and gave that farewell speech as he left office in 1961 warning the country to beware the perils of the military-industrial complex. It could certainly be said that the Air Force has been in the space business for over 70 years.
New name, same mission: Control and exploit the high ground. (space)
It's just that now it's about allot more than missiles. Everything from GPS to high-speed secure data comm networks, ISR, EWO and yes, space-borne weapons systems are in play. So maybe a big name for a big package of missions might not be so far out of order after all. I look at it like I do the formation of the modern Army Aviation Corps. (with corps insignia) It wasn't ceremonially activated as a Corps until 1986, ( I was in the parade!) but had been around since about 1860 in one form or another. Re-branding is how progress is defined in today's world!
https://www.defensenews.com/space/2019/08/20/space-command-to-launch-aug-29/
Space Command to launch Aug. 29
WASHINGTON — The Pentagon will stand up a new combatant command before the end of the month, with the official launch of U.S. Space Command set for Aug. 29.
Speaking at a meeting of the National Space Council on Tuesday, Gen. Joe Dunford, the outgoing chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, announced the date for the standup of the new organization, the first combatant command to be fully stood up since Africa Command was created in 2009.
Upon its standup, SPACECOM head Gen. Jay Raymond will inherit 87 units, covering “missile warning, satellite operations, space control and space support," Dunford said. Raymond has previously said (https://www.defensenews.com/space/2019/06/04/heres-what-the-first-few-years-of-us-space-command-might-look-like/) he expects to start with about 642 personnel pulled from U.S. Strategic Command. Army Lt. Gen. James Dickinson has been nominated (https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/smd/2019/08/06/heres-who-will-be-the-us-space-command-deputy/) to become the deputy commander.
Raymond has acknowledged that the standup of the new organization won’t be easy, telling members of Congress in written testimony from June that “my first priority will be to ensure the seamless transition of the command and control of critical space capabilities that the nation and the joint force depend on each and every day. Simultaneously we need to ensure we take steps to strengthen readiness and lethality as we complete our shift from a permissive environment to a posture for warfighting.”
The creation of the new combatant command is the first step towards the creation of a full-up Space Force, an idea that has been heavily pushed (https://www.defensenews.com/space/2019/02/19/trump-signs-off-on-organizing-the-space-force-under-the-air-forcefor-now/)by President Donald Trump.
“This initiative is going to have a positive impact on our ability to grow the people and capabilities that we’re going to need in the future,” Dunford said of an eventual Space Force. “I’m confident the focus that a single service will bring to bear is going to have a profound difference.”
“The direction is clear. We understand it. And we’re moving out.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/07/donald-trump-space-force-deal-federal-workers-paid-parental-leaveDonald Trump may get his space force – in deal for federal paid parental leaveFederal workers in the US seem set to be given 12 weeks of paid parental leave – in return for Donald Trump (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donaldtrump) being given his cherished space force.
Speaking to the Associated Press on condition of anonymity, Democratic and Republican aides confirmed that leaders on Capitol Hill were nearing agreement in negotiations on an annual defense policy bill.
The agreement would trade a major expansion of benefits to federal workers for the president’s key legacy initiative. Federal workers can currently take unpaid leave.
The agreement is not finalized and comes after extensive behind-the-scenes battling on the annual defense measure, which has passed Congress every year since the Kennedy administration. Further details were not available.......
BVRAAM
8th Dec 2019, 17:58
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/07/donald-trump-space-force-deal-federal-workers-paid-parental-leaveDonald Trump may get his space force – in deal for federal paid parental leaveFederal workers in the US seem set to be given 12 weeks of paid parental leave – in return for Donald Trump (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donaldtrump) being given his cherished space force.
Speaking to the Associated Press on condition of anonymity, Democratic and Republican aides confirmed that leaders on Capitol Hill were nearing agreement in negotiations on an annual defense policy bill.
The agreement would trade a major expansion of benefits to federal workers for the president’s key legacy initiative. Federal workers can currently take unpaid leave.
The agreement is not finalized and comes after extensive behind-the-scenes battling on the annual defense measure, which has passed Congress every year since the Kennedy administration. Further details were not available.......
Sounds like a win for every Federal employee, and a win for the United States.
West Coast
9th Dec 2019, 07:33
The sky’s the limit...
C’mon ORAC, you can do better than that.
To infinity and beyond!
pr00ne
10th Dec 2019, 10:10
To the cinema and beyond!
RAFEngO74to09
15th May 2020, 18:07
US Space Force flag unfurled in the Oval Office.
Space Force Chief Enlisted Advisor - with a very snazzy rank ensignia - told not to put POTUS's signature on eBay tonight !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4r594ZKM1Q&feature=youtu.be
Cat Techie
15th May 2020, 23:59
With his super duper missile. Some one needs to be getting their coat.
unmanned_droid
16th May 2020, 21:07
Shame the X-37B launch was scrubbed. Would have been a nice follow up.
TURIN
16th May 2020, 21:19
I was flicking between the ULA launch and the SpaceX test firing of a Starship and got zip from both.
NumptyAussie
17th May 2020, 05:28
US Space Force flag unfurled in the Oval Office.
Space Force Chief Enlisted Advisor - with a very snazzy rank ensignia - told not to put POTUS's signature on eBay tonight !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4r594ZKM1Q&feature=youtu.be
Trump spurring them on...
