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[AerRyan]

Ryanair resuming Shannon at 3pw from May

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryanair-launches-2-new-shannon-routes-to-bristol-liverpool/?market=ie

[AndrewH52]

Also adding Paphos, twice weekly for Winter 18/19

[Keyvon]

New for S19 is Dalaman with TUI.

[EZYPZY]

I believe TUI will be utilising the new easyJet route to Dalaman, so won't be operated on their own metal.

[AndrewH52]

I believe TUI will be utilising the new easyJet route to Dalaman, so won't be operated on their own metal.

I don’t think so. Press release talks quite clearly of DLM as a new service. It also talks of 6,000 seats which suggests something over and above buying capacity on another operator’s aircraft.

[Keyvon]

DLM will be operated by TUI own metal or by a charter airline such as FHY. PMI and IBZ both confirmed for S19. These are not EZY flights but charter flights.

[snn20]

Shannon re-launched today, 32 on LPL-SN and 28 on SNN-LPL

[barry lloyd]

LPL is gearing up for a busy weekend of charter flights:

40 outbound on Friday 25th and Saturday 26th and 41 returning on 27th. South African Airways and Ethiopian Airways :cool: are operating several of the charters.

[AndrewH52]

LPL is gearing up for a busy weekend of charter flights:

40 outbound on Friday 25th and Saturday 26th and 41 returning on 27th. South African Airways and Ethiopian Airways :cool: are operating several of the charters.

More like 30 and 31.

[Navpi]

And having travelled over from Kings Lynn to see friends AND take in the football the weather forecast is now a shocker for Friday Saturday. After 3 weeks of sun you could not make this up !

[chockablock]

More like 30 and 31.

Do you have any idea from what time they will be departing for Kyiv?

[LGS6753]

First positioning flights on Friday am:
0700 Wind Rose ex-Kiev
0725 TUI (Netherlands) ex-AMS
0730 Vueling ex-BCN
0740 Titan ex-Tarbes
0745 Vueling ex-BCN
0900 SAA ex-FRA
0920 Ethiopian ex-CDG

[chaps1954]

All the Ethiopian flights from LPL and MAN have been cancelled due to slot problems at Kiev

[eggc]

All the Ethiopian flights from LPL and MAN have been cancelled due to slot problems at Kiev

...leaving 1,000 Liverpool fans without a flight !

Radio 5 live reported Kiev have a problem with the size of the aircraft, which is a bit odd if one of the others is a 346 !

All is not lost and massive efforts underway to resurrect the flights.

I think they'll happen still...

[chaps1954]

I totally agree otherwise a total cock up somewhere down the line, fingers crossed for the fans who have saved up for the trip of a lifetime

[chockablock]

LGS6753 Thanks for the reply.

...leaving 1,000 Liverpool fans without a flight !

Radio 5 live reported Kiev have a problem with the size of the aircraft, which is a bit odd if one of the others is a 346 !

All is not lost and massive efforts underway to resurrect the flights.

I think they'll happen still...

Is that an a340 from Liverpool?

[jon01]

Ethiopian is operating out of Liverpool

25MAY 09:45/14:25 ETH8700/8702 B789 ET-AUO

[BHX5DME]

Taken from the worldchoicesport.com (http://worldchoicesport.com) website cancelling 3 ET flights citing Kiev to blame.Sky News also running a story in it ...24/05/18 15:00 UPDATE –IMPORTANT UPDATE 24/05/2018 – CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL 26TH MAY 2018Dear customers,With deep regret, we have had to cancel three flights to KievDue to so many flights going into Kiev, Kiev Borispyl has been unable to allocate times for aircraft.We have worked extremely hard over the last 48 hours trying to resolve these issues. We have had Liverpool football club, Police, UEFA and everyone at the highest levels of authority trying to resolve this.We have exhausted all avenues to try and get landing slots. We have had them from Liverpool airport and Manchester airport and we have applied for slots in the correct manner and time frame with the authorities. To reiterate this problem IS with Kiev.Flight numbers affected and cancelled:25th May ET8700 27th May ET870126TH May ET8704 27TH May ET870526th May ET8706 27Th May ET8707ALL OTHER FLIGHTS ARE UNAFFECTED. You will have received etickets via email in the last week or so.THE FOLLOWING FLIGHTS ARE UNAFFECTED AND HAVE BEEN TICKETED:25/05/18 LIVERPOOL – KIEV 7W7776 08:00 – 13:00 —- 27/05/18 KIEV – LIVERPOOL 7W7775 16:00 – 17:3025/05/18 LIVERPOOL – KIEV VY4002 09:00 – 14:20 —– 27/05/18 KIEV – LIVERPOOL VY4030 16:10 – 17:5525/05/18 LIVERPOOL – KIEV 7W7774 20:00- 01:00 —– 27/05/18 KIEV – LIVERPOOL 7W7775 07:05 – 08:3526/05/18 LIVERPOOL – KIEV SA2975 10:10 – 15:20 —– 27/05/18 KIEV – LIVERPOOL SA2974 12:50 – 13:5526/05/18 MANCHESTER- KIEV XLF0960 11:00 – 16:25 —– 27/05/18 KIEV – MANCHESTER XLF0961 02:30 – 04:0026/05/18 HEATHROW- KIEV SA2967 10:00 – 15:10 —– 27/05/18 KIEV – HEATHROW SA2969 10:00 – 18:0025/05/18 LIVERPOOL – KIEV BUR925 23:00 – 04:30 —– 27/05/18 KIEV – LIVERPOOL BUR926 02:30 – 04:00At this stage we can only make a huge apology and are very sorry let you down on this occasion. We will be processing full refunds of monies paid as soon as possible, starting tomorrow. If you have booked online, this will be refunded to the same payment method. If you have paid by cash, we will issue a cheque.GOT A QUESTION? IT HAS PROBABLY BEEN ASKED BEFORE. PLEASE CHECK OUR FAQs (https://worldchoicesport.com/faqs/).NEW IMPORTANT OFFICIAL INFORMATION FOR ALL LFC SUPPORTERS – CLICK THIS

[Trav a la]

They could refuse a biz jet with say 6 passengers to allow an A350 with 350 proper supporters couldn't they? or is that too logical!

