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jolihokistix
25th Feb 2018, 08:28
According to this organization:
https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2017

Tarq57
25th Feb 2018, 08:48
According to the stat, my country is a percent more corrupt than at this time last year.

ExSp33db1rd
25th Feb 2018, 08:57
Tarq57 - but at this time last year we didn't have a certain Deputy Prime Minister.

Tarq57
25th Feb 2018, 09:07
Irrelevant. The results were collated prior to the new government taking power.

WingNut60
25th Feb 2018, 09:46
And you can expect Australia to continue its slide until a long-overdue, top down, clean-out occurs and the brakes are put on the greed based economic growth policies.

Mr Optimistic
25th Feb 2018, 09:59
I am not that sure that the UK is all that good, especially at local government level. Surprising how many land owners and farmers take an interest in local politics especially planning.

Ken Borough
25th Feb 2018, 11:10
And you can expect Australia to continue its slide until a long-overdue, top down, clean-out occurs and the brakes are put on the greed based economic growth policies.

Yep! In at least one state, we've the best government money can buy. Little has changed in 200 years. ;)

sitigeltfel
25th Feb 2018, 11:16
I am not that sure that the UK is all that good, especially at local government level. Surprising how many land owners and farmers take an interest in local politics especially planning.

The people who own the land take an interest in what happens to the land?

Who da thunk it!

Pinky the pilot
25th Feb 2018, 11:54
Yep! In at least one state, we've the best government money can buy. Little has changed in 200 years.

And in (more than one) other States we have the best Police Force that money can buy!:ok::E

vapilot2004
25th Feb 2018, 11:56
The 'real' corruption remains unseen. For the states, George Carlin referred to this cabal as "the owners of this country".

Governments and businesses must do more to encourage free speech, independent media, political dissent and an open and engaged civil society.

Does free speech = fake news? I guess it does. For independent media, we have the likes of Breitbart and InfoWars. Political dissent, check. Open society? Sure enough, unless you happen to have brown skin. Engaged civil society...we're on the rebound!

governments must ensure access to information and the protection of fundamental freedoms and align these to international agreements and best practices.

The current occupant of the White House has put a blanket gag order across many of our agencies tasked with scientific tasks. Data has been disappearing faster than a ransomware infected computer. We may be failing at this one, for the moment.

Proactive disclosure of relevant data, including government budgets, company ownership, public procurement and political party finances allows journalists, civil society and affected communities to identify patterns of corrupt conduct more efficiently.

The US Supreme Court's flawed 5-4 decision on Citizen's United has fairly well screwed us here, at least in the area of political party finances and hidden corrupt conduct.

I'd say our map color is a bit off - a shift more to the red would be closer to the (sad) truth. Land of the free, exporters of democracy are we.

Ken Borough
25th Feb 2018, 12:21
Pinky,

We sure are a Weird Mob for tolerating the nonsense! :{;)

Pinky the pilot
25th Feb 2018, 12:29
We sure are a Weird Mob for tolerating the nonsense

Yep! She old Aussie 'She'll be right' attitude.:D

Nowadays sadly misplaced, out of date and IMHO downright dangerous an attitude to hold!:=:=

jolihokistix
25th Feb 2018, 12:37
Would this guy get dismissed as a liberal? He sounds pretty lucid.
How corrupt is your country? | Corruption | Al Jazeera (http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/countingthecost/2018/02/corrupt-country-180224103629596.html)

sitigeltfel
25th Feb 2018, 12:46
The mayor of a tourist town near here was approached by a company twenty years ago with an idea to boost visitor numbers. There were large unused caverns on the edge of the town, hewn by quarry workers over the centuries for the local building stone.

If they were granted the rights, the company would turn them into a vast indoor light show with the theme being art. Permission was granted and the venue became a success, trebling visitor numbers to the town.

Then one day, the mayor suddenly decided that another company should run the attraction and handed the lucrative rights to them.
The original company have been dragging the town through the courts over lost business and recently the final appeal court found in the companies favour, awarding them €5,800,000 in damages, €2,000,000 of it to be paid immediately.

This will bankrupt the town and require it to sell off a lot of the land it owns, but the mayor who made the decision to sell has retired and is living abroad, very comfortably it seems.

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Lonewolf_50
25th Feb 2018, 14:35
If we include small time graft at the local and county level, there's a lot of corruption ... it's almost as though it were an ingrained habit.

Gault
25th Feb 2018, 15:21
The people who own the land take an interest in what happens to the land?

Who da thunk it!

He said they take an interest in politics, you missed completely the point, which is they only take a (false) interest in politics and the governance of their area in order to influence planning decisions in their favour, it might be a completely natural thing to you, but it is a method of bypassing proper unbiased scrutiny, in other words it is corrupt use of the system

Anilv
26th Feb 2018, 01:38
Well my country decided to make its own index.. so there!

MACC creating country?s own corruption index | Malaysia | Malay Mail Online (http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/macc-creating-countrys-own-corruption-index)

West Coast
26th Feb 2018, 02:30
Surprised to see the Japanese score where they did.

vapilot2004
26th Feb 2018, 02:49
Considering how well behaved members of Japanese society are, I agree West Coast.

WingNut60
26th Feb 2018, 03:00
The corruption that is seen at lower levels (government counter jockeys, etc) is only a reflection of what is happening at the top.

Typically, the counter jockey feels empowered to demand gratuities because he is being paid an inadequate salary, because those at the top are shoveling truckloads of money into their private (offshore) accounts; and he knows it.

pax britanica
1st Mar 2018, 16:15
UK is moderately corrupt I would say-actually not a bad ranking when it comes to political corruption. Of course we are more subtle than the bags of cash or employing children of polis but i think a lot goes on below the surface.

Unduly high percentage of councillors are in property businesses and on or close to planning committees.

Revolving door between civil servants and politicians and the industries they (are supposed to) regulate.

The Old Bill seems to find it hard to shake off dodgy dealing-see recent case about UKs largest chauffeur/limo business.

Very hard to see any country rated very low in this regard since politicians and their hangers on are in general a bit dodgy or worse because it is the nature of the beast

Pali
1st Mar 2018, 17:25
For a moment there is a huge uproar in our country after an investigative journalist and his fiancee were killed (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43226567).

The leftist social democrat government faces a big scandal. Prime minister's assistant (ex model, see the photo) had a company with an Italian entrepreneur who per the last article of the killed journalist had connections to Italian mafia.

https://t4.aimg.sk/magaziny/gEKDsr3eRm239tRaIIflUg~Jasa-a-Tro-kov-pracuj-v-bezprostrednej-bl-zkosti-Fica.jpg?t=LzB4Nzo2MDN4MzQ2LzgwMHg0NTAvc21hcnQ%3D&h=5G6WQ3eHyfitxm4jwtd9UQ&e=2145916800&v=3

Beside her there is high ranking official (secretary of state security council, on the photo left) who has business connection to the same Italian groups possibly linked to Ndrangheta.

Nation is angered, demonstrations are ongoing and there are protests against corruption in the highest echelons of government.

The thing is that murdered journalist wrote a long series of articles about criminal connections of minister of interior, the police president, friends of prime minister and uncovering the schemes of defrauding EU funds etc. Prime minister lives in an apartment complex build by a tax evader who had shared business with the minister of interior who supposedly protected this criminal (e.g. prosecutor who investigated those deals was suspended and charged with "crimes").

It is a big deal, possibly leading to fall of government.

And back to the original question – yes, this country is very corrupt.