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RAT 5
7th Feb 2018, 11:18
We have 'Friday Jokes' to release some of the stressful build-ups in everyday life. Why not a 'grumpy old men' thread to do the same and bring a smile? Many threads e.g. '1mph over the limit' bring out these sentiments anyway.

I'll start the ball.

I'm watching highlights on Sky Sports. The editor is a nitwit. Cricket. The highlights condense 6hrs into 1hr minus adverts. The editor decides to show us the same shot e.g.a boundary drive from 4/5 different angles as if the result will be many different. They could have showed us 4 different shots from the 6 hrs instead. Daft.
Football: I've just been watching 90mins condensed into 30 minus adverts. A player gets injured. The editor spent 3-4 mins showing us the tackle from every angle and then the physios on the pitch ands then the stretcher off the pitch and then the replacement jogging on to the pitch. That's >10% of the whole highlights.

I want to watch maximum highlights of real play not the ancillary stuff.

Sallyann1234
7th Feb 2018, 11:51
Wouldn't it be simpler just to rename Jet Blast?

The new title would cover 90% of what is posted here. :=

Pace
7th Feb 2018, 12:32
Would definitely slot nicely into the brexit forum :ok:

Ancient Observer
7th Feb 2018, 12:36
For this Grumpy old man, all white, pale and just a little bit stale, much of what is on tv is crap. I can't think of a great series any more. Even Endaevour is becoming somewhat daft.
But I do like the archaeology stuff, and some other Discovery channel stuff is worth watching.
The American PBS also sometimes puts on interesting progs.

Despite the fact that he used to be a politician, Portillo is worth watching on his rail journeys.

andytug
7th Feb 2018, 12:37
Nice invoking of Farage's law there.

(same as Goodwins Law except for Brexit instead of Hitler)

Uplinker
7th Feb 2018, 12:44
I'm watching highlights on Sky Sports. The editor is a nitwit. Cricket. The highlights condense 6hrs into 1hr minus adverts. The editor decides to show us the same shot e.g.a boundary drive from 4/5 different angles as if the result will be many different. They could have showed us 4 different shots from the 6 hrs instead. Daft.
Football: I've just been watching 90mins condensed into 30 minus adverts. A player gets injured. The editor spent 3-4 mins showing us the tackle from every angle and then the physios on the pitch ands then the stretcher off the pitch and then the replacement jogging on to the pitch. That's >10% of the whole highlights.


And yet people moan like hell about the BBC and the licence fee !!!

The advert funded TV companies have to produce ever more “impressive” coverage to keep viewers’ attention in order to win the advertising contracts. It’s a constant battle to produce so-called better coverage, but it is not better, it is just more brash and attention getting, and in the meantime they have thrown the baby out with the bathwater.

In a gap in my flying career forced on all us employees by mismanagement, leading to the collapse of the company: I have gone back to my first calling of television broadcast engineering to pay the bills. Last weekend I was working at the Liverpool/Spurs match for SKY. They had 27 cameras !!! TWENTY SEVEN cameras for just one ordinary football match - not even a Cup Final or anything !!! Even with an on-site studio, 9 or 10 would be sufficient. No wonder that with so many cameras you can have four or five views of each incident, including a super slow mo.

Every camera is constantly recorded so they can all be replayed, and the people doing the replays and highlights were just young lads really - there were no experienced ‘old hands’. This might be why the coverage is often quite superficial and sort of ‘Wham ! Bam ! look how impressive this is’. (Not).

chevvron
7th Feb 2018, 12:54
For this Grumpy old man, all white, pale and just a little bit stale, much of what is on tv is crap. I can't think of a great series any more. Even Endaevour is becoming somewhat daft.
But I do like the archaeology stuff, and some other Discovery channel stuff is worth watching.
The American PBS also sometimes puts on interesting progs.

Despite the fact that he used to be a politician, Portillo is worth watching on his rail journeys.

Agree about 'Great Railway Journeys' especially the ones from the USA. We've only just got PBS on Freeview and some good progammes there too.
Most British made detective stories (Morse, Midsomer, Frost, Taggart etc) are 1 hour stories crammed into 2 hours so they get boring, but try watching 'Chicago PD' on Freeview 21 if you want to see a good series; maybe 'Chicago Fire' too; they're both made by the same people and the characters often 'cross over' to the other series.

ian16th
7th Feb 2018, 14:25
Even Endaevour is becoming somewhat daft.

Thanks for the spoiler.

I was looking forward to episode 1 of the latest series, tonight.

But I do like the archaeology stuff, and some other Discovery channel stuff is worth watching.

Archaelogy question.

How long does a body have to be in the ground for the crime of grave robbing to be classed as archaelogy?

RAT 5
7th Feb 2018, 15:15
And another thing......

Wouldn't it be simpler just to rename Jet Blast?
The new title would cover 90% of what is posted here.

The idea was to allow/encourage bullet points 'get it off your chest comments', for our amusement and your stress relief, rather like Friday Jokes, rather than an endless tirade on the same subject. However, I'm sure there will be international comparisons to each others woes, as, in good old Monty Python style. No-one wants to be outdone, but the subtle differences will make them individual.

Danny42C
7th Feb 2018, 15:41
RAT5 (#1),

"Meldrew Moments" - great idea, must remember that, would go well with my "Senior Moments" (which are becoming more frequent of late !) Yes, let's form a Pet Hates Club in Jet Blast.

Allan Lupton
7th Feb 2018, 15:42
UK television seems to work on the assumption that everyone wants endless games and so-called sport to the extent that BBC2, which used to be a bit more highbrow than BBC1, drops everything when there's an interminable darts/snooker/tennis/olympics happening.
I understand I'm unusual in having no interest in the majority of these things but even motor sport, where I used to be interested, is so poorly covered that I fall asleep easily. e.g. Grand Prix races are around 2 hours, but even "highlights" programmes are preceded by hours of presenters interviewing each other and when the race happens the commentary only tells us what we can see for ourselves. TV coverage of Rallying seems to have become a series of Special Stage crashes and consequent interviews with the affected drivers.

NutLoose
7th Feb 2018, 15:44
F1.... I like to watch qualifying and the race..... when Sky took it on I could, but now the damned box records practice 1, 2, and 3, none of which I could give a fart in hell about... When Sky took it on they also had two programmes, one with the pre race sh*te listening to a bunch of "experts" extolling the virtues of Lewis Hamiltons latest tattoo, to the make up of a tyres compound.. and then one of the race.
Sadly that soon changed to a single programme that means I now have to prerecord it and jump to about 45 mins then fast fwd to the start..

We had the annoying presenter that legged it into obscurity at BT followed by Brundle as the main commentator where comments were brief, accurate and embelished the race experience finally allowing one to enjoy the racing...BLISS!.. sadly that ended and we now have another blithering idiot that loves the sound of his own voice.

treadigraph
7th Feb 2018, 15:45
Squealy shouty kids in pubs! Why do they all have to shout at one another when they are within touching distance?

Thomas coupling
7th Feb 2018, 15:49
Grumpy moments (Reasons to be cheerful, part1):
When counter staff hand your notes receipt and coins back in one chunk and you only have one hand to receive it - grrrrrrr.

When people knowingly speak quietly on their fone in the Quiet Coach on Virgin trains - grrrrr.

When telephone sales reps ask if you're having a nice day? *uck OFF!

Ahh, I feel better now....thank you.

G-CPTN
7th Feb 2018, 15:52
Squealy shouty kids in pubs! Why do they all have to shout at one another when they are within touching distance?

Blame parents . . .

Thomas coupling
7th Feb 2018, 15:56
Touching is not de rigeur, I'm afraid, any longer....those were the days eh?

treadigraph
7th Feb 2018, 15:58
My friend Denise always slaps me on the bum when she sees me in the pub: "Oi, inappropriate sexual assault!" sez I, "more please!"

treadigraph
7th Feb 2018, 16:01
Blame parents . . .

I mean the ones who are allegedly adult enough to be drinking unsupervised! :p

RAT 5
7th Feb 2018, 16:20
Kids cycling down the street, squeezed between parked cars and whizzing traffic, as nature meanders by unique in every second and they are head down texting, with a fag grasped between lips. Agh, and agh again. The young do not deserve their youth.

funfly
7th Feb 2018, 16:42
Danny42, are you really 96?

Snyggapa
7th Feb 2018, 16:52
Nature programs that show you the world in 5 second micro-bursts. Watch any of the recent (last few years) programmes, even the ones narrated by David Attenborough, and watch that the shot changes every 5 seconds like clockwork.

A jaguar quietly stalking his prey 3 4 5
flip to side angle 3 4 5
flip to top view 2 3 4 5
flip back to original view 2 3 4 5

TV for the attention deficient

Ancient Observer
7th Feb 2018, 16:58
Grumpy thought.
As one well eddicated in Marx, Engels, Prudhon, Milliband et al, I HATE all the Trots and Pinkoes that run the BBC.

NutLoose
7th Feb 2018, 17:00
Danny42, are you really 96?

For your answer to the question about this fine old Gentleman, I suggest you spend a few really interesting hours reading this.

https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/329990-gaining-r-f-pilots-brevet-ww-ii.html

NutLoose
7th Feb 2018, 17:02
Nature programs that show you the world in 5 second micro-bursts. Watch any of the recent (last few years) programmes, even the ones narrated by David Attenborough, and watch that the shot changes every 5 seconds like clockwork.

A jaguar quietly stalking his prey 3 4 5
flip to side angle 3 4 5
flip to top view 2 3 4 5
flip back to original view 2 3 4 5

TV for the attention deficient

Dammit, I will sit there counting now.... I never noticed all the Danish porn stars used to wear neck scarves until somone mentioned it in the RAF, and then when ever I was... ahem... told about a film I used to ask, was she wearing a scarf?

KelvinD
7th Feb 2018, 17:10
Squealy shouty kids in pubs! Why do they all have to shout at one another when they are within touching distance?
Or to rephrase that: Why do kids have to be in pubs?
Uplinker: I hope you were not to blame for the pair of travesties that bloody ref inflicted upon my lot at that match! There we go! I have just realised my latest Victor Meldrew moment!

Allan Lupton
7th Feb 2018, 17:18
Squealy shouty kids in pubs! Why do they all have to shout at one another when they are within touching distance?
No idea why, but it'll be the same reason that they shout into their mobile phones and shout at each other as they walk down the street together.

ShyTorque
7th Feb 2018, 18:04
Rush hour drivers who, when turning right, can't be bothered to sidle up neatly alongside the centre of the road and unecessarily fail to leave room on their left for following traffic to pass them. Instead these morons pull across the entire carriageway at 45 degrees to wait for a gap in oncoming traffic, causing an obstruction and making everyone behind them wait, too.