Well that’s the first launch for the Space Force, and the X-37B back in orbit.
https://spacenews.com/u-s-air-force-x-37b-spaceplane-off-to-its-sixth-mission/
Ascend Charlie
18th May 2020, 06:45
The experiment will convert solar power into radio frequency microwave energy which could then be transmitted to the ground.
Why not let the solar energy make its own way to earth and then collect it in a big, really big, I'm talking collectors the size you have never seen before, and take away the need for having a steerable antenna on the X-37B that has to direct the microwaves to a specific receiver. And gawd help any bird or plane that flies through that beam of energy going fast, really fast, 17 times faster than any energy that any president has ever tweeted about before. But perhaps there is another use for it - the Death Ray that can be aimed at Sleepy Joe or his bestest friend ever, whats'is name in Korea.
And gawd help any bird or plane that flies through that beam of energy
Read the research. Receiver farm is quite large, no harmful effects on anyone passing through the beam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power#Safety
Ascend Charlie
18th May 2020, 11:06
a 10 km diameter area corresponds to 750 megawatts total power level. This is the power level found in many modern electric power plants. For comparison, a solar PV farm of similar size might easily exceed 10,000 megawatts (rounded) at best conditions during daytime.
So, if a solar array, of the same size as a receiver antenna for microwaves, is over 10 times more efficient than the microwaves, why bother?
Asturias56
18th May 2020, 16:08
I see the Space Force launched it's first X-37B mission yesterday?
TURIN
18th May 2020, 16:46
I see the Space Force launched it's first X-37B mission yesterday?
Yep. Post #31 above.
https://twitter.com/MARFORSPACE/status/1327293859018268677?s=20
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x537/image_7c70bd4ed7a302cb48fc26cb0e50fd4c48dcc0dc.jpeg
tucumseh
16th Nov 2020, 08:16
That thing they're carrying looks remarkably like one of the proposed SA80 replacements from 2000. ISD 2015. How's that coming along?
Stuff
17th Nov 2020, 16:02
So, if a solar array, of the same size as a receiver antenna for microwaves, is over 10 times more efficient than the microwaves, why bother?
The space-based system can have the generating satellite positioned so that it never falls into shadow and therefore sends power to Earth at all times. Energy price varies massively throughout the day and you make way more money selling at peak times. If you pair up the ground stations such that they are separated in longitude one satellite can switch from station A to Station B ensuring it is supplying the very highest demand areas and therefore selling it's energy at maximum price nearly 18 hours a day. A solar array has a much greater peak production but it tends to produce this at times when there isn't a high demand.
chopper2004
17th Nov 2020, 23:42
https://twitter.com/MARFORSPACE/status/1327293859018268677?s=20
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x537/image_7c70bd4ed7a302cb48fc26cb0e50fd4c48dcc0dc.jpeg
The Marines been involved in Space warfare since the 1970s lol albeit led by an USAF Colonel Scott
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/660x371/ed669c11_1bdb_41f4_8231_2919082dc5fd_4a39d93566b1d5503309c34 78b7c965a299aabe1.jpeg
Sandy Parts
18th Nov 2020, 10:42
That thing they're carrying looks remarkably like one of the proposed SA80 replacements from 2000. ISD 2015. How's that coming along?
should be with us soon - being dropped off in something called Nimrod 2000 apparently...:)
Finningley Boy
18th Nov 2020, 13:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M0IFdGqovY
And here's the new RAF march past! Slow march of course.
FB
RAFEngO74to09
21st Sep 2021, 22:27
WTF !
Space Force Dress Uniforms prototypes - worse than the parody versions doing the rounds when Space Force was announced.
The first US military uniform "initially devised for women before adjusting for men’s comfort as well" - yet the pants (trousers to people in the UK) the female is wearing are attrociously tailored !
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x684/image_072892249cbdab0e3017ac423beb81e8320ceafd.png
RAFEngO74to09
21st Sep 2021, 22:34
The Battlestar Galactica franchise will be demanding a royalty !
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1080x1080/image_203cbbab8bc4edba7cde4d8ef33d86bfa5c995c0.png
NutLoose
22nd Sep 2021, 00:09
Yep, almost the same, except the Battlestar ones appear a better fit and have a pocket which is a plus, also Star Trek had a similar design.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/450x298/star_trek_original_series_movie_uniforms_a38baadf02fbdba33de 43b49c56d0e584636688d.jpg
tdracer
22nd Sep 2021, 02:56
I must say, those uniforms are consistent with most of what's come from our military leaders this year...
tartare
22nd Sep 2021, 04:44
You are kidding me - really?
Those are actually the real uniforms...?
Bob Viking
22nd Sep 2021, 06:35
The first US military uniform "initially devised for women before adjusting for men’s comfort as well" - yet the pants (trousers to people in the UK) the female is wearing are attrociously tailored !
Were the US expecting Space Force to be mainly women? Why would you specifically design a uniform for a single gender and then adapt it?! Especially in this day and age.
Why not design a male uniform and a female uniform that look the same but are designed for a specific gender?!
Either I’m missing something or someone is just trying to look overly PC and has ended up looking stupid.
BV
TheWestCoast
22nd Sep 2021, 20:22
Isn't she wearing men's pants (sorry, "trousers"), though? Hence the terrible fit?