[chaps1954]

An ETH 787 has just turned up at Liverpool so where next?

Ian

[buzz_hornet]

Kiev for fonal

[GrahamK]

Wideroe launching a 2 x weekly Bergen service later in the summer using the brand new E-Jets

[AndrewH52]

Wideroe launching a 2 x weekly Bergen service later in the summer using the brand new E-Jets

Operating Monday and Fridays from 17/8 with E.190s

[CabinCrewe]

...what do we think the longevity of that particular route will be? Had there been any historical pairing?

[LAX_LHR]

The route should be fine. Wideroe have been serving LPL as-hoc for some time, and know the market well. It’s a great little coup for LPL this route, and I predict this could also lead to a route to Stavanger if BGO goes well.

routes to the North West tend to do well for Scandinavia, bolstered by football traffic.

[SWBKCB]

So, Liverpool will be away first weekend of the season? I predict it will run until at least May 2019! :ok:

[lfc84]

just like norwegian did well ?

[gilesdavies]

Does Blue Air still have an aircraft based at Liverpool this year?

I remember is raised a few eyebrows when they started the bucket and spade routes last year, while competing with Ryanair and easyJet.

[MKY661]

Does Blue Air still have an aircraft based at Liverpool this year?

I remember is raised a few eyebrows when they started the bucket and spade routes last year, while competing with Ryanair and easyJet.


Yes they do. Also see tons of advertising on Buses and train stations.

[Seljuk22]

Wizz Air to launch Bucharest (3 weekly), Cluj (2 weekly) and Iasi (2 weekly) from winter
https://wizzair.com/en-gb/information-and-services/about-us/news/2018/07/27/wizz-air-announces-three-new-routes-from-liverpool-to-romania#/

[Scottie Dog]

How’s wideroe doing anyone know? Also given the soon to be increased competition with wizz on the Romanian routes anyone know how blue air will react to them

Maybe it's a little early to be asking about Wideroe as they have only started their Liverpool service today. Presumably there may have been a few dignatories on the first flight.

[AndrewH52]

Ryanair is adding CPH twice weekly from April 2019. Also confirmed that PFO will continue for the summer as well (first flight was today).

[FFHKG]

Wilderoe changing aircraft from an Embraer E190 to a Dash Q400 from 18th Jan to 29th March 2018

[Bearpit]

Does anyone know if Blue Air still basing aircraft in S19. Nothing on sale and the Larnaca is showing "sold out" in April. Given other recent cuts from non-UK carriers, be no surprise.

[fjencl]

Still no flights available to book past March 2019 for Blue air …………...

[160to4DME]

OTP is the only Blue destination showing past the end of March currently.

[MKY661]

CLJ is now on sale, however I've heard on another forum that it's likely they will only be operating the two Romanian routes for S19

[CabinCrewe]

CLJ is now on sale, however I've heard on another forum that it's likely they will only be operating the two Romanian routes for S19
Now confirmed. Shame.

[PPRuNeUser0176]

Wizz Air to begin 3 weekly Varna service from 1 July until 13 September when it reduces to 2 weekly for the rest of summer schedule.

[fjencl]

Now confirmed. Shame.

Where is it confirmed !!!!

Was it a press release or what...…..just wondering

Thanks

[Chris_747]

Where is it confirmed !!!!

Was it a press release or what...…..just wondering

Thanks

Airlines don't generally do press releases about dropped routes, unless the press pick up on it and run a story

[MKY661]

Covered by Routesonline:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/282828/blue-air-downsizes-liverpool-service-in-s19/

[mufc4evr]

Hi

Last few weeks there has been an AN-26 flying LPL-PAD. Anyone know what it's for?

[compton3bravo]

Urgent car parts, a Jota 146 has been doing the same. Stocking up for possible supply disruption.

[ETOPS]

Second time this week my breakfast cup of tea has been rattled by the sound of a heavy turboprop ( badly out of sync :hmm: ) passing over my house. FR24 reveals it is the RAF-Avia AN26 Yl-RAD. It's a pretty distinctive sound..........

PS I live on the Cheshire/Derbyshire border and it was at FL180 - yikes! How loud is that thing :eek:

[easyflyer83]

It’s the AN 26.

I live on the Greater Manchester/Derbyshire border and it is pretty loud.

[ATNotts]

Urgent car parts, a Jota 146 has been doing the same. Stocking up for possible supply disruption.

Hardly, more likely line stops.

If you're going to stock parts ahead of 29th March then the volumes involved, and the time currently left before "B-Day", make trucking them the most efficient / cheapest option, and since the motor industry is run by bean counters they won't be spending money needlessly on logistics.

[BACsuperVC10]

Blue Islands are going to starting an ATR72 service GCI-LPL-GCI from 21 May to 14 Sep Tues and Sat

[compton3bravo]

There was a Vulcan Air An-26 in on the 12th as well according to Wynne Aviation Services Twitter feed. You will also see the number of car related flights recently.handled by the company.

[BACsuperVC10]

There was a Vulcan Air An-26 in on the 12th as well according to Wynne Aviation Services Twitter feed. You will also see the number of car related flights recently.handled by the company.

I must get to see this landing/taking off sometime....love to hear the sound !