Flypro
7th Feb 2018, 18:33
What is making me increasingly grumpy is the amount of mood music (intrusive noise more like) behind almost everything on TV these days from wildlife progs to quiz shows - and don't get me started on the thunderous racket reverberating around very cinema!!

BehindBlueEyes
7th Feb 2018, 18:37
People who keep checking their bags in the overhead lockers during a flight. For gods sake, no one has got off during the flight with your valuables!

On the subject of flying; when they board the aircraft by row number, the oiks that haven’t been called and insist on hanging around blocking the check in clerk scanning the boarding cards.

Then there’s the family, with the rowdy kids, and the large carry on luggage that you spot when you arrive at the airport and think, I hope they’re not on my flight, but they ALWAYS are. And bizarrely, they’re the ones that don’t hear (or check) when the flight is boarding so we all sit and wait for them. And when they get on, they’re all smiley and think it’s a real hoot that they’re last on, and finally, as they walk past, their oversized rucksack (filled with tins cans I think) hits you on the side of the head. And their offspring always have those revolting pink trail behind plastic suitcase things that the adults never have the gumption to pick up so they can board quicker.

There, said it.

Thomas coupling
7th Feb 2018, 19:03
The poor content quality of nearly all the broadsheet newspapers.
The articles and columns probably represent/reflect british society today.
In that case - what a dumbed down dreary limited society we have become.

The sad recognition that supposedly, one of the most advanced nations on the planet earth, has voted in a leader who signifies everything that is wrong with power and influence.
350 million 'advanced' individuals chose a short list of two completely disfunctional, detached, unrepresentative, reprobates - speaks volumes about the way western society is leading.

The massive hard over that we are currently experiencing between the battle of the sexes.

Generation Snowflake..................... :ugh:

rogerg
7th Feb 2018, 19:15
I think things are just OK, not like the previous miserable post. Mind you I am on my first glass of wine. I am sure it will all work out!!.

Uplinker
7th Feb 2018, 19:29
Uplinker: I hope you were not to blame for the pair of travesties that bloody ref inflicted upon my lot at that match! There we go! I have just realised my latest Victor Meldrew moment!

Absolutely not, read it again; I am a broadcast engineer - a techie, (and a pilot) :ok:

Like Allan Lupton, I have no interest in football whatsoever, but even I could tell that the linesman on the nearside touchline was making some bizarre calls.

Pontius Navigator
7th Feb 2018, 19:41
Danny42, are you really 96?

If you wander over to the Military section you will see. Try looking for posts by . . .

LordGrumpy
7th Feb 2018, 19:42
Who likes the laughter track; added to situation comedies?
Go on show yourselves.

Danny42C
7th Feb 2018, 19:46
funfly (#20),

Sadly, all too true ! On "Military Aviation" Forum, "Gaining an RAF Pilot's Brevet in WWII" Thread, my weary tale starts Page 114. Give it a shufti !

Danny.

reynoldsno1
7th Feb 2018, 20:15
J hope everyone realises that grumpy old men were probably grumpy young men.

rans6andrew
7th Feb 2018, 20:48
at the weekend someone in a UK supermarket chain founded in the north, told me that I couldn't have mustard on my all day breakfast because of "allergies!" When I countered with the fact that the same person had just given me their allergies book to look at and mustard was not mentioned it became "er, allergies and health and safety!"

Why is this bullpoop allowed to flourish and why do we tollerate it?

Rans6..........

BehindBlueEyes
7th Feb 2018, 21:04
at the weekend someone in a UK supermarket chain founded in the north, told me that I couldn't have mustard on my all day breakfast because of "allergies!" When I countered with the fact that the same person had just given me their allergies book to look at and mustard was not mentioned it became "er, allergies and health and safety!"

Why is this bullpoop allowed to flourish and why do we tollerate it?

Rans6..........

YES!!!

Similar experience in a cafe in a supermarket at the weekend that rhymes with Mess and Go. My elderly mother in law ordered a chicken pie and mash at the till. She asked if she could have chips instead of mash?
“Computer says no.” Said the youth determined to stick to the algorithm.
MIL accepts the executive decision. I decide to order an all day breakfast.
“Would you like hash browns or chips with that?” He asks.
What? I get a choice? I facetiously suggest I would like mash and MIL can have my chip portion. The panic on his face was impressive - I expected his head to start revolving. Quickly, he got himself together and remembered the script.
“No, that’s not possible. Sorry.”
At least he apologised but I’m still puzzled why side items like veggies are not interchangeable as food like chips are cooked are cooked in bulk anyway and sold as a separate side order off the menu.

SARF
7th Feb 2018, 21:09
Watching falcon heavy and thinking. Well what’s the point of that then. So we can get a few tons of crap to mars in twenty years

India Four Two
7th Feb 2018, 21:36
“Computer says no.”

An earlier version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38maVb_30ng

G-CPTN
7th Feb 2018, 21:41
Just wait until you get charged extra for not having an item of the vegetables on offer.
I don't remember the details, but it was a Little Chef (roadside cafe) and my son decided that he didn't want one of the offered vegetables, but they tried to charge us extra for not supplying it!

ExSp33db1rd
7th Feb 2018, 22:15
.........On the subject of flying;

Those - i.e. 99% of travellers - who stand toes to the baggage belt whilst waiting to see their bag on the belt, thereby ensuring that no one behind can see their bag, and if by chance one gets a glimpse of it, then there is no way to reach it.

I have been known to knock a few over as I lunge forward, grab my bag and then whirl it around sideways to escape. Don't travel with me.

NutLoose
7th Feb 2018, 22:28
All the current bullsh*t about plastic recycling and adopting the Norwegian model for plastic recycling.... While still remembering my youth with paper bags, cardboard boxes, glass refundable milk bottles, lemonade bottles and Grolsh bottles.

The bin tax as it was going to be where we would be charged on weight of crap we didn't want nor need.... Multiple layers of paper and cardboard packaging wrapped around products and thrown away would be better served remaining as a tree in the first place and fines / levies charged against the producer rather than the final user makes more sense, same goes for excess plastic, much better it not converted from oil in the first place than having to struggle to try and recycle it in the latter.

The charges on carrier bags when we still sell plastic bin bags to put our rubbish in!

WingNut60
7th Feb 2018, 22:30
........ who stand toes to the baggage belt whilst waiting to see their bag on the belt, surrounded by a swarm of urchins, way too small to ever be able to manage the bag full of anvils that they're waiting for, but who insist on trying antway while both parents look on admiringly.

WingNut60
7th Feb 2018, 22:50
at the weekend someone in a UK supermarket chain founded in the north, told me that I couldn't have mustard on my all day breakfast because of "allergies!" When I countered with the fact that the same person had just given me their allergies book to look at and mustard was not mentioned it became "er, allergies and health and safety!"

Why is this bullpoop allowed to flourish and why do we tollerate it?

Rans6..........

Supermarket chains who have ceased to sell MSG or products with MSG in them on the same "er, allergies and health and safety!" grounds but which continue to present aisles laden with peanut butter and peanut products in any and every form.

Don't like MSG? Just don't buy the bl...dy stuff.

gemma10
7th Feb 2018, 22:50
Its all absolutely Pointless. For those who watch the programme before the early evening news, hosted by that effervescent knobhead Alistair Armstrong. Watch the programme and count how many times he says "thank you very much indeed". Drives her indoors bonkers and its now got to me . :suspect:

Effluent Man
7th Feb 2018, 23:08
funfly (#20),

Sadly, all too true ! On "Military Aviation" Forum, "Gaining an RAF Pilot's Brevet in WWII" Thread, my weary tale starts Page 114. Give it a shufti !

Danny.

Just started reading your posts. Very informative and entertaining for one interested in history. I will continue reading at a better hour.

skydiver69
7th Feb 2018, 23:23
Drivers who don't feel the need to apply the accelerator when going up hill meaning that they start at 50 or 60 mph but get to the top at 40!

Cunliffe
7th Feb 2018, 23:32
Regulars in a pub who sit on a solid row of barstools and prevent me getting served.

WingNut60
7th Feb 2018, 23:38
Regulars in a pub who sit on a solid row of barstools and prevent me getting served.

Pubs that don't provide a QUICK SERVE lane to get past the embedded pisspots.

cavortingcheetah
7th Feb 2018, 23:44
At the end of a long and arduous day, being cajoled into going to a ballet that I had said, on many occasions before the evening, that I didn't want to see.
Then being condemned, by all the women, as being an old grump after falling asleep.
Quite enough to make one regret ever having given them the vote in the first place!

TWT
7th Feb 2018, 23:45
Inconsiderate people. They pop up everywhere.

goudie
8th Feb 2018, 01:16
I try very hard to be grumpy, I really do but as soon as I see my great granddaughter all grumpiness vanishes, even though she calls me grumps!. I think she means gramps.
Mind you I do consider most motorists pratts... even myself sometimes!

FullOppositeRudder
8th Feb 2018, 02:55
What the heck is with this epidemic of so called "music" being inflicted upon the helpless (me) in every retail establishment I need to visit for the necessities of life. Not only is it in supermarkets but one has to endure it in hardware stores, doctor's waiting rooms, electronic stores - everywhere I go!! It's almost always some infantile female wailing into a microphone about goodness only knows what. Totally out of phase with my own musical tastes of course, but then again there is a time and place for everything including silence; I certainly don't need a Mozart piano concerto thrust upon me when I am trying to find the right kind of glue out of the hundred or so on offer for a particular job either! Silence is golden in such stressful moments. Hell, I've even had such crap played soothingly (?!) a few times in the background on descent in a commercial flight, although happily I haven't been aware of it in recent times.

I may have to resort to wearing industrial grade earmuffs everywhere in future. Just my luck then to run down by a damn shopping trolley. :*

Wingswinger
8th Feb 2018, 07:04
Is this the best repository for complaints concerning modern Grammer, speling, punktewashun and langwage abyuse?

Arghhhhhhh!

Over to Weird Al:

KkWyMkWj7Oc

Pontius Navigator
8th Feb 2018, 08:29
Bloody solicitor trying to stop us buying our seller's house. It is costing the seller £350 a week, and saving us a bit, as he keeps fighting off or delays responses to our solicitor's questions.

"She's only a woman, what does she matter?" She's a Rottweiler and talks 19-doz. Now got them to stump up £1,300 in rectifying the deeds when is could have been done a month ago.

jez d
8th Feb 2018, 08:59
John Humphries' interviewing technique

treadigraph
8th Feb 2018, 09:08
Pedestrians looking at mobile devices and not where they are going - to$$ers!

