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SpringHeeledJack
9th Feb 2018, 11:27
Revealed ? the writer Shakespeare plagiarised | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5371307/Revealed-writer-Shakespeare-plagiarised.html)

‘To thine own self be true.’........oh dear! Who'dathunkit ?

ExXB
9th Feb 2018, 11:45
Daily Mail? C’mon, nobody reads that.

jolihokistix
9th Feb 2018, 12:29
Shocking English.
The headline is uncomfortably ambiguous, and this line is plain wrong: "A Brief Discourse of Rebellion & Rebels by George North bares striking similarities..."


Besides, despite the headline, they state he did NOT plagiarize, quote: "Mr McCarthy, 53 claims that the previously unknown source was without a doubt an inspiration for the Bard however they are not suggesting he ever plagiarised North." Unquote.

PDR1
9th Feb 2018, 13:24
I think the Daily Mail copied that story from someone else...

PDR

WingNut60
9th Feb 2018, 13:26
Shocking English.
The headline is uncomfortably ambiguous, and this line is plain wrong: "A Brief Discourse of Rebellion & Rebels by George North bares striking similarities..."


Besides, despite the headline, they state he did NOT plagiarize, quote: "Mr McCarthy, 53 claims that the previously unknown source was without a doubt an inspiration for the Bard however they are not suggesting he ever plagiarised North." Unquote.

But they, at least, did spell "bears" correctly.

treadigraph
9th Feb 2018, 13:51
I thought George North is a winger for Wales...

handysnaks
9th Feb 2018, 14:04
As a resident of the bard's town and a person who regularly has his car MOT'd at the garage where Will used to have his Allegro serviced (and I drink my coffee at the Box Brownie, where He would nip in for a flat white after a hard days graft at the quill), I can safely say that we'll have no truck with that sort of conshie talk around here..

treadigraph
9th Feb 2018, 14:38
As a resident of the bard's town

It was only a Hamlet then...

SpringHeeledJack
9th Feb 2018, 14:46
Daily Mail? C’mon, nobody reads that.

That would dependeth on one's interpretation of 'read' ;-) I find that it provides a good counterpoint to more serious tomes, and of course there are all the lovely colourful photos of our betters and worsers ;-) Whilst Bill didn't directly copy Mr North's work, so as to qualify as a plagiarist, it is amazing that 'our' greatest writer used another's creativity as a close yardstick for their many great works. It seems somehow unbecoming of the Bard.

cavortingcheetah
9th Feb 2018, 16:03
Shakespeare’s plagarisation of another’s literary genius is as contestable as is the theory that what he wrote was written by Christopher Marlowe, who predecessor him, having been stabbed in a tavern brawl.
All of that completely ignores the fact that the Bard relied almost entirely on Holinshed for his historical chronologies and his own sense of self preservation in writing nice things about the usurping Tudors and subsequent Stuart’s.

Loose rivets
9th Feb 2018, 16:10
. . . by Christopher Marlowe, who predecessor him . . . Should that have gadzooks on the end?


I should make no comment. I try and try, but Much ado about nothing I take as the review, not the work. It all leaves me stone cold. But then, so does poetry.

cavortingcheetah
9th Feb 2018, 16:42
Egan’s! What would Willy have done were there spell checker? Would Ophelia have achieved notoriety as Cophrophelia?

Loose rivets
9th Feb 2018, 16:55
Spell checker? It'd be bad enough if Black Adder had gone back in time with his Biro. Or a box thereof. The man would've written far more incomprehensible words.

ORAC
9th Feb 2018, 18:15
https://youtu.be/n1MywHGxMtM

meadowrun
9th Feb 2018, 18:20
Wasn't this question asked right here on this very forum 200 years ago?

Ogre
9th Feb 2018, 21:07
Wasn't this question asked right here on this very forum 200 years ago?

I thought we only just resolved it last year...

to be honest, who cares?

Lonewolf_50
10th Feb 2018, 03:18
Wasn't this question asked right here on this very forum 200 years ago?
That's last year, in dog years. ;)

jolihokistix
10th Feb 2018, 03:31
People have been chipping away at his reputation for many years on many fronts. Next they'll be pulling down his statue.

ORAC
10th Feb 2018, 06:50
Tall poppy syndrome. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome)

Isn’t it strange how all those who complain about cultural appropriation are all proud of their own culturally translated (http://www.african-americanshakes.org/) versions of the Bard....

https://youtu.be/HsCVuO1yeJc

Paultheparaglider
10th Feb 2018, 10:06
Did he, or didn't he? That is the question.

ORAC
10th Feb 2018, 18:43
Not sure how he can be accused of copying other people’s words - from all accounts he invented the vast majority of them...