[FFHKG]

From media reports, it appears Blue Air's decision to close its operation at LPL is down to the uncertainty caused by Brexit and the difficulty of operating from the UK to Europe after March unless they have a UK registered operators licence. As LPL is their only UK base, that would, no doubt, be uneconomic for a one plane operation.

[southside bobby]

Also mentioned Blue Air LTN-Turin...

[BACsuperVC10]

I believe the Eastern European flights will still run, but sad to see their based aircraft go.

[CCFAIRPORT]

New airline and new destination

laudamotion

vienna to liverpool 2pw

begins oct 2019

[BACsuperVC10]

Thats good news for Liverpool, after Blue Air finished their non Eastern European routes.

[Cautious Optimist]

Any truth to the rumour that both DSA and LPL have been put up for sale today??

[BACsuperVC10]

Any truth to the rumour that both DSA and LPL have been put up for sale today??
​​​ive not read anything elsewhere or seen any announcements about this.

[BACsuperVC10]

The news rail link from Chester / North Wales into Liverpool Lime Street is beginning to be promoted by Transport for Wales. The service will benefit passengers travelling to Liverpool Airport by was of calling at Liverpool South Parkway where an airport bus link is provided.

[BACsuperVC10]

So, Liverpool will be away first weekend of the season? I predict it will run until at least May 2019! :ok:

route seems to be doing ok, its bookable into 2020 . I also went for a weekend to Bergen in December, the outbound was a tad light, return was full.

[BACsuperVC10]

LPL-JER with Easyjet now bookable for winter season .

[BACsuperVC10]

Very busy period for LPL coming up soon with many LPL-MAD flights 31 May ,1,2 June. Big variety of aircraft inc Ethiopian Airlines 787, Corseair 747, several A330/340s or Iberia some 767s plus usual A320 size aircraft, Older MD80 will be operating too

[eggc]

I saw Ethiopian is opertaing ex MAN along with a South African Airways A340-600 ?

Looks like Vueling are basing 3 a/c at LPL for those days, operating all day long shuttles between LPL and MAD. IBE have many flights to as you mention, including several heavies.

[chaps1954]

I believe the Ethiopian is the Man schedule flight which will do a standard turnround to Madrid and return in time for evening departure and yes South African is coming to Manchester

[BACsuperVC10]

I understand the Liverpool departing Ethiopian 787 is a Paris aircraft, which I think was the same for the Kiev flights.

[pabely]

I'm amazed IB have so much spare capacity with what it planned for Liverpool & London, but they have been planning for this for at least 2 years now!

[BACsuperVC10]

I hope I can pop down to the airport over at least one of the days to see some of the activity.

[BACsuperVC10]

On a different note, I have noticed Wizzair have used the A321 quite often of late.

[BACsuperVC10]

Very busy weekend coming up for Liverpool with numerous Madrid flights, quite a few heavies operating including Virgin , Ethiopian, Iberia, Air Austral and Corse Air (747).

[BACsuperVC10]

Virgin A330, Corse Air 747, Ethiopian 787 all departing LPL-MAD today around mid day, amongst other departures all day. Vueling have A320/21 based over the period.

[yeo valley]

The same in BRS with the A321 used more than the A320. Has Wizzair pax numbers grown or have they some A320 out of service.

[Severn]

Fri 31st May - Football flights to Madrid
Today saw 16x commercial departures to Madrid, along with 1x biz-jet

Scheduled
easyJet A32N (G-UZHD) - scheduled departure to MAD

Charter
Vueling A320 (EC-MVE) - Arrived from BCN, departed to MAD
Vueling A321 (EC-MLM) - Arrived from BCN, departed to MAD, arrived from MAD, departed to MAD, arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
Vueling A321 (EC-MPV) - Arrived from BCN, departed to MAD, arrived from MAD to overnight
Vueling A321 (EC-MRF) - Arrived from BCN, departed to MAD, arrived from MAD, departed to MAD, arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
Virgin Atlantic A333 (G-VLUV) - Arrived from LHR, departed to MAD
Maleth-Aero B733 (9H-ZAK) - Arrived from ALC
Ryanair B738 (EI-FTZ) - Departed to MAD, arrived from MAD, departed to MAD, arrived from MAD
Corsair International B744 (F-HSEA) - Arrived from ORY, departed to MAD
Titan Airways B752 (G-ZAPX) - Arrived from STN, departed to MAD
Aeronexus Corporate B763 (ZS-NEX) - Overnighted, departed to MAD
Ethiopian Airlines B789 (ET-AUP) - Arrived from CDG, departed to MAD

----

Manchester also saw a scheduled RYR departure and an Ethiopian Airlines B788 charter to MAD

[Navpi]

Have to say it's been poor compared to previous airlifts.

[AndrewH52]

Have to say it's been poor compared to previous airlifts.

There are a further 23 departures to Madrid today (1st June) including an Air Austral B773 and Iberia A332. More flights overall than both Kiev and Athens.

[AirportPlanner1]

Have to say it's been poor compared to previous airlifts.

What are you expecting? A lot of airlines that used to take part in this stuff have gone to the wall. It’s also Half Term so TUI, Jet2, TC etc are fully engaged. Not to mention the Max issues compounding shortages of spare capacity.

Also in the old days it’d be charters or nothing. Now you have options. You can just jump on Ryanair to Gdansk or Naples or wherever they go then take another easyjet or Ryanair or Wizz to Madrid or somewhere else in Spain.