People with wheelie suitcases, particularly those that walk alongside theirs...

pulse1
8th Feb 2018, 09:16
People who park on the wrong side of the road with their headlights on. Had a right ding dong with a neighbour who always leaves his SUV facing the wrong way with headlights on while he goes to open his garage doors before backing in.

This is on a dark country road and he can't even see what the problem is. I would give anyone who does that a life ban. They obviously do not have the right sort of brain to share roads with other people.

bizdev
8th Feb 2018, 09:25
Getting stuck behind a car doing 40 on a 60 limit road who then continue at that same speed through a 30 limit town. Ahhhh

bizdev
8th Feb 2018, 09:30
The slow creep of women reporters and commentators on football programs e.g. MOTD and football on Five and the results show. Noooooo this is men playing football - go and comment on women’s football

Saintsman
8th Feb 2018, 09:30
Women.

No need to say any more...

Uplinker
8th Feb 2018, 09:43
Watching falcon heavy and thinking. Well what’s the point of that then. So we can get a few tons of crap to mars in twenty years my bold

How were you watching the footage? I bet there was a communications satellite involved at some point in the chain. How did that satellite get up there into geosynchronous orbit?.......er, oh yes via a rocket!!

Thomas coupling
8th Feb 2018, 09:43
This latest barney about a law suit being brought against a load of supermarkets by feminists AGAIN.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/07/tesco-equal-pay-claim-could-cost-supermarket-up-to-4bn

So the way I see it is the complaint is that women who work the tills or stack shelves or do the admin are on £8/hr but the men in the depots loading and unloading trucks are getting between £9 and £11 per hour. UNFAIR they shout - sue, claim, moan.
They want the former to be paid the same as the latter.

Sorry - have I missed something?

What's this got to do with sexual discrimination?

Don't they have women depot operators or men till operators?

FFS - a gaggle of women on the main news last night screeching about this (including their lawyers) citing it as: Transforming and a major shift in equality (if they win).....

I must have missed something - does anyone know more about this to be able to put me right, or is it April 1st already?

ian16th
8th Feb 2018, 10:01
All the current bullsh*t about plastic recycling and adopting the Norwegian model for plastic recycling.... While still remembering my youth with paper bags, cardboard boxes, glass refundable milk bottles, lemonade bottles and Grolsh bottles.

The bin tax as it was going to be where we would be charged on weight of crap we didn't want nor need.... Multiple layers of paper and cardboard packaging wrapped around products and thrown away would be better served remaining as a tree in the first place and fines / levies charged against the producer rather than the final user makes more sense, same goes for excess plastic, much better it not converted from oil in the first place than having to struggle to try and recycle it in the latter.

The charges on carrier bags when we still sell plastic bin bags to put our rubbish in!


Those of us who can remember during WWII, a tin of sardines was just that.

Today the tin is wrapped in paper/plastic and placed in a cardbord box, and put into a plastic bag at the checkout.

Can anyone else remember the sale of 'mystery tins' during WWII? Where the unlabeled cans had come out of their cardboard boxes. The buyer didn't know if the can contained peas, soup or maybe custard!


People bought them because you knew it was food!

hiflymk3
8th Feb 2018, 10:07
Women.

No need to say any more...

What does your wife/partner/sister/mother think of your opinion?

Hydromet
8th Feb 2018, 10:32
What does your wife/partner/sister/mother think of your opinion?

I suspect mine would be surprised to discover that I have one...not that it would matter.

jindabyne
8th Feb 2018, 11:17
Cunliffe

Regulars in a pub who sit on a solid row of barstools and prevent me getting served.

Guilty as charged! I've paid for that stool many times over for goodness sake! :ok:

Buster11
8th Feb 2018, 12:23
The relationship between most people and button-operated pedestrian crossings. What is going on in their tiny minds? They seem to have two modus operandi (OK, modi…).

1) Walk to the crossing, press the button, then notice there’s no traffic and walk across the road. Some time later the lights change, the beeper sounds and traffic that was nowhere in sight when our hero arrived duly has to stop while nobody crosses the road.

2) Walk to the crossing, press the button and then wait patiently till the beeper sounds and traffic that was nowhere in sight when our hero arrived stops to let him/her cross. This way they not only waste their time but also that of motorists.

A slight variation of (2) is to press the button as the only vehicle in sight approaches the crossing, rather than waiting till it’s gone and then crossing behind it.

Is their prime aim to cross the road safely or just to stop cars? Maybe it’s time for someone to do a “safety” survey and ask people at crossings a few questions about their motives.

Pontius Navigator
8th Feb 2018, 12:32
Buster, or pressing the button then NOT crossing the road?

Pontius Navigator
8th Feb 2018, 12:35
Thomas coupling, I remember a pay equality success many years ago. The tea ladies at Camel Lairds won equal pay with the male riveters on an equal value basis. Yes, riveters, it was long ago.

treadigraph
8th Feb 2018, 12:39
Buster, while cycling up West Wickham High Street several years ago, I had an idiot press the button then immediately step out right in front of me without waiting for the green man or even looking - wiped his nose with my shoulder and won the shouting match about whose fault it was; the beeps started after I stopped and he started shouting. One of the reasons why I bought a GoPro.

Danny42C
8th Feb 2018, 13:39
reynoldsno1 (#36),

All the better for it - for:

"All progress comes from the unreasonable man" (GBS).

Pontius Navigator
8th Feb 2018, 14:08
Reynoldsno1, noo, in the Air Force it comes from training

Danny42C
8th Feb 2018, 14:11
Pontius Navigator (#56),

Amen to that ! I'm in the mirror image of your situation: I have a willing buyer, but her solicitor is spinning out a string of pettifogging questions to stretch out the business (and fatten his fee !)

I DONT BELIEVE IT !

ShyTorque
8th Feb 2018, 14:14
People who park on the wrong side of the road with their headlights on. Had a right ding dong with a neighbour who always leaves his SUV facing the wrong way with headlights on while he goes to open his garage doors before backing in.

This is on a dark country road and he can't even see what the problem is. I would give anyone who does that a life ban. They obviously do not have the right sort of brain to share roads with other people.

It is actually illegal to do that - but try getting the police to do something about it....

I agree, totally inconsiderate, like the morons who park within 10 metres of a road junction, causing an obstruction. We suffer the latter problem at the junction of our narrow side street cul-de-sac, due to a post office on one side of the exit and a property letting office on the other.

Wingswinger
8th Feb 2018, 14:30
The slow creep of women reporters and commentators on football programs e.g. MOTD and football on Five and the results show. Noooooo this is men playing football - go and comment on women’s football

It's in Rugby too. B***** off, girls.

SARF
8th Feb 2018, 14:49
[QUOTE=Uplinker;10045813]my bold

How were you watching the footage? I bet there was a communications satellite involved at some point in the chain. How did that satellite get up there into geosynchronous orbit?.......er, oh yes via a rocket!![/QUOTE.

People that don’t get this thread

SARF
8th Feb 2018, 14:52
Female singers , singing toe tappingly bearable pop songs, then suddenly chucking in a word with a lisp....
pink singing ‘ myheart is bwwaking’

RedhillPhil
8th Feb 2018, 17:53
Minor to some but a proper Meldrow for me.
The disappearance of the sibilant.
"I'm going to to walk down Shmith Shtreet to talk to Mister Shtrong who'sh been acting in a shtrange way to his carsh wheelsh.

Allan Lupton
8th Feb 2018, 18:11
I've not noticed that, RedHillPhil , but I am suitably incandescent about the disappearance of the dental "t" to be replaced - as in wa'er - by the glottal stop (or glo'al stop perhaps).
Otherwise quite well-spoken folk seem to do that.

BehindBlueEyes
8th Feb 2018, 18:37
I've not noticed that, RedHillPhil , but I am suitably incandescent about the disappearance of the dental "t" to be replaced - as in wa'er - by the glottal stop (or glo'al stop perhaps).
Otherwise quite well-spoken folk seem to do that.


AND the pronounciation of the word ‘harass’ It should rhyme with embarrass not har-ass. That stemmed from bloody Frank Spencer, “Ooh Betty, everyone’s trying to har-ass me!” :ugh:

Another pet hate is, controversy. It should be con-trov-ersy NOT contra-versy. :=

Pontius Navigator
8th Feb 2018, 18:57
Pontius Navigator (#56),

Amen to that ! I'm in the mirror image of your situation: I have a willing buyer, but her solicitor is spinning out a string of pettifogging questions to stretch out the business (and fatten his fee !)

I DONT BELIEVE IT !

Fixed fee :)

However when we sold the buying solicitor was a nightmare. Was the garage an extension etc etc. In the end the buyer offered sight unseen. Viewed Monday, exchanged Friday and would have completed! Completed in 4 weeks including Christmas and no survey. Apart from the solicitor, dream buyers.

jindabyne
8th Feb 2018, 19:31
I'm heterosexual, but I don't go on about it. That those of different sexual persuasions choose to broadcast their own so incessantly is not necessary, (ie, it p***es me off).

olympus
8th Feb 2018, 20:00
People who can't make the effort to get the names of TV celebrities (of whom they are complaining) correct - it's ALEXANDER Armstrong and it's John HUMPHRYS.

jindabyne
8th Feb 2018, 20:02
I don't like my daughters telling me to stop being grumpy, when I'm not ---

NutLoose
8th Feb 2018, 20:24
Watchdog and there pursuit of the crooked, but when there motorcyclist is caught as a benefits fraudster... Not a word.

That bald headed guy doing the fake goods programme going on about fake cameras that were simply grey imports.

People who play the race card when the going gets tough.

RAT 5
8th Feb 2018, 21:19
The Pink Pop Gay Parade in every major city. AGH! If there was a Hetro Hedonistic Parade with scantily clad guys & galls they'd all be locked up. Or is that Liverpool & Newcastle on any given weekend whatever the weather?

Ogre
8th Feb 2018, 21:21
People who play the race card when the going gets tough.

People who play the victim card when they're caught doing something/nothing/the wrong thing. :ugh:

Private jet
8th Feb 2018, 21:35
People who play the victim card when they're caught doing something/nothing/the wrong thing. :ugh:

In psychology it's labelled passive aggressiveness. The cancer of modern society. It started with the "wide-boy/wheeler dealer" types in the 80's and has grown like a tumour ever since.

Slow Biker
8th Feb 2018, 21:53
Laura Kuenssberg.

