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Ex FSO GRIFFO
14th Mar 2018, 10:21
The 'Flying Kanga' to do PER to 'Gay Paree' Non-Stop in September this year...???

Rumour...??

If it can do PER to LON, then 'Paree' is just a walk in the park...?

Passenger numbers I wonder..??
Especially on the return trip.....

Cheers :ok:

Pinky the pilot
14th Mar 2018, 11:15
Ummm...er... Griffo me old...I reckon the term 'Gay' Paree is now somewhat obsolescent, wouldn't you agree?:confused:

MelbourneFlyer
14th Mar 2018, 11:32
According to new QantasSpeak you cannot use 'gay' because it may offend a gay person, so this route will be from Perth to 'same-sex preference' Paris. "Not that there's anything wrong with that..."

blow.n.gasket
14th Mar 2018, 11:42
un fantastique Rumour.
Un petite problem !
With what , mon dieu , no extra aircraft !
The first 8 already accounted for.

C441
15th Mar 2018, 01:09
The first 8 already accounted for.

Alternative title: Qantas return to Sydney and Melbourne daily A380 services to London...

PW1830
15th Mar 2018, 03:49
They could hub these out of ,say Singapore, and feed in from the rest of Australia which is currently ignored!

megan
15th Mar 2018, 06:09
Ummm...er... Griffo me old...I reckon the term 'Gay' Paree is now somewhat obsolescentI don't know, AJ could come up with a good ad aimed at a certain section of the community based on the term.

dragon man
15th Mar 2018, 07:50
Rumour from training is 6 more 787s and yes, Perth to Paris next.

Keg
15th Mar 2018, 08:10
Qantas originally had 8 787 delivery options slated for 19/20. They’ve so far relinquished one in a move timed to create a perception of angst in the pilot body and send a shot across the bows re Jetconnect, Network and SH EA but in reality is a bit of a nothing move as I’m not sure we had the capacity to train for that aeroplane anyway.

So there are still 7 options for 19/20 and it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if we also gave up option number two for that year so as to continue with the preferred ‘narrative of the day’ (fiscal responsibility, nasty pilots, whatever it has to be). Were that second option not taken up it may finally allow us to get on the front foot with training and be able to train for the remaining 6 without decimating the pilot numbers on the A330 and 737 and cancelling services.

So that pretty much ties in with Dragon man’s rumour about 6 in 19/20.

Tankengine
15th Mar 2018, 09:00
One rumour getting around is that this six 787s, if ordered will “replace” the last of the 747s.
How six little 787s replace nine large 747s I cannot see! (Assuming OEB already gone)
Especially as every time the 787 is mentioned there is a plan for some new route with little mention of current routes.
Shrink to profits? ;)

V-Jet
15th Mar 2018, 09:28
One rumour getting around is that this six 787s, if ordered will “replace” the last of the 747s.
How six little 787s replace nine large 747s I cannot see! (Assuming OEB already gone)
Especially as every time the 787 is mentioned there is a plan for some new route with little mention of current routes.
Shrink to profits? ;)

You can’t shrink too much to too many profits.

Joyce is a bully at heart. He has proved inept amongst his peers so he is only interested in a pond he can dominate easily. Domestic - where he has a monopoly and cannot fail.

He suffers from a Napoleonic Complex but on a very small scale. Not for him vast tracks emanating out of Qantas HQ around the globe, but little lines from Perth to Kunnanura and Darwin and Katherine and maybe Learmonth! How about Dubbo or Bathurst/Kangaroo Is or even Tamworth! Using QF market share/ff points Chairpersxx Lounge and share price, he can totally dominate the smaller/semi GA operators. That way, he’s the tallest hog in the trough! And CERTAINLY the most wealthy!

Could I love Him more???

arkmark
15th Mar 2018, 12:43
Well if it's gay, QF will go there for sure.

angryrat
16th Mar 2018, 02:30
Qantas originally had 8 787 delivery options slated for 19/20. They’ve so far relinquished one in a move timed to create a perception of angst in the pilot body and send a shot across the bows re Jetconnect, Network and SH EA but in reality is a bit of a nothing move as I’m not sure we had the capacity to train for that aeroplane anyway.