[eggc]

The best ever was incoming traffic with the final at OT in 2003 - what a day that was. Lets hope Liverpool or Manchester can host the final again soon...and good luck Liverpool tonight :)

[Severn]

Sat 1st June - Football flights to Madrid

Today saw 23x commercial departures to Madrid, along with 5x biz-jets

Charter

Aigle Azur A320 (F-HAAF) - Arrived from ORY, departed to MAD
Air Austral B77W (F-OLRE) - Arrived from CDG, departed to MAD
Air Europa B738 (EC-LQX) - Arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
Air Europa B738 (EC-MQP) - Arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
Air Europa B738 (EC-MUZ) - Arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
Air Europa Express E195 (EC-LCQ) - Arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
ALK Airlines B733 (LZ-MVK) - Arrived from SOF, departed to MAD
ALK Airlines MD82 (LZ-DEO) - Arrived from SOF, departed to MAD
Enter Air B738 (SP-ENU) - Arrived from MME, departed to MAD
Enter Air B738 (SP-ESG) - Arrived from WAW, departed to MAD
Iberia A321 (EC-IJN) - Arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
Iberia A321 (EC-JRE) - Arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
Iberia A332 (EC-MLP) - Arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
Iberia Express A320 (EC-LKG) - Arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
Iberia Express A320 (EC-MUK) - Arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
Maleth-Aero B733 (9H-ZAK) - Overnighted, departed to MAD
Ryanair B738 (EI-FTZ) - Overnighted, departed to MAD, arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
Vueling A321 (EC-MLM) - Arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
Vueling A321 (EC-MPV) - Overnighted, departed to MAD, arrived from MAD, departed to MAD
Vueling A321 (EC-MRF) - Arrived from MAD, departed to MAD, arrived from MAD, departed to MAD

----

Manchester also saw a scheduled RYR departure plus an Enter Air B738 and an Iberia A332 charter to MAD

[BACsuperVC10]

Have to say it's been poor compared to previous airlifts.

Sorry I wouldn't agree, there was a great mix of aircraft and airlines . The Corse Air 744 , plus Virgin and Iberia A332 , Ethiopian 788 and 777 from Austral. Pretty exciting stuff I'd say.

[chaps1954]

The Austral is the highlight nothing else really that exciting other than the Iberia A330 and maybe the Corseair B747 even though over years
have been to most british airports that can handle B747

[SWBKCB]

Were all these viewable from the Spectators Balcony? :ok:

[compton3bravo]

Maybe Navpi was hoping for Sterling Caravelles and Spantax Coronado's!! Very impressive operation me thinks.

[BACsuperVC10]

Were all these viewable from the Spectators Balcony? :ok:

Good spot at end of the Runway 27....or spend the day in Speke Hall NT...enjoy gardens and view of runway 09. 😀

[BACsuperVC10]

Maybe Navpi was hoping for Sterling Caravelles and Spantax Coronado's!! Very impressive operation me thinks.

Nice bit of extra business for Liverpool Airport too.

[BACsuperVC10]

Liverpool Airport is due to announce a new route today.

[Dct_Mopas]

Liverpool Airport is due to announce a new route today.

TFS (Tenerife) as a new winter only route for easyJet. Twice weekly.

[BACsuperVC10]

TFS (Tenerife) as a new winter only route for easyJet. Twice weekly.

Yes so it is, outbound 1325/2310 Weds / Sats
returns 1840/2310

[BACsuperVC10]

Wideroe are adding a 3rd flight Bergen-Liverpool-Bergen, as of November the extra flight will run on Sundays.

[davidjohnson6]

Alsie Express are running a charter over the weeked of 8/11 November from Sonderborg in Denmark. Sonderborg has a metro population of about 75,000 so definitely not a large city. Alsie normally fly shuttles back and forth between Sonderborg and either Copenhagen or (in summer) the Danish holiday island of Bornholm, which is a bit like a Danish version of the Isle of Wight

Liverpool are playing at home to Manchester City on 9 November, so presumably aimed at the football crowd. Publicly available match tickets seem to have all sold out so this might have an effect on demand for flights... !

[BACsuperVC10]

There seems to be quite a bit of interest from Scandinavia for flights to Liverpool for football. Charters are quite regular, plus there is the Wideroe service from Bergen, which will increase this winter.

[lfc84]

The weekly Adria service to Ljubljana switches from Manchester to Liverpool in 2020 and increases to 2 x weekly

[BACsuperVC10]

Good to see another Eastern European route from Liverpool.

[CabinCrewe]

MAN-LPL switch on a CR9....
Mmm, we'll see if that lasts

[eye2eye5]

And the underlying statistics backing up your post are what, Cabin Crewe? Please advise how many passengers using the MAN - Ljubljana would be averse to using LPL- Ljubljana given the short distance between the two airports?

[paully]

The passengers will certainly get a better airport experience, thats for sure.

[BACsuperVC10]

MAN-LPL switch on a CR9....
Mmm, we'll see if that lasts



Why would you say that !? Wideroe another new route has been doing quite nicely and have been running LPL-BGO for over a year now, just adding a 3rd rotation too.

[BACsuperVC10]

There are series of departures by Eurowings : - Liverpool - Salzburg 09 Dec 10.50, 10 Dec 08.00 11 Dec 08.30 and 12 Dec 02.50. A319

[160to4DME]

MAN-LPL switch on a CR9....
Mmm, we'll see if that lasts


Why would you say that !? .

Can't for the life of me think of a reason...

Oh, hold on; last night's Adria Ljubljana to Vienna, with 38 booked on it, was cancelled because on arrival, the Austrian authorities were going to impound the aircraft for non-payment of EU261.

Yes, Adria really is that much of a basket case right now.

Adria Airways had yesterday at the last minute to cancel an evening flight from Ljubljana to Vienna. Reason? At the finish they waited for bailiffs and police officers who were trying from our airline to recover outstanding debts. But the plane never arrived in Vienna.

https://siol.net/posel-danes/novice/sodni-izvrsitelji-in-policija-nad-letalo-adrie-let-odpovedan-506468

[BACsuperVC10]

Can't for the life of me think of a reason...