Smeagol
8th Feb 2018, 22:31
"Getting stuck behind a car doing 40 on a 60 limit road who then continue at that same speed through a 30 limit town. Ahhhh"

Normal driving technique in Norfolk.:ugh::ugh:

FullOppositeRudder
8th Feb 2018, 22:59
Media peoples who pronounce kilometre as killommuttar. The get centimetre and millimetre right. No-one talks about killoggrems of anything! Ignorant or lazy? Both perhaps? Who would know?

And don't get me started about the American spelling of metre as 'meter'. A meter is the thing for measuring electronic stuff on my work bench. A metre is the correct spelling for the unit of measure. (Even as I type all of this I can see the problem - damn spelling checker. They are taking over - resistance is futile - we are all doomed!) :* I need to go an lie down for a while .....

ExSp33db1rd
8th Feb 2018, 22:59
NZ Police have just shown a patrol car decorated with the colours of the rainbow, and multi coloured flashing lights instead of the regular blue and red, for our "Gay Pride Parade" nonsense starting this weekend.

World's Gone Mad.

WingNut60
8th Feb 2018, 23:52
People who can spend 10 minutes staring at an ATM without pressing a key / button.

People who can stand in front of packets of soup (or cans or whatever) in a supermarket, picking them up packet-by-packet before starting over again, completely oblivious to the eight people standing next to and behind them waiting to pick up their already chosen packet.

Tankertrashnav
9th Feb 2018, 00:33
Eddie Mair on BBC Radio 4 who gets paid a vast amount of money yet cannot pronounce the word pronunciation which he insist on pronouncing as "pronounciation".

I've emailed him about it but he ignores me :*

NutLoose
9th Feb 2018, 01:08
Speal checker porlice and grammar checker police who forget that in the world of the Internet, English is often not everyone's first language.

RAT 5
9th Feb 2018, 03:08
Parking:

I watch it every day outside my house in car-crowded street. Parking space big enough for 2 large estate cars to park. Along comes a muppet in a SMALL car, drives into the space forwards and ends up 2 feet from the curb. They then shuffle back & forth a few times and with great precision park exactly in the middle. Agh.
If challenged they walk away with a shrug of "who cares'.

Equally, women on shopping trip in hubby's estate or SUV. Spots a perfectly adequate space, sets up for reverse entry aided by all the buzzers or camera. Totally the wrong angle and has no chance. Then sets up for forward entry, but has not learnt to drive up on the curb. Shuffle shuffle, and then drives off to find an HGV space. These folks must drive them more than hubby and often do the shopping trip. Who taught these people?

Same with driving into a car-park space, but using 2 of them at a 20 degree angle.

Same with the muppet who parks as above and leaves me 12" to open my driver's door, and the wazzo who's blocked my pax door.
Too many people go through life with self focused blinkers on. Agh!

Mr Oleo Strut
9th Feb 2018, 05:18
Those of us who can remember during WWII, a tin of sardines was just that.

Today the tin is wrapped in paper/plastic and placed in a cardbord box, and put into a plastic bag at the checkout.

Can anyone else remember the sale of 'mystery tins' during WWII? Where the unlabeled cans had come out of their cardboard boxes. The buyer didn't know if the can contained peas, soup or maybe custard!


People bought them because you knew it was food!


My dear old dad used to do competitions and take the labels off tins. He won all sorts of things but we ended up with a shelf full of mystery tins. It drove my mother nuts. Soup and prunes, beans and custard.

DON T
9th Feb 2018, 05:48
Watched BBC Breakfast News two days ago. Fair enough it was the centenary of the suffragette movement but for one hour I did not see a Male on the programme. News, sport, weather, business and all other things presented by females.��

fujii
9th Feb 2018, 06:03
Watchdog and there pursuit of the crooked, but when there motorcyclist is caught as a benefits fraudster... Not a word.

That bald headed guy doing the fake goods programme going on about fake cameras that were simply grey imports.

People who play the race card when the going gets tough.

People who use there instead of their.

gemma10
9th Feb 2018, 07:10
Watched BBC Breakfast News two days ago. Fair enough it was the centenary of the suffragette movement but for one hour I did not see a Male on the programme. News, sport, weather, business and all other things presented by females.��


Now lets go over TUR Carol FUR the weather forecast.

Trossie
9th Feb 2018, 07:21
Laura Kuenssberg. "Snap!!!!"

Trossie
9th Feb 2018, 07:23
... who forget that in the world of the Internet, English is often not everyone's first language.Well it bloody well should be!

andytug
9th Feb 2018, 07:53
In supermarkets, those who leave their trolley at 90° to the aisle behind them whilst deciding which of the 3000 identical tins of beans or whatever to buy.. thus blocking the way for everyone else. Bonus idiot points for getting grumpy when this is pointed out.....

ExSp33db1rd
9th Feb 2018, 07:58
Well it bloody well should be!

Wogs begin at Dover.

NZ TV and steam radio presenters who pronounce the plural of woman as woman. e.g. This product will benefit all woman.

treadigraph
9th Feb 2018, 08:43
People who don't take their bloody rucksacks off on buses, trains, in shops, etc.

Robert Peston.

Grayfly
9th Feb 2018, 09:13
My pet hates and things which hit the grumpy button:

People who try to board a train or tube before other passengers have got off.

Agree, backpacks being worn in tight spaces particularly on transport.

Every other passenger on my flight, especially the ones who were allowed to bring massive suitcases and holdalls on as cabin baggage.

Politicians who excuse everything with the phrase 'the will of the people'.

Politicians generally, all parties and Momentum, which look they could become a new party.

People who wear hoods up on hoodies or balaclavas indoors.

Other drivers on the road.

Other people generally.

jindabyne
9th Feb 2018, 09:29
S - Biker

Laura Kuenssberg

Oh yes - and Jeremy Vine.

Mel Effluent
9th Feb 2018, 09:29
People who drive in fog with their headlights switched off.:ugh:

andytug
9th Feb 2018, 09:32
People who drive in fog with their headlights switched off.:ugh:

Or have fog lights on either end when visibility is half a mile or more...

Wriggly Monkey
9th Feb 2018, 09:52
Women's Hour - every day. Can you imagine the outcry if someone were to suggest "Men's Hour"! A few months ago I an heard an episode (I was in the car, there was nothing else to listen to M'Lud) where they spent 15 minutes banging on about equality and women's rights. The contradiction obviously passed them by.

ShyTorque
9th Feb 2018, 09:52
Speal checker porlice and grammar checker police who forget that in the world of the Internet, English is often not everyone's first language.

Nutty, then why don’t you get some lessons?

ShyTorque
9th Feb 2018, 10:02
Oh yes - and Jeremy Vine.

I thought it was just me....whiney Vine. I can’t bear to listen to him.

Manic Chris Evans, too. I like to listen to music and not him talking his drivel over every song, which he tends to do more and more these days.

57mm
9th Feb 2018, 10:55
All this talk about hard and soft Brexit. I thought it was about toilet paper.

ian16th
9th Feb 2018, 11:19
Music that has no vocal content, being called a 'song'.

NutLoose
9th Feb 2018, 11:27
Watched BBC Breakfast News two days ago. Fair enough it was the centenary of the suffragette movement but for one hour I did not see a Male on the programme. News, sport, weather, business and all other things presented by females.��

I bet that saved them a fortune in wages....... :E

Grayfly
9th Feb 2018, 12:50
To continue:

Stupid people who think being stupid is a badge of honour.

People who can't do simple maths.

People who think positions of employment should be allocated by diversity rather than merit or ability.

treadigraph
9th Feb 2018, 13:01
People who have no spatial or situational awareness; yep, I'm thinking of pesky pedestrians again...

gemma10
9th Feb 2018, 13:08
The list goes on. That damned red dot on BBC1. People know what it does, just stop it.

Wingswinger
9th Feb 2018, 13:26
Watched BBC Breakfast News two days ago. Fair enough it was the centenary of the suffragette movement but for one hour I did not see a Male on the programme. News, sport, weather, business and all other things presented by females.��

By extension there are too many women at the top of politics: Theresa May; Amber Rudd; Nicola Sturgeon; Ruth Davidson; Arlene Foster; Leanne Wood; Caroline Lucas. Why are the last two listened to at all? John Knox's 'monstrous regiment of women' writ large.

Q. What do you get when there are have too many women in positions of political power?

A. Sweden. And we all know what's going on there.

Where are all the great men when you need them?

RAT 5
9th Feb 2018, 15:20
Ringing any customer service of information line, on a premium charge number; spending 2 minutes navigating the menu to be then told "all our agents are busy, your call is important to us and we shall answer it as soon as possible." Watching the shillings be eaten away for nothing, and after 10 mins hanging up in a fury.

I thought MP'S were attacking that stealthy theft some years ago. Obviously unsuccessfully. At least in some EU countries they tell you your spot in the queue so you can decide to hold or not. Burt why so many premium numbers? Agh.

And another thing:
HSBC: Not being able to contact my personal bank branch, but only some sterile anonymous central info line; and before being able to do that having to punch in all my account details to be then told what my balance is, but I don;t want to know that I want to talk to someone with a query!!

HSBC. 'The world's local bank', to quote themselves. But can I transfer, via internet, £'s from UK to an EU £ a/c? NO. It's overseas. I have to phone and instruct and pay a huge charge. Agh!

Britain has never been integrated into European systems. It has always operated as an island outside the family. Insurances don't cross the border; green cards are extra; London wants to be the centre of EU finance yet so much personal financial matters cannot be accessed by ex-pats in EU because they are regulated by FSA and valid only UK. How contradictory is that. UK is isolated & blinkered unless you are a multi-national. The Channel is like the Great Wall.

RedhillPhil
9th Feb 2018, 15:57
"Can I get a Latte"?
No, the person behind the counter gets it, you order it.


"Hello Fred, how are you"?
"I'm good".
You're not being asked if you're well behaved, you're being asked how you are.


"We're now arriving at out final destination. Please take care whilst alighting the train".
There's only one destination. I can't alight a train - but I can alight from a train.


Grrrrrrr!

RAT 5
9th Feb 2018, 17:06
The expression:

....off of.....

....gotten....

....straight away....... as in a straight piece of race track

Continuously rising voice at the and of a sentence, suggesting a question when there isn't one.

And just how did we start a conversation before someone discovered "so"? And how did we describe things before someone discovered "like"?

Cunliffe
9th Feb 2018, 17:10
Supermarkets that delight in telling you how many prices they have reduced but never tell you how many they have increased.

Phone lines that say "we are experiencing an exceptionally large number of calls at the moment" whatever time you call. What they mean is that they are too tight to employ enough staff to man/woman/transgender the phones.

Presenters who say nucular.