So there are still 7 options for 19/20 and it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if we also gave up option number two for that year so as to continue with the preferred ‘narrative of the day’ (fiscal responsibility, nasty pilots, whatever it has to be). Were that second option not taken up it may finally allow us to get on the front foot with training and be able to train for the remaining 6 without decimating the pilot numbers on the A330 and 737 and cancelling services.

So that pretty much ties in with Dragon man’s rumour about 6 in 19/20.
The move was tactical to try upset pilots before a new EA and give bargaining leverage. Cancelling another option will just be met with more indifference from the pilot body. I’ve no doubt that they have more bullets to shoot but the fact that the pilots have essentially said we don’t care anymore would have them a little confused. QF management have been meeting on a daily basis for some time now trying to get ahead of the pilot shortage and are acutely aware of the shortage which pushed them into announcing the pilot training college. The indifference to whether they order aeroplanes or not and the looming shortage has them concerned.

Asked by a physiotherapist the other day whether he should think about being a pilot because that’s where the big bucks are or so he thought. I laughed and asked him did he want to fork out $100k+ for training? No. If he was successful did he realise that getting into an airline could see him earning less than or equal to what he’s earning for 10 years or so? No. Does he currently work weekends? No. Is he home every night? Yes.

I told him a few realities of the job and he was very ‘hmmm maybe it’s not my cup of tea’. Especially since he had a young family.

Had a mate who is a tradie drop by recently who was previously a National Sales manager for a top Australian company. I asked him why he had changed and his reply was enlightening. Too much travel and he had had enough.

The qualities that previously made this job attractive have disappeared. Ironically Jetstar has made travel more accessible and the affordability of travel is better than ever which means that the lure of travel is no longer there. Now that the regulations are used as targets our health and lifestyle has suffered. We are often referred to as resources as opposed to anything that makes us feel human just rubs into me that I’m nothing to this company.

So by all means, go cancel another option because quite frankly IDGAF.

blow.n.gasket
16th Mar 2018, 04:59
Essential reading for Qantas Pilots when dealing with senior management ?

https://m.wikihow.com/Spot-a-Pathological-Liar

mrdeux
16th Mar 2018, 05:01
Perhaps it's just the Perth - London flight, with a planned refuelling stop in Paris.

TurningFinalRWY36
16th Mar 2018, 05:07
that would be funny, still non stop to europe is what they will claim

Rated De
16th Mar 2018, 06:22
The indifference to whether they order aeroplanes or not and the looming shortage has them concerned.
It was circa 2006 and EGM Qantas 'people' Kevin Brown stated in response to protests that the 788 was going to JQ (and I paraphrase) 'What are the pilots worried about, they will still get to fly their shiny metal jets'

Their model is predicated on connected engaged response. They spend enormous resources crafting narrative and also the way it is communicated. Ask any HR strategist. It is dark stuff at times.

In other words, when considering a strategy for example involving something symbolic (think like uniform) they will factor in EXPECTED pilot response to gauge sentiment; is there commentary on social media for example or other indicators of sentimental response by a stakeholder group. It is often during such events that other changes are slipped through.

They have no idea how to generate a response when the pilot body is indifferent and apparently silent.

angryrat
16th Mar 2018, 07:12
Opinion? Or fact?

Pilot opinion, based on self perception of importance.

Fact, based on them admitting it. Take your self importance elsewhere because IDGAF what you think.

angryrat
16th Mar 2018, 07:55
It is pretty funny how easy it is... :)FAIL. So I tell a WUM that IDGAF what he thinks and he thinks he has a bite :rolleyes:

Amateur

IsDon
16th Mar 2018, 10:50
FAIL. So I tell a WUM that IDGAF what he thinks and he thinks he has a bite :rolleyes:

Amateur

Just had a look through mmmmmbop’s posts. Clearly a wannabe troll. Don’t waste your time on it.

troppo
16th Mar 2018, 11:41
Blue blooded homophobia from the convict days when ancestors didn't have a lot of choice. :E
The world ain't gonna change...
How does homosexuality still offend so many people?
Who gives a rats arse (geddit?)

V-Jet
16th Mar 2018, 12:44
Who gives a rats arse (geddit?)

Since the Poofter Pikey removed any semblance of the classic marsupial adorning our Coat of Arms and turned it Geobbels style to something akin a Nike swoosh (maybe that’s what a Kangaroo looks like without glasses?) I’d suspect only a precious few would get what you’re intimating.