Oh, hold on; last night's Adria Ljubljana to Vienna, with 38 booked on it, was cancelled because on arrival, the Austrian authorities were going to impound the aircraft for non-payment of EU261.

Yes, Adria really is that much of a basket case right now.



https://siol.net/posel-danes/novice/sodni-izvrsitelji-in-policija-nad-letalo-adrie-let-odpovedan-506468

What was implied was Adria would do better at MAN than LPL. Nothing to do with the airline itself.

[160to4DME]

I got the implication that rearranging the deck chairs was in no way going to help the airline get out of what looks like terminal woes (excuse the pun...)

[AndrewH52]

It's been announced today that Peel and Liverpool City Council have sold a combined 45% stake in Liverpool Airport (35% Peel, 10% LCC). The buyer is a London-based infrastructure investment manager, Alcana.

Peel and Liverpool City Council sell 45% stake in Liverpool Airport (https://lbndaily.co.uk/peel-liverpool-city-council-sell-45-stake-liverpool-airport/)

Will be interesting to see if this leads to any release of funds for additional investment in facilities.

[barry lloyd]

It's been announced today that Peel and Liverpool City Council have sold a combined 45% stake in Liverpool Airport (35% Peel, 10% LCC). The buyer is a London-based infrastructure investment manager, Alcana.

Peel and Liverpool City Council sell 45% stake in Liverpool Airport (https://lbndaily.co.uk/peel-liverpool-city-council-sell-45-stake-liverpool-airport/)

Will be interesting to see if this leads to any release of funds for additional investment in facilities.

Or, given Alcana's raison d'être, a lot of wind turbines and solar panels where the runway is now?

https://www.ancala.com/

[SWBKCB]

Doesn't seem to be a lot of airport experience.

[lurkio]

Other than making life difficult for them by putting up effin great turbines next door.

[BACsuperVC10]

Wizz Air are using A321s more next year, increases to Liverpool / Bucharest / Budapest / Warsaw.

[160to4DME]

Adria filed for bankruptcy and liquidation.

[BACsuperVC10]

Arrivals this morning from Austria :-

CAJ 1516 at 08.56 from Linz A330
FPO 879 at 09.25 from Salzburg
V3 8066 at 09.20 from Linz
CAJ 1518 at 09.50 from Linz A330

[eye2eye5]

For connoisseurs of old props, there will be no fewer than four Ukrainian registered AN12s at Liverpool by 14.30. Two are due out by 16.00 so photo opportunities are limited. One is AOG, freight carried thought to be motor parts. Thoughts are with their colleagues who lost their lives in Ukraine earlier today.

[BACsuperVC10]

Laudamotions new Liverpool to Vienna route began this evening. It operates twice weekly.

[PAXboy]

Passenger on wrong EasyJet flight causes Liverpool Airport security scare
Says BBC, although I doubt it was much of a scare.
Passengers were forced to disembark from a plane and wait alongside it while it was searched after a traveller boarded the wrong jet by mistake.The man had been due to travel from Liverpool to Belfast with EasyJet at 07:40 GMT but instead boarded the 07:40 flight to Jersey.The security error, which one passenger called "pathetic", meant the Jersey flight was delayed by about 25 minutes.

EasyJet said it was investigating how the mistake had happened.
At a guess, any of a dozen ways!! :ugh:

But it is yet another reminder to all carriers that Pax just can't wait to use their phones to tell the world what happened and, conseqeuntly, the need to be ready to respond in a mature fashion.

[easyflyer83]

I wouldn’t say neither airline or airport responded in non mature manner.

[Donkeygone]

Oops. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-50740693

Anyone looked up the METAR?

[eye2eye5]

Two new routes announced today for Summer 2020:

easyJet to Antalya
Lauda to Zadar

[BACsuperVC10]

Good to hear. : - )

[BACsuperVC10]

4 Wizz Air routes from LPL are to be A321 for 2020, Budapest being an A321neo.

[BACsuperVC10]

Oslo is a very frequent charter into Liverpool, seems to me this could easily move to a scheduled service, possibly a good choice for Wideroe to add.

[BACsuperVC10]

First visit of EMB Praetor 500 from Stansted today at 11.15hrs

[BACsuperVC10]

Looks like Loganair will take over Flybe's LPL-IOM route.

[BACsuperVC10]

Wideroe is still operating Bergen - Liverpool - Bergen at present. I thought they may have postponed services with current situation, plus they carry quite a bit of football traffic.

[Severn]

easyJet aircraft to LPL for storage
All 7x BFS based easyJet aircraft are planned to position to LPL today for storage (1x A319/6x A320)

[BACsuperVC10]

Wideroe have been operating their Bergen to Liverpool schedule over the Easter period on Good Friday Easter Sunday and today. There now appears to be a gap until August........but who knows. Wizzair's flights stopped recently, Loganair to IOM persists twice a day using E145s. All passenger operations while the Corvid19 restrictions continue have moved from the main terminal building to the XLR terminal . You access this by turning right at the airport roundabout rather than more usual left.

[LTNman]

So why would Wideroe be operating flights over Easter, essential travel for those that can’t travel to holiday homes in the UK?

[Rutan16]

Their are a few oil workers that use the service , however it main purpose has been to bring Norwegian premier league football fans and bargain shoppers into the North West over weekend period. Suspension until the proposed start of the 2020/21 season is no coincidence

[AirportPlanner1]

Wideroe have done some repatriation in the last week or so from STN including to Oslo which isn’t a normal destination. So that could be the purpose of the Bergen flights, again making use of Liverpool as an airport they already use so probably already have handling in place at.