Thank goodness for this thread; it's not just me then.

P.S. Anybody know where I can get a hetero pouch and harness?

Pontius Navigator
9th Feb 2018, 17:12
People who can't make the effort to get the names of TV celebrities (of whom they are complaining) correct - it's ALEXANDER Armstrong and it's John HUMPHRYS.people whose's name are known becoming celebrities. If on TV popping up on every channel, that newsreader on antiques and ancestry, the gardener chap on Royal Palaces. Those on paid for holidays such as trains. Names? I try and forget, usually successfully.

Pontius Navigator
9th Feb 2018, 17:16
Rat, I NEVER ring an 0845 number. If I can't find a geographic number i don't call at all.

When I do call geographic they never say wrong number.

Allan Lupton
9th Feb 2018, 17:26
Rat, I NEVER ring an 0845 number. If I can't find a geographic number i don't call at all.

When I do call geographic they never say wrong number.
For those that didn't already know this is where you can find geographic alternatives
https://www.saynoto0870.com/

ShyTorque
9th Feb 2018, 19:06
Phone lines that say "we are experiencing an exceptionally large number of calls at the moment" whatever time you call. What they mean is that they are too tight to employ enough staff to man/woman/transgender the phones.

I've found the way to bypass telephone "queuing" is to select the option for new business, no matter what your actual inquiry is all about...

Pontius Navigator
9th Feb 2018, 19:55
I've found the way to bypass telephone "queuing" is to select the option for new business, no matter what your actual inquiry is all about...and they don't seem to recognise the deceit. Though my electricity supplier said I was 110 in the queue. I went back, selected new business and was on hold for 35 minutes.

RAT 5
9th Feb 2018, 20:45
Women's Hour - every day. Can you imagine the outcry if someone were to suggest "Men's Hour"!

Indeed; If women get a whole hour then men should have 1.15hr. None of this piffle & equality twaddle. That's just to stir up the grumpy old women, and then we can have some equality. Not too much, just a little.

Ogre
9th Feb 2018, 22:04
I must admit that over the last couple of weeks I am becoming well disposed towards Professor Jordan Peterson, who is rapidly taking on the mantle of the grumpy old educated man. On the subject of women in politics he has a wonderful analysis of the Canadian cabinet and how the percentage of women in the cabinet should reflect the percentage of female MPs (25%, not the 50% of women currently in the cabinet).

But if we continue in this vein certain forum members will be around soon to remind us we are all mysogenists....

Thomas coupling
9th Feb 2018, 22:23
People who wear birkhas.
People wh wear hoodies indoor.
People who wear baseball hats indoors.
People who end sentences which aren't questions - in a questioning manner?
People who start sentences with the word: "So....."
People!

hiflymk3
9th Feb 2018, 23:02
People who wear birkhas.
People wh wear hoodies indoor.
People who wear baseball hats indoors.
People who end sentences which aren't questions - in a questioning manner?
People who start sentences with the word: "So....."
People!
Apart from that, what do you think about people?

simmple
9th Feb 2018, 23:03
A few months ago the feminists where whining about the oppression of the burka.
Now it’s grid girls, darts girls, boxing girls, any girl, female, gender binary or whatever pc crap that’s in fashion today. Oh and Laura kusenthing

hiflymk3
9th Feb 2018, 23:27
Grumpy old men.

Why be grumpy? We're still warm and vertical, probably well housed and fed, have dealt with life's setbacks and enjoyed bits on the way. One thing that life has taught me is patience, Not to get worked up about the little things of no matter, or the big things we cannot change. Never to hate, it's poison.

The clock is ticking, enjoy the time you have left.

What really irks me is those people who enter doorways and stop dead to fiddle with their phone or faff about blocking the entrance. :ugh:

WingNut60
9th Feb 2018, 23:52
..............

What really irks me is those people who enter doorways and stop dead to fiddle with their phone or faff about blocking the entrance. :ugh:

Particularly when it's the exit doorway of an aircraft or airbridge. Even more-so if it were on fire.
Thankfully the smokers normally have their (unlit?) cigarettes in their mouths before they get that far.

NutLoose
10th Feb 2018, 00:33
People who use there instead of their.

Damn iPad spellchecker did that, it completes the words and sometimes I miss it.

NutLoose
10th Feb 2018, 00:37
F1 team orders, bare in mind that it is a sport and is gambled on, I cannot see how they can get away with it, if a jockey throws a race at the behest of the owner because the odds are better on his other horse allowing him to increase his winnings for the benefit of his business, he would be lynched, same with other sports.

pppdrive
10th Feb 2018, 01:23
People who ask a question but not the correct question for the answer they want;
Q "Is the London flight on time?" A either "Yes" or "No" What they actually want to know is the time (on time or delayed and by how much).
People who don't provide the service they advertise;
Supermarkets have vans that deliver to your home and these vans have written on the side "Home delivery." I've spoken to many of them on the phone and asked to have a home delivered, they usually just hang up on me.
Removalist, they advertise house removals, but ringing them it becomes apparant they only remove the contents, not the actual house.
I could go on but I'm too grumpy to share my experience of 50 years working with the General 'public.' Why do we not have Corporal public or Private public?

ExSp33db1rd
10th Feb 2018, 01:32
People who wear baseball hats indoors.

especially when worn backwards.

People who wear baseball caps backwards - at any time.

ricardian
10th Feb 2018, 01:45
Eddie Mair on BBC Radio 4 who gets paid a vast amount of money yet cannot pronounce the word pronunciation which he insist on pronouncing as "pronounciation".

I've emailed him about it but he ignores me :*

For ages I thought he was on the "Westminster Air" when he was actually on the "Westminster Hour"

ricardian
10th Feb 2018, 01:52
It's in Rugby too. B***** off, girls.

First female rugby referee (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43008184)

FullOppositeRudder
10th Feb 2018, 01:57
People on the other side of the counter (or telephone) who use "How's yer day been?" as a conversation starter.....

Do they really want to know? Should I really tell them? If so, how much detail? How much time do they have? Where should I start? The obligatory 'first thing' wee and fart ritual? Perhaps skip that and move straight onto breakfast perhaps?

Oh yes, please add to my list this infuriating epidemic of greeting with the absolutely nonsensical statement "Hey!" (Hey what? pray tell)

The apparently standard response seems equally inane: "Hey!" right back at you. What the hell is this all about? Whoever started this should be taken aside and prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

ExSp33db1rd
10th Feb 2018, 02:58
Counter staff who stop serving the queue to answer the telephone. I have been known to reach over and press the stop bar - in the days before mobiles - and say ... the lady in front of me is next, the telephone can go to the back of the queue.

Equally, I congratulate the few who then advise the telephone caller that they are busy, and ask for a call back number, or tell the caller to call back in 10 mins.

treadigraph
10th Feb 2018, 08:36
The appending of "yes?" or "no?" at the end of a statement - if the reader wishes to agree or disagree with what has been written, they will; I find it bloody irritating, yes?

Young people in the UK who call me "dude" or "buddy". I usually have to be very careful not to call them "********" in return.

People who send emails at work that start "Hey!" often followed by "I hope you are well". How about "Hi" and then get on with the message.

"Kind regards". I don't know why I don't like that one but "best regards" is much better.

"Polite Notice". Why not say "please" and "thank you"?

Chuck Glider
10th Feb 2018, 08:47
What really irks me is those people who enter doorways and stop dead to fiddle with their phone or faff about blocking the entrance. :ugh:
And those who step off the top of an escalator and stop to wonder where to go next oblivious to the people being mechanically delivered at their backs.

treadigraph
10th Feb 2018, 08:50
People who come out of doorways without paying any attention to others walking along the pavement. Would you turn on to a main road like that in your car...?

Grayfly
10th Feb 2018, 09:12
Politicians who start the answer of a question with 'the truth is' when we all know it isn't.

People who use the phrase 'personally speaking'. Who else is speaking?

People who use the phrase 'to be honest' which suggests at all other times you're not.

People who hang dog poo in plastic bags on trees and bushes.

Baroness Shami Chakrabarti. How?

Dawn Butler MP. Why?

gemma10
10th Feb 2018, 09:14
Manhole/drain covers. Why do they have to be three inches below road surfaces? Run flat tyre drivers will sympathise. :ugh:

Pontius Navigator
10th Feb 2018, 09:26
Counter staff who stop serving the queue to answer the telephone. I have been known to reach over and press the stop bar - in the days before mobiles - and say ... the lady in front of me is next, the telephone can go to the back of the queue.

Equally, I congratulate the few who then advise the telephone caller that they are busy, and ask for a call back number, or tell the caller to call back in 10 mins.

Or, as the second person in the queue, someone pushes passed with 'just a quick question'

WYFT

treadigraph
10th Feb 2018, 10:36
The entire board of Carillion.

It's been said already but bears repeating: people who use the word "get" instead of "have".

Tashengurt
10th Feb 2018, 10:43
The neighbour who has placed a sign on her side gate reading "Access required at all times. Please do not park here."
Then parks her own car there.
No access issue, just an attempt to save a parking space.

419
10th Feb 2018, 11:16
People in supermarkets who don't know (or don't care) that the checkout positions marked for baskets only are only for people with baskets and not for trolleys.

Secondly, people in supermarkets who make no attempt to start loading their items into bags until everything has been scanned then only then start rummaging through their pockets and handbags trying to find their money or cards.

andytug
10th Feb 2018, 11:28
And those who step off the top of an escalator and stop to wonder where to go next oblivious to the people being mechanically delivered at their backs.

I have a theory that this dates back to when we used to live in caves, you would have been wise to stop and check before leaving the cave entrance that there wasn't a sabre toothed tiger or something waiting outside to eat you. Thus anyone going through a door to outside instinctively stops.

RAT 5
10th Feb 2018, 11:36
.....people in supermarkets.....

who are 5 deep in lines, then another check-out opens and all those at the back of the queues rush as invading hordes to the new till. I once was applauded by impersonating a RSM and instilling order, mainly because I was first and damned if I was going to be trampled into being last: but I did let the little old lady with only 2 tins of cat food to proceed ahead of me. She was my chivalrous ticket and shield and quashed any dissent.

People who stand on moving walkways, chatting, and when you have to ask to pass, complete with wheely, stand one on each side so making the overtake space the smallest possible.

People who stand 2 abreast on escalators, (multi-floor shops) chatting, and when asked to let you pass look at you as if you are an alien; except in London's underground where it would never happen anyway.

People who go to health clubs, ride the escalator up to their fitness level standing still.

Grayfly
10th Feb 2018, 11:52
People apologising on my behalf for historical events. :mad:

Schoolchildren being called students.

The surrender of our traditions and culture to Americanisms such as 'trick or treat', 'high school' 'school prom' etc.

Phone numbers being issued at the end of TV soaps for a helpline if you have been affected by the story line. It's a piece of fiction FFS!!

Hydromet
10th Feb 2018, 12:00
Schoolchildren being called students.

And people who change texts for the sake of political correctness without knowing what they're doing. I once had to review some stats notes where some PC FW had gone through and changed every occurrence of 'Student's T' to 'Learner's T'.

ShyTorque
10th Feb 2018, 12:01
I have a theory that this dates back to when we used to live in caves, you would have been wise to stop and check before leaving the cave entrance that there wasn't a sabre toothed tiger or something waiting outside to eat you. Thus anyone going through a door to outside instinctively stops.

Yes, cavemen often stopped outside to check their mobile phone.... ;)

ShyTorque
10th Feb 2018, 12:02
Schoolchildren being called students.Even more annoying: "shtoodents".

Cunliffe
10th Feb 2018, 12:27
I usually ignore phone calls from international or withheld numbers but I pick up local numbers. Now I find that sales calls from far away are able to represent themselves as local calls; I rate this as deception.

Old Photo.Fanatic
10th Feb 2018, 12:44
After watching an item on TV, when I want to see the credits, mainly the cast etc. the screen is split in half with "what's on next" info.

The main starting credits get squashed , making them unreadable.
When the credits are restored after end of mostly rubbish info. the details I wanted are long gone.

I think this is discourteous to the "cast" who may wish/expect to be acknowledged.

OPF

pr00ne
10th Feb 2018, 13:06
You people are WEIRD...

RAT 5
10th Feb 2018, 14:43
A wonderful nature program, where perhaps the objects of focus are making their natural noises, and a soft narrative explaining what it's all about. So why is there some totally irrelevant musac in the back ground? That just increases 1. the viewer's irritation, 2. the cost of the program due to payable royalties, 3. the time taken to edit the pre-broadcast version.
It reflects negatively on the producer.

TV Sports commentators, who are paid a decent whack, but think they are on radio. They have not read the Richie Benaud TVCTM. Agh.

Pax in the middle of the a/c cabin wanting to 'rush off' and squirm their way forward blocking me accessing the bins to get my luggage, when the aisle is full and the door is not yet even open. My elbows get very active.

Cunliffe
10th Feb 2018, 14:57
Airport terminals - such a stressful experience.

Films with poor sound where you keep missing bits of dialogue.

Films which are all stupid action instead of a proper story.

MadsDad
10th Feb 2018, 15:35
The people who insist on using full-beam headlights in heavy (or medium, or even light) traffic on main roads.

Highway1
10th Feb 2018, 15:38
The HSBC call center in india....................................................... ....................

Bergerie1
10th Feb 2018, 15:46
RAT 5,

YES - and all the loud music in TV documentaries, serious programmes and films which drown out what is being said. Why can't we be allowed to just listen to a clearly annunciated commentary instead.

AND - when you have adjusted the volume so that you can hear the words, on come the adverts almost twice as loud as the programme.

Tashengurt
10th Feb 2018, 15:49
Discovery channel shows with manufactured jeopardy or everyone constantly falling out and screaming at each other.

Tone
10th Feb 2018, 16:02
The so-called BBC has now started adding their stupid helicopter sound effect to shots apparently taken from a drone.

RedhillPhil
10th Feb 2018, 17:38
The HSBC call center in india....................................................... ....................



You need HSBC subsidiary First Direct. Call centres in Leeds and Glasgow.

simmple
10th Feb 2018, 17:57
The latest horse sh*t replacing kind regards “have a productive day”
Where the ***k has that one come from?

Rear fog lights on in slight mist

Everything being blamed on brexit

Highway1
10th Feb 2018, 18:29
You need HSBC subsidiary First Direct. Call centres in Leeds and Glasgow.

Yeah, I have got them as well and they are great. It amazes me how two parts of the same company can have such widely differing customer service standards - especially when one insists you keep a minimum £60k in the account.

DON T
10th Feb 2018, 20:07
Mate of mine calmly standing in the queue for the only checkout when they open another one and bloke jumps queue. Mate Stu says hey and gives the bloke a gentle nudge. Bloke trips and falls onto conveyor belt and sets off towards the till. Till keeps saying unidentified object in bagging area. Customers are in uproar with laughter but Stu is escorted out by security guard. Not good Iceland.

ZOOKER
10th Feb 2018, 20:34
Female Radio 2 Presenters, especially Sara Cox, Zoe Ball and Jo Willy......Not to mention Tarbuck's daughter, who's Saturday evening show is a total waste of MegaHertz.

larssnowpharter
10th Feb 2018, 20:52
I must be a great deal more mellow than you guys. I just find life too short to get het up and bothered by some of the things you mention.

katya2607
10th Feb 2018, 21:28
In a past life when the pax leapt out of their seats to retrieve their bags during taxi to the gate, would ask the flight crew to stamp on the brakes. It always worked a treat. Snigger snigger. Pax had been advised to remain seated, therefore if they decided to do otherwise, let them do it on their insurance. Tel Aviv flights were a nightmare.

Don't even get me started on self service checkouts. Left right, right left. Better off on a parade ground!

As for spam calls. had loads when with Tiscali/Talk Talk. Changed many years ago to Sky and only get the odd one of which, when I have either the time or inclination can have much fun. Indian call centre good evening when it's afternoon here on the UK; me "has the Emperor mango season been good this year?" him, yes! Durgh!

As for the Microsoft there is an issue with my computer nonsense. No, I don't have a computer, tablet? Yes I've taken them recently....windows? yes they need cleaning and a smartphone, sadly for you I'm smarter than my 'phone.

Why do we need a 2 hour check in for a domestic flight that is less than 2 hours from a provincial airport when you've checked in online with no baggage (Anfield match on Boxing Day for the boys) grrrr!

No doubt in time I'll be able to think of more!

hiflymk3
10th Feb 2018, 21:50
I must be a great deal more mellow than you guys. I just find life too short to get het up and bothered by some of the things you mention.

Same here, why raise your blood pressure over nothings, it could shorten your life. :eek:

But JB is a place to let off steam and reduce the pressure.

WingNut60
10th Feb 2018, 22:50
I must be a great deal more mellow than you guys. I just find life too short to get het up and bothered by some of the things you mention.

Who's getting het up and bothered; sharing your pet hates can be cathartic, such as ....

People who think that a check-in (or check-out) counter presents an opportunity to discuss the merits and features of their holiday package.

People who go through life smiling, while suffering fools gladly.

ShyTorque
10th Feb 2018, 23:24
My wife says I never suffered fools gladly. Now I don't suffer them at all.....

ExSp33db1rd
11th Feb 2018, 00:21
Secondly, people in supermarkets who make no attempt to start loading their items into bags until everything has been scanned then only then start rummaging through their pockets and handbags trying to find their money or cards.

Once got that broadcast on a local Talkback radio show, claiming that it was woman who were the culprits here, scrabbling around in the bottom of some volumnous bag, muttering things like " I know I brought it" whereas men just reach into their trouser pocket to produce the necessary wallet with no delay. Only to be reviled by a Monstrous Regiment of Women in reply, justifying their action in this respect. Unreasonable explanations like - they had to keep an eye on their children, didn't I realise that they were carrying various combinations of purses and bags ? etc. None justifiable, in my opinion.

People who come out of doorways without paying any attention to others walking along the pavement.

Once saw a woman do just that, eyes down on her phone, and barge into a man quietly minding his own business, but riding a mobility scooter. She then berated him for not watching where he was riding. I went to his support, and told her to ..... ( fill in your own blank)

ShyTorque
11th Feb 2018, 00:38
Not only dilatory women at supermarket checkouts who seem to be totally surprised that they have to pay and never thought to get their purse out in advance but even worse.... the ones who then produce a whole bundle of money off coupons, which need a quarter of an hour to go through. Many of which aren't even for the goods they've bought, or even stocked in the shop.

ExSp33db1rd
11th Feb 2018, 02:08
the ones who then produce a whole bundle of money off coupons,

Regret ... Mrs. ExS is guilty of that, to my eternal chagrin when accompanying her - to be the packhorse carrying all the stuff home when we don't use the car.

Barksdale Boy
11th Feb 2018, 05:46
It's a long while ago now, but people who came out of difficult, at least for me, exams, saying "I thought it was an interesting paper".

ShyTorque
11th Feb 2018, 06:40
Regret ... Mrs. ExS is guilty of that, to my eternal chagrin when accompanying her - to be the packhorse carrying all the stuff home when we don't use the car.

My wife has learned never to try it when I'm with her......she knows I'll walk off and claim I don't even know her.

Pontius Navigator
11th Feb 2018, 08:58
Who's getting het up and bothered; sharing your pet hates can be cathartic, such as ....

People who think that a check-in (or check-out) counter presents an opportunity to discuss the merits and features of their holiday package.

People who go through life smiling, while suffering fools gladly.

Absolutely.

Woman at post office, posts parcels, buys stamps, returns purse to hand bag, zips bag, steps back AND THEN REMEMBERS SOMETHING. Never went to post office on a Monday morning. Mind you, probably why the b*****s behind the counter were miserable b*****s with all the village crap dumped on them every day.

Pontius Navigator
11th Feb 2018, 09:02
Ah ST, I remember that ASDA Charlie Uniform in 1995 when they said they would honour any voucher from any store for any thing. Tescos handed out vouchers like smarties and people bought things like TVs, I bought ££ of best fillet steak.

Krystal n chips
11th Feb 2018, 09:15
In my less than humble opinion ( one has never been known to have such a trait ) I think the OP should be given a special JB award for starting a thread which has escalated into the spiritual home for so many on here.

Possibly the finest concentration of MOG's and BOFSAT's ever recorded on line, and it's notable that ladies get more than a passing mention of course, so it does make you wonder how they cope with the 21st century really.

To save the combined erudition pondering.....

MOG's.....Miserable Old Gits

BOFSAT's....Boring Old Farts Self Aggrandising Tossers.

ShyTorque
11th Feb 2018, 09:23
K&C,

Well done for finally stepping up to the plate.

andytug
11th Feb 2018, 09:25
That's tangentially reminded me of one of my pet hates - people who get offended on behalf of other people or groups who aren't even bothered by the original "offence".
It's great when you see it on TV and they go all "this is offensive to (whoever)", then they actually go ask a member of (whoever) and they just shrug and go "so what?".
Being offended on someone else's behalf who couldn't care less should be fineable.