[116d]

Their are a few oil workers that use the service , however it main purpose has been to bring Norwegian premier league football fans and bargain shoppers into the North West over weekend period. Suspension until the proposed start of the 2020/21 season is no coincidence

There's no guarantee the new season will start in August and nor is it certain football matches being played in front of a crowd will be allowed by then.

The current thinking is to resume the current season in order to finish it off as soon as it's safe to do so and probably behind closed doors. June is the current earliest estimate, but nobody really knows. Either way, next season is likely to start late.

[Rutan16]

There's no guarantee the new season will start in August and nor is it certain football matches being played in front of a crowd will be allowed by then.

The current thinking is to resume the current season in order to finish it off as soon as it's safe to do so and probably behind closed doors. June is the current earliest estimate, but nobody really knows. Either way, next season is likely to start late.

Personal perspective only .Couldn't really care less if and when the Football season finishes or starts . 22 men kicking a bag of wind isn’t my thing !

[BACsuperVC10]

The next LPL-BGO flights are in the system for August, of course this could change.

[BACsuperVC10]

Wideroe have done some repatriation in the last week or so from STN including to Oslo which isn’t a normal destination. So that could be the purpose of the Bergen flights, again making use of Liverpool as an airport they already use so probably already have handling in place at.

i think they were repatriated flights.

[SWBKCB]

The next LPL-BGO flights are in the system for August, of course this could change.

It has - one inbound at the moment.

[BACsuperVC10]

Wideroe are operating a Bergen service today at 12.40 WF381

[BACsuperVC10]

The last Bergen flight went last Friday 1 May, now seems a gap before they restart, but of course could change. Wizz Air is due to re-starts ops next week.

[FRatSTN]

I know it's early days and still alot can change, but, does anybody know if EZY is looking to reduce the Liverpool base for S21?

It's just that the initial release up to May 4th next year shows a number of reduced frequencies on several routes, notably BCN (12 to 8x pw), CDG (daily to 5x pw) and GVA (5 to 3x pw) amongst others, as well as what looks to be the ending of services to SXF/BER, NAP and PMO.

No other base in the UK seems to have these kinds of reductions, mirroring almost exactly what's in the current schedule end of May/early June this year; So all the more curious.

The schedule still looks to require 8x aircraft on certain days, but with some re-jigging it could easily be done with at least one fewer aircraft in the based fleet. Anybody aware of anything?

[flyerguy]

I know it's early days and still alot can change, but, does anybody know if EZY is looking to reduce the Liverpool base for S21?

It's just that the initial release up to May 4th next year shows a number of reduced frequencies on several routes, notably BCN (12 to 8x pw), CDG (daily to 5x pw) and GVA (5 to 3x pw) amongst others, as well as what looks to be the ending of services to SXF/BER, NAP and PMO.

No other base in the UK seems to have these kinds of reductions, mirroring almost exactly what's in the current schedule end of May/early June this year; So all the more curious.

The schedule still looks to require 8x aircraft on certain days, but with some re-jigging it could easily be done with at least one fewer aircraft in the based fleet. Anybody aware of anything?

I think possibly EZY have extended routes out of manchester including CDG, BCN and GVA which are all performing well out of Manchester - under normal circumstances. So they may just be rejigging a few frequencies between LPL and MAN. We have seen EZY add routes to Liverpool though, so maybe a few more bucket and spade routes might fill the gap.

[BACsuperVC10]

I think the LPL- BFS route may have increased have seen up to 8 a day.

[AndrewH52]

CDG was only 5pwk peak summer 2019. BCN was 11 and GVA 7 so some reductions but to be honest surely to be expected.

[BACsuperVC10]

I know it's early days and still alot can change, but, does anybody know if EZY is looking to reduce the Liverpool base for S21?

It's just that the initial release up to May 4th next year shows a number of reduced frequencies on several routes, notably BCN (12 to 8x pw), CDG (daily to 5x pw) and GVA (5 to 3x pw) amongst others, as well as what looks to be the ending of services to SXF/BER, NAP and PMO.

No other base in the UK seems to have these kinds of reductions, mirroring almost exactly what's in the current schedule end of May/early June this year; So all the more curious.

The schedule still looks to require 8x aircraft on certain days, but with some re-jigging it could easily be done with at least one fewer aircraft in the based fleet. Anybody aware of anything?

If there is space available with the aircraft, It wouldn't surprise me is they add a new destination.

[BACsuperVC10]

Wizz Air are now operating to Budapest W6 221 at 21.40 departing tonight.

[BACsuperVC10]

Wizz Air are now operating to Budapest W6 221 at 21.40 departing tonight.

Operating again tonight at 21.55 W6 2211

[BACsuperVC10]

Easyjet are starting up again with Liverpool to Isle of Man and to Belfast as of 16 June 20.

[BACsuperVC10]

Liverpool to Varna restarts this evening. Budapest has been running for a few weeks now.

[BACsuperVC10]

29 Oct, new route from Wizz , Liverpool to Bacau.

[SeanM1997]

Wizz to cut its Cluj - Liverpool route from 27 June 2020

[BACsuperVC10]

Restarts from Wizz are : This Thurs 18th Bucharest and Warsaw , Iasi on Saturday 20th and Katowice 4 Ju!y.

[FRatSTN]

Been an unconfirmed report of potentially 90 cabin crew jobs at risk for Liverpool. Without wanting to start too much speculation, that would result in the loss of about 3 based aircraft. Hopefully not the case for the sake of those staff.

[davidjohnson6]

Flyerguy - that really should not be in a public forum

[LTNman]

Don’t know why not, the staff clearly know and Easyjet have already announced 5,000 job loses so it isn’t a secret.

[flyerguy]

Flyerguy - that really should not be in a public forum

And a public forum is exactly where it’s from

[scodaman]

Ryanair Liverpool to City of Derry LDY restarting this Saturday 04 July.