Grayfly
11th Feb 2018, 10:37
Being offended on someone else's behalf who couldn't care less should be fineable.

There's a few on here who could be fined. :)

ZFT
11th Feb 2018, 10:43
Female Radio 2 Presenters, especially Sara Cox, Zoe Ball and Jo Willy......Not to mention Tarbuck's daughter, who's Saturday evening show is a total waste of MegaHertz.

So why tune in?

WingNut60
11th Feb 2018, 10:50
Dating Naked / Naked Attraction.
I'm a long way from being a prude but I just can't see any redeeming features about these WTF programs.

Haraka
11th Feb 2018, 11:33
Buying a round of drinks in a pub.
Ladies : "Umm, Umm, Err, I'm thinking.......? "
Guys : "Yes,Yes,Yes O.K. !"
Guys, generally,have worked out what they want BEFORE arriving at the bar. Ladies ,in many cases arrive at the bar ,then start considering.
My dear old father used to narrow down their dilemma a bit in days gone by :
"So O.K. , what are you Ladies each having a half of ?"
Then came "Babycham". ......:(

ZOOKER
11th Feb 2018, 11:53
ZFT,

Usually for the traffic bulletins, which are good. I also want to hear new music, but it now occupies little of the show's duration.

Wright and Mayo were excellent DJs when they first started.

pr00ne
11th Feb 2018, 12:11
andytug,

You do realise the supreme irony of your post don’t you?

Danny42C
11th Feb 2018, 12:18
Current "Grumps" include:

Classic FM thinking it is BBC Radio 3, and giving us all the highbrow stuff nobody listens to.

"Incredible" and "Incredibly" used as all-purpose superlatives (invites the retort "you mean, you don't believe it either?")

G-CPTN
11th Feb 2018, 12:22
"So O.K. , what are you Ladies each having a half of ?"
Then came "Babycham". ......:(

Babycham was originally created as pear cider to be supplied in large bottles like any cider, but it failed to take off.

Despondent marketing men hit upon packaging it in tiny bottles dressed up to look 'special' and aimed at women - and chazam! - it became a hit!

ian16th
11th Feb 2018, 12:51
Babycham was originally created as pear cider to be supplied in large bottles like any cider, but it failed to take off.

Despondent marketing men hit upon packaging it in tiny bottles dressed up to look 'special' and aimed at women - and chazam! - it became a hit!
True and when I lived in Hereford pear cider was called simply 'Perry' by Bulmers, and sold in pint bottles.

Fly-by-Wife
11th Feb 2018, 14:52
I particularly despise (among many others):

Those leaders in the race to the intellectual bottom using "of" instead of "have". :yuk:

Motorway middle lane hogs. Of course we all know that Mercs & BMWs will break an axle if they ever have to use the left-hand lane, so allowances must be made, I suppose.

People who don't dip their headlights - this seems to be becoming more prevalent, even in suburban areas.

Y'all have a nice day now! ;) :p

FBW

treadigraph
11th Feb 2018, 15:17
People who assume grief for disasters that are nothing to do with them and become tragedy tourists - I find it somewhat macabre.

OyYou
11th Feb 2018, 15:31
“The HSBC call center in india..”

I dream of a call centre in India. Ours is in Liverpool.
Regards

Danny42C
11th Feb 2018, 15:41
Brandy and Babycham goes down well, I (used to) find: it dispelled inhibitions while still tasting innocuous.

Memories, memories !

WilliumMate
11th Feb 2018, 16:19
Pretentious real ale t***s that monopolise the poor bloody barmaid for fifteen minutes with small sample glasses before deciding on a half of Old Farter, then hogging the bar writing up tasting notes. Believe me, the beer is good, that's why I'm here and not at the shiny lager palace up the road.

:ugh:

RAT 5
11th Feb 2018, 17:16
Drivers, at night especially, who stop at red traffic lights, in the left/right turn only lane with indicator flashing directly in my eyes for a couple of minutes. Once they've stopped they can warn following drivers that they are going to turn......, but once I pull up behind them I know that and they can turn it off. Curtesy. That missing ingredient in life.

And another thing: they enhance the irritation by keeping their foot of the brake so that the high-level brake lights, plus the flashers destroy my night vision.

And another thing:
Drivers at petrol stations who can't be arsed to go to the parking places but block the air pump spot: or leave their car at the pump to go to the payment/cafe/toilet/magazine room etc and block the pump for minutes on end when there is an empty parking spot just in front of the shop, and others are queuing for a pump.

AGH! AGH! AGH!

Pontius Navigator
11th Feb 2018, 17:24
RAT, just because they don't genuflect.

Re signalling, I tend not to signal until I am preparing to turn. Why signal if u ain't about to move? Mrs PN nags me.

On brakes, a problem with automatics, guilty.

Pump blocking, 15 pump slots, one slot outside shop.

Haraka
11th Feb 2018, 17:47
The use of the accolade "Hero" by the dismally shallow mindset of those that have never had to actually contemplate doing anything requiring a spine whatsoever, being submerged in a foppish Nanny State all of their lives.

It totally demeans the term.

Krystal n chips
11th Feb 2018, 17:59
RAT, just because they don't genuflect.

Re signalling, I tend not to signal until I am preparing to turn. Why signal if u ain't about to move? Mrs PN nags me.

On brakes, a problem with automatics, guilty.

.

Ah, the complex ergonomics of signalling...

2. Signals (103 to 106) - The Highway Code (http://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/signals.html)

Automatics.....there is something called a handbrake. Works quite well when stationary at, say, traffic lights for example, as all you have to do is select "P" or " N" until the lights change and then "D".

Last time I drove one ( yesterday ) and will do again ( tomorrow ) this operation has no discernible effect on the time taken to travel from Stafford to Walsall via the scenic route.

bizdev
11th Feb 2018, 18:47
TV shows with “Canned” laughter - if you need to tell me when to laugh then it probably ain’t funny

bizdev
11th Feb 2018, 18:52
TV competitions such as X-factor which has incessant screaming from the audience. I only watch strictly come dancing but the screaming is now creeping into this show and is extremely irritating - especially when a great squeal goes out for something innocuous, leaving me reaching for the rewind button thinking I’ve missed something!

ShyTorque
11th Feb 2018, 20:04
Drivers at petrol stations who can't be arsed to go to the parking places but block the air pump spot: or leave their car at the pump to go to the payment/cafe/toilet/magazine room etc and block the pump for minutes on end when there is an empty parking spot just in front of the shop, and others are queuing for a pump.

AGH! AGH! AGH!

I was once accused of trying to leave without paying after I moved forwards to let the next driver use the pump I was on. So now my car stays put until I've paid.

My automatic has to have the footbrake on to open the interlock on the gearbox, when moving from N to D or R. So although I do use the handbrake if there's a driver behind me at the lights, to avoid dazzle and annoyance, my brake lights will still have to come on before I move off. The parking brake, although it meets the legal requirement, isn't reliably powerful enough to hold the car if it's left in D.

Smeagol
11th Feb 2018, 23:49
I have never found the brake lights on cars in front whilst stationary at junctions/traffic lights/other congestion to be troublesome. Cannot really see how they could make too much difference to one's night vision unless one has a habit of driving without any lights. The big bright swathe of light in front of the car whilst on the move will not be conducive to brilliant night vision.

As for using the parking brake, as others have stated it is a tad more cumbersome in automatic vehicles and doubly so if the parking brake is foot operated as in Mercedes, so sorry if you are behind me at night at traffic lights I WILL have my foot on the brake (or even use the 'hold' facility which has the same effect without my needing to keep my foot on the pedal).

WingNut60
12th Feb 2018, 00:10
People under the age of 99 who watch X-Factor or Come Dancing.

Anyone who thinks that there is any dance move that is so exciting that it's worth rewinding to watch.

(Sorry BizDev, I couldn't let the opportunity slip by.)

ExSp33db1rd
12th Feb 2018, 04:38
Automatics.....there is something called a handbrake. Works quite well when stationary at, say, traffic lights for example, as all you have to do is select "P" or " N" until the lights change and then "D".

Egg sakerly.

WingNut60
12th Feb 2018, 04:44
ALDI check-out counters; the system, the ergonomics, the philosophy ... the entire process.

Hydromet
12th Feb 2018, 06:31
ALDI. Just ALDI.

sitigeltfel
12th Feb 2018, 07:01
I don't shop at Aldi but I hear they have been voted top supermarket in the UK. Super-U have a monopoly in our local area but Aldi are building a store a few hundred metres from my usual shopping haunt and out of curiosity I will have a look when it opens.

treadigraph
12th Feb 2018, 08:47
ALDI. Just ALDI.

Primark. It's so... so ESSEX... :}

gemma10
12th Feb 2018, 09:16
The problem with Aldi is they only open a till when the queue on other tills is so long that customers can`t move.

Pontius Navigator
12th Feb 2018, 09:16
Had to use the other L*** busy, one checkout. Aldi is better.

Aldi clientele vary. Winchester, next to Waitrose. Shop there with Waitrose bags.

Louth, don't touch anything unwrapped. Wash your hands when leaving.

G-CPTN
12th Feb 2018, 09:27
The problem with Aldi is they only open a till when the queue on other tills is so long that customers can`t move.

My local ALDI is quick to open extra checkouts as soon as a queue forms, pulling staff from shelf stacking or warehouse.

No complaint here.

RAT 5
12th Feb 2018, 09:28
The use of the accolade "Hero" by the dismally shallow mindset of those that have never had to actually contemplate doing anything requiring a spine whatsoever, being submerged in a foppish Nanny State all of their lives.
It totally demeans the term.

As does the incredibly common over-use of the description or accolade of 'great' to someone who has been doing it for only a couple of years.
And the incredibly irritating over-use of 'incredibly' as in "it was incredibly difficult, but we came through."

Regarding the brake lights up your nose at traffic lights; OK I can live with those, but the unnecessary Chinese water torture of flashers??? TV announcers alert viewers that "the following contains flash photography" to avoid possible negative reactions. As the gentleman from the emerald isle said when asked to check if the indicator lights were working; "yes it is, no it's not, yes it is no it's........etc"

gemma10
12th Feb 2018, 12:26
My beemer does three flashes when the stalk is pressed half way. If the other car hasn`t got the message from that then tough.

ian16th
12th Feb 2018, 12:41
My beemer does three flashes when the stalk is pressed half way. If the other car hasn`t got the message from that then tough.
Makes me wonder how BMW drivers got their reputation.

gemma10
12th Feb 2018, 12:50
Its got nothing to do with BMW or their drivers, or any other modern vehicle for that matter that incorporates this system. Nothing worse than sitting in a queue of traffic at lights with the car in front telling you he/she is turning left/right for five or more full minutes.