Flights twice a week on Saturday and Tuesday.

[BACsuperVC10]

Ryanair Liverpool - Dublin also restarted yesterday.

[BACsuperVC10]

Has been some speculation about job losses, however its unlikely that anywhere will pass unscathed during this period. Nothing confirmed regarding aircraft reduction, best to wait and see, rather than speculate.

[BACsuperVC10]

Blue Air is now fly Liverpool - Bucharest route again. A service is due in late tonight.

[BACsuperVC10]

New route, Liverpool - Antalya began yesterday.

[BACsuperVC10]

Liverpool - IOM on Easyjet appears to be returning next month, also Belfast is increasing this month up to 4 per day.

[BACsuperVC10]

NEW ROUTE : Liverpool to Vilnius with Wizz starting 22 Oct. Twice weekly.

[BACsuperVC10]

The Liverpool to Iasi is bookable through to 26 March 2021, some speculation on Twitter that this route was not operating through the winter. It is twice a week. Recently announced Ryanair route to
Kosice twice weekly from 25 Oct 2020 also.

[SeanM1997]

Wizz Air starting Liverpool to Chisinau from 22 October 2020 with 2x weekly flights
https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/1303279890104561665

Wizz Air resuming Liverpool to Cluj from 23 October 2020 with 2x weekly flights
https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/1303280381781839872

[flyerguy]

Wizz seem to have their foot firmly on the ground in Liverpool could we possibly see WizzUk launch 1/2 based aircraft here?

I know Blue Air tried ALC/AGP and a few others out of here, but maybe wizz could give give a few routes a go with their expanding U.K. bases

[BACsuperVC10]

Wizz seem to have their foot firmly on the ground in Liverpool could we possibly see WizzUk launch 1/2 based aircraft here?

I know Blue Air tried ALC/AGP and a few others out of here, but maybe wizz could give give a few routes a go with their expanding U.K. bases

I see know reason why not and do a similar set up at LPL as they have at DSA

[SeanM1997]

I see know reason why not and do a similar set up at LPL as they have at DSA

Although I would love to see Liverpool become a Wizz Air UK base, I think it is unlikely for the foreseeable (opinion only).

London works due to its enormous catchment, Wizz wanting to prove dominance in the large markets (hence bases in Milan and London) and to take on easyJet. Theres also a political point for Wizz at Gatwick - and wanting to prove a point about slots more than being profitable in a market (which they may do at LGW).

Why Doncaster works is there is a lack of competition at the airport. Whilst TUI operate 8 routes which Wizz will operate, they don't rival in product. Whilst they may fly to the same destinations, TUI is for package holidays - normally people who book a year in advance to go away. Wizz are a much more spontaneous buy for the consumer, with shorter booking time and lower prices - aiming at discount savvy travellers whom are happy to put a holiday together and not need every product that TUI offers - ie luggage, hold luggage or sitting together.

Liverpool faces competition from two low-cost carriers - easyJet and Ryanair. Whilst all their offering is different, many routes which Wizz would wish to operate from Liverpool would have competition from either or both these airlines. This competition, targeting similar consumers, leads to lower prices (if not loss making prices) and an unsustainable base. It also leads to some routes being overserved by 2-3 carriers whilst many potentially popular routes are less unserved.

Wizz would probably be best growing Liverpool with away based aircraft. Most routes at LPL don't have a frequency exceeding 2-3 weekly flights, so demand needs to grow on routes to show there is potential for a base.

I wouldn't rule it out but a Wizz Air base may not be best for Liverpool right now - but in the future, there is a real opportunity.

[BACsuperVC10]

Although I would love to see Liverpool become a Wizz Air UK base, I think it is unlikely for the foreseeable (opinion only).

London works due to its enormous catchment, Wizz wanting to prove dominance in the large markets (hence bases in Milan and London) and to take on easyJet. Theres also a political point for Wizz at Gatwick - and wanting to prove a point about slots more than being profitable in a market (which they may do at LGW).

Why Doncaster works is there is a lack of competition at the airport. Whilst TUI operate 8 routes which Wizz will operate, they don't rival in product. Whilst they may fly to the same destinations, TUI is for package holidays - normally people who book a year in advance to go away. Wizz are a much more spontaneous buy for the consumer, with shorter booking time and lower prices - aiming at discount savvy travellers whom are happy to put a holiday together and not need every product that TUI offers - ie luggage, hold luggage or sitting together.

Liverpool faces competition from two low-cost carriers - easyJet and Ryanair. Whilst all their offering is different, many routes which Wizz would wish to operate from Liverpool would have competition from either or both these airlines. This competition, targeting similar consumers, leads to lower prices (if not loss making prices) and an unsustainable base. It also leads to some routes being overserved by 2-3 carriers whilst many potentially popular routes are less unserved.

Wizz would probably be best growing Liverpool with away based aircraft. Most routes at LPL don't have a frequency exceeding 2-3 weekly flights, so demand needs to grow on routes to show there is potential for a base.

I wouldn't rule it out but a Wizz Air base may not be best for Liverpool right now - but in the future, there is a real opportunity.

I think Wizz needs to be a bit savy as to destination picks, there are opportunities beyond their Eastern European selection which are unserved from LPL or under capacity this is because both Easyjet and Ryanair have not done much about it or even moved the route. These could include destinations like Lisbon and Berlin (longstanding successful routes Easyet have or willl drop or move to MAN )
There are some gaps in Italian destinations too. In a normal year the popular Med routes like Palma Malaga, Alicante etc are daily or more from both FR and EZY so the sun routes are popular too . However these are strange times, so have to wait and see !

[BACsuperVC10]

Wizz seem to have their foot firmly on the ground in Liverpool could we possibly see WizzUk launch 1/2 based aircraft here?

I know Blue Air tried ALC/AGP and a few others out of here, but maybe wizz could give give a few routes a go with their expanding U.K. bases

I think Blue Air's problem was they were unknown beyond their normal client base. A friend of mine booked a ticket to Alicante with them, he said he saw it on the Internet and thought it was a hoax and was unsure to book it. He did and said they were v good compared to the normal offering.

[All names taken]

My fairly limited useage to Wizz flights leads me to conclude that they are a downmarket version of Ryanair. I have particular concerns about the training and professionalism of the CC, Drunkeness and bawdiness were a concern for me and my travelling companions. Probably ok for stag and hen doooz at the lowest possible price... but even those days are over for now.

[BACsuperVC10]

I've never flown on Wizz yet, but I will do once they offer a route that is useful to me from LPL

[OC37]

they are a downmarket version of Ryanair.

That's not possible!

[BACsuperVC10]

Ryanair have upped their frequency on LPL-VNO to 3 per week. This will be in response to Wizz coming onto this route too.

[MKY661]

Appears EasyJet will only be operating Belfast, Jersey, Amsterdam, Krakow, Lanzarote & Tenerife between Mid November and Mid December, with the Canaries being weekly flights. Subject to change of course.

[G-FORZ]

Appears EasyJet will only be operating Belfast, Jersey, Amsterdam, Krakow, Lanzarote & Tenerife between Mid November and Mid December, with the Canaries being weekly flights. Subject to change of course. I can see this also with a flight search, yet I’ve had no notification from Easyjet that booked flight to Fuerteventura 28/11/20 is cancelled

[MANFAN]

Appears EasyJet will only be operating Belfast, Jersey, Amsterdam, Krakow, Lanzarote & Tenerife between Mid November and Mid December, with the Canaries being weekly flights. Subject to change of course.

I hope the schedule increases post mid December. We have friends flying to Malaga from Liverpool on 21/12 to meet us (we fly from Manchester on the same day also with EZY).

[BACsuperVC10]

The LPL-BUD service has been pushed back to 2 Nov, also the days of operation will become Mondays and Fridays , not Tuesdays and Saturdays as previously.

[BACsuperVC10]

Wizz Air began Liverpool to Cluj-Napoca yesterday.

[OltonPete]

Wizz Air began Liverpool to Cluj-Napoca yesterday.

......and ends Monday after 2 flights! Don't panic reinstated from Monday 14th December.

Budapest now 23rd November

You will find most Eastern European routes have frequency cuts through to mid-December, not just Liverpool but across the board in the UK (Luton doesn't look too bad) for November.

Pete

[BACsuperVC10]

No LPL-BGO flights available until 16 Aug 21, obviously not expecting anything to improve fast.

[All names taken]

No LPL-BGO flights available until 16 Aug 21, obviously not expecting anything to improve fast.

It's just a football charter for fans, so there's no need for the flight.
That date probably gives us some indication of when fans might be allowed back in to stadia - could be pushed back further too.

[BACsuperVC10]

It's just a football charter for fans, so there's no need for the flight.
That date probably gives us some indication of when fans might be allowed back in to stadia - could be pushed back further too.

Its not a charter its a scheduled service, ( Friday, Sunday and Mondays ), they used to operate charters in the past from Bergen and elsewhere in Norway. It is used by a lot of football fans, but not entirely .

[BACsuperVC10]

118,800 scheduled service passengers used Liverpool in September, just under 1000 charter flight passengers also on top of that figure.
73% down

[southside bobby]

& so to date...
Passenger numbers to fall dramatically as Liverpool Airport expects passenger numbers to be as low as "several hundred a day" during lockdown -98% yoy.
The airport is asking Government to look at packages of support to keep airports open & people in jobs.

[BACsuperVC10]

& so to date...
Passenger numbers to fall dramatically as Liverpool Airport expects passenger numbers to be as low as "several hundred a day" during lockdown -98% yoy.
The airport is asking Government to look at packages of support to keep airports open & people in jobs.

Like that's going to happen. November will be a disaster . The only routes that will operate are IOM ,BFS plus 6 routes from FR from12 Nov rising to 11 routes from 1 Dec.

[BACsuperVC10]

An unusual visitor due this afternoon in the form of an RAM B767-300 from Casablanca . Cargo flight due 15.30....could be late.

[BACsuperVC10]

An unusual visitor due this afternoon in the form of an RAM B767-300 from Casablanca . Cargo flight due 15.30....could be late.
Apparently the aircraft was turned round in less than 2 hours which should have pleased RAM. Cargo for local automotive industry.

[BACsuperVC10]

Enter Air are due today at 15.50, normally a fairly regular carrier to Liverpool, but of course not lately. Due 15.50 from BGY

[compton3bravo]

Bringing Atalanta football team and officials for match against Liverpool FC.

[BACsuperVC10]

Enter Air left this morning at 09.30 back to BGY

AN12 arrived this morning at 08.00, saw it on its approach . Motor Sich Airlines Burgas to Liverpool. Probably automotive cargo.

[chaps1954]

See airport is closed most of today reopens about 17.00ish

[BACsuperVC10]

See airport is closed most of today reopens about 17.00ish
There has been fire cover over parts of the day, so I imagine some movements.. biz jet / light aircraft. Not much passenger flights of course, like everywhere.

[chaps1954]

Two Ambulance flights have been turned away and controller at Manchester said airport was shut from mid morning until 19.00 intime for IOM flight

[SWBKCB]

According to NOTAMS, airfield closed 09.45-17.15, RFFS CATEGORY 0

[BACsuperVC10]

Loganair are two hours late, normally 17.15 arrival

3 morning departures tomorrow morning then nothing until 14.20