NutLoose
12th Feb 2018, 13:17
People who don't dip their headlights - this seems to be becoming more prevalent, even in suburban areas.

Audi's latest ones you do not need to they are LED and sense vehicles approaching and turn off sections as the vehicle comes through the light spread.

See Matrix lights


https://www.audi-mediacenter.com/en/technology-lexicon-7180/lighting-7187

kkbuk
12th Feb 2018, 15:50
I too am enraged by this, as I am by 'doubled down' 'going forward' and all other pointless Americanisms creeping into the English language. (in reply to RedhillPhil's post about the replacement of the sibilant by 'sh'.

SARF
12th Feb 2018, 17:48
Members of public who were so emotionally affected by Diana’s untimely death , that they had to travel to London to sign a book that is now probably in landfill ..
Thank god Facebook wasn’t around then

kkbuk
12th Feb 2018, 19:38
My beemer does three flashes when the stalk is pressed half way. If the other car hasn`t got the message from that then tough.
You think that three flashes of your indicator lights is enough on a motorway? If so you are an irresponsible and selfish fool.

Pontius Navigator
12th Feb 2018, 20:06
Kkbuk, suggest you tell whichever EU dieity decided that a 3-flash flick was a good idea.

Local Variation
12th Feb 2018, 20:16
Another vote for people who park at the pump, buy no fuel and wander round the shop whilst we all wait and wonder.

But my current vote goes to the 'Tour de Saddington' along the quiet Leicestershire countryside lanes. Every Sunday out they come, lycra clad in all the gear. Cycling in large groups spread right across the narrow lanes, upto 5 abreast. Do they move, nah course they don't. Safety in numbers and plenty of hand gestures to anyone wanting to get past. Many drivers of the passive variety don't even try to pass and sit there following them like a race support vehicle.

Driving straight at them seems to work quite well.

They get out the way then and their £3000 bicycles don't seem to pedal very well in the ditch. Maybe the snazzy sunglasses make it difficult to see traffic.

But of course, being a BMW 5 series driver, I am a complete and utter w......

Tone
12th Feb 2018, 20:31
When queuing at a T junction with clearly defined left and right turning lanes why does one need winkicators at all? Is there perhaps some other option I'm not aware of?

Exrigger
12th Feb 2018, 20:48
When queuing at a T junction with clearly defined left and right turning lanes why does one need winkicators at all? Is there perhaps some other option I'm not aware of?

In Lincoln there is occasionally, and that is to turn in the other direction to the lane you are in and what you are indicating for, makes for interesting times once in a while. ;)

axefurabz
12th Feb 2018, 22:34
Current "Grumps" include:

Classic FM thinking it is BBC Radio 3, and giving us all the highbrow stuff nobody listens to.

Au contraire; the problem is Radio 3 aping Classic FM.

WingNut60
12th Feb 2018, 22:45
Kkbuk, suggest you tell whichever EU dieity decided that a 3-flash flick was a good idea.

People who drive from Perth to York (applicable to UK or Western Australia) with the LH indicator flashing all of the way.

In most, if not all, states of Australia, once you have entered a dedicated turning lane, use of indicators is no longer required. You have no option but to turn.

WingNut60
12th Feb 2018, 22:49
......... Every Sunday out they come, lycra clad in all the gear. ......

Anyone other than a professional bike rider who wears Lycra riding shorts.

Anyone over 70kg who even thinks about wearing Lycra riding shorts (45kg if other than male).

RedhillPhil
12th Feb 2018, 23:23
And another thing................
when did temporary things become "pop-up"?

gemma10
12th Feb 2018, 23:28
You think that three flashes of your indicator lights is enough on a motorway? If so you are an irresponsible and selfish fool.

I thought we were discussing being stuck at traffic lights. :}

WingNut60
13th Feb 2018, 04:21
In Indonesia, with three lanes at lights (left turn, straight ahead or right turn / straight ahead) use of any indicator, or non-use of any indicator means that you may (or may not) turn in either direction at your discretion, regardless of the indicator used and also regardless of which lane you are in.

The above rules are strictly enforced and failing to follow them may even attract the attention of one of the phalanx of police sleeping in the traffic control box off to the side of the intersection.

KelvinD
13th Feb 2018, 07:20
When queuing at a T junction with clearly defined left and right turning lanes why does one need winkicators at all? Is there perhaps some other option I'm not aware of?
How about this for a "theory"?
The left/right turn lanes are clearly defined to traffic in the vertical stem of the "T". But what about those approaching the junction along the horizontal bar of the "T"? From a distance, they may have a view of cars waiting at the junction but it may not be obvious which lanes the joining traffic is in.

sitigeltfel
13th Feb 2018, 08:54
French drivers, especially HGVs, will indicate left when approaching a four exit roundabout, then half way across indicate right and take the straight ahead exit. You learn to be wary of this manoeuvre.

I'm not sure if they teach this at driving schools?

Pontius Navigator
13th Feb 2018, 09:14
French drivers, especially HGVs, will indicate left when approaching a four exit roundabout, then half way across indicate right and take the straight ahead exit. You learn to be wary of this manoeuvre.

I'm not sure if they teach this at driving schools?

Or in UK, indicating RIGHT so that traffic joining from the LEFT knows you are NOT turning left. Then, having entered the circle indicate RIGHT when approaching your exit. Is that so wrong? Not to signal suggests you are going straight ahead but may simply have forgotten to signal.

Biggest problem with turn indicators is you often can't see them or they are irrelevant. Why, if at a junction you are in the left hand lane does the driver behind you need to know which way you will turn? Similarly in a single lane, there is nothing that they need to know.

If you are going to turn left at a T-junction traffic approaching from your right cannot see any signals. Traffic from your left can see your signal, but so what? You are no threat to him. If you are going straight ahead - no signal - and you are still no threat to him.

If a car in the main road indicates a left turn, the driver wishing to enter would be foolish moving until the approaching car is committed to the turn. It also sends a signal to following traffic that it is 'safe' to overtake .

Pedestrians are a different matter but I submit the only valid signal for a car is when turning right across the traffic flow. It informs following drivers why you have stopped and not to overtake you. It informs approaching drivers that you are about to make a suicide dash in front of them if they have seen you.

Heresy I know but think about how your signal can be seen and understood.

WilliumMate
13th Feb 2018, 09:25
One of the problems that I find while driving a truck is the number of car drivers that will overtake on the left on a roundabout. I'm slow, especially when heavy. Turning right on a roundabout it is not really feasible from the outside lane as I'm long and need room to get the trailer around without dragging it over the roundabout. So, left hand lane (or middle on roundabouts with loads of room) and clear indications always.

ShyTorque
13th Feb 2018, 09:36
From the efforts (if the could be described as that) of many drivers in UK, I doubt that anyone gets taught how to correctly use indicators on roundabouts.

It's not uncommon to see three successive drivers carrying out the same manoeuvre but all indicating differently. Or three drivers indicating in exactly the same way but taking three different exits.

I suffered "road rage" last week from a dilatory driver who approached the "three lane" roundabout in the left lane (for turning left) as I was in the centre lane (going straight ahead). He had been holding up traffic for the previous two miles by driving slowly and erratically (about 30 mph near the centre of the road in a 50 limit). As we entered the roundabout I noticed that he was suddenly cutting right across into the centre lane and was about to hit my front left wing, so I gave one short blast on my horn; iaw with the Highway Code to alert him to my presence. He swerved straight and missed me. There followed a mile and a half of him giving me the finger and mouthing off, with him on my left side along the dual carriageway. I simply stared at him, a man in his fifties, I'd say. Suddenly he slowed from 50 mph to about 35 (speed limit was 50) and dropped right back. I still can't work out what he was thinking.

Pontius Navigator
13th Feb 2018, 10:01
One of the problems that I find while driving a truck is the number of car drivers that will overtake on the left on a roundabout. I'm slow, especially when heavy. Turning right on a roundabout it is not really feasible from the outside lane as I'm long and need room to get the trailer around without dragging it over the roundabout. So, left hand lane (or middle on roundabouts with loads of room) and clear indications always.

In general I agree though your post is slightly confusing. I agree you may need to be in the left lane when turning right, but surely this will prevent undertaking. If you are in the left hand lane for manoeuvre space then the danger is a car overtaking on your right and intending to go straight ahead - I was almost caught that way once.

If you intending to drive straight ahead, do you aim for the right lane on entry and then cross over using a minimum line?

WilliumMate
13th Feb 2018, 10:13
If it is two way traffic then always left irrespective of exit but always indicating my intention. On large roundabouts depending on the amount of traffic left or middle, again indicating. A problem is when there are dedicated lanes for exits. I can take the correct lane but cars also wanting to exit on the same route will use lanes right or left of me and cut across. It's usually not a big issue but where one car goes others will follow and chance their arm, often having to stop and block traffic flow in the lane they are in as I exit the roundabout. It does cause road rage and can be stopped by a bit of thought and courtesy.

Pontius Navigator
13th Feb 2018, 10:42
I got caught once like that, not against a truck but car and trailer. He was in the left hand lane all the way going for exit 3 or 4 (lots of exits). I entered in lane 2 and was moving to leave on second exit when he merged from my left. I let him ahead and was about to slip behind when we saw a very long low trailer, longer than his Volvo. Almost collected it. Fortunately the car behind me was being driven well and also stopped in good time.

Remember another time when I was in lane one going for a second exit and was shouldered onto the motorway slip - not alternative but a 12 mile detour :(

Krystal n chips
13th Feb 2018, 10:50
This bit of news is definitely for the denizens of this thread......so many of you after all are besotted with this anachronism ( and the Empire ).


Commonwealth in secret succession plans - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43040240)

Time to send in a few gunboats eh chaps !..... Just to remind those bolshy colonial types who is in charge !

WilliumMate
13th Feb 2018, 10:56
I often thought the Scottish independance question could be settled that way. Encourage Wee Nicky to declare UDI. We could then be suitably outraged etc., and send a small inshore minesweeper to sit off Invergordon for a few days then give in. Job done!

:}

treadigraph
13th Feb 2018, 11:01
Out cycling once, just after a set of traffic lights I was being safely overtaken by a guy in a king-sized BMW when an oncoming car driven by a 20-something girl swerved into our lane to overtake traffic queuing at the lights and reach the right turn filter lane. The BMW driver managed to avoid both her and still give me some space. I caught him up at the next roundabout and was able to thank him...

I see that kind of driving frequently, absolutely no thought about what oncoming traffic might have to do to avoid a collision; should merit a instant ban.