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Levelmind
3rd Feb 2018, 16:47
Hi,

I came across a scenario recently, at which I don't quite know the answer to (note that I'm mainly wondering regarding European airspace, and not the US):
So, let's say we're flying into an airport that is fairly busy, so, we get speed control. Initially ATC gives us 300kts on conversion, during descent, and a bit later, at around FL200, tells us to fly 260kts or greater. So far so good. But what about when we pass FL100? Should we still fly 260kts or greater, because he told us to, (although, he never told us, e.g. high speed approved, or something similar)? Or should we still respect the 250kts below FL100 rule, and thereafter resume normal speed unless he tells us anything in specific.?


Thanks in advance!

Dan Dare
3rd Feb 2018, 17:03
Do as you’re told unless you can’t, then say so.

eckhard
3rd Feb 2018, 17:15
I would simply ask ATC whether they wanted me to reduce to 250kts before I passed FL100.

Intruder
3rd Feb 2018, 18:34
In the US, ATC cannot clear you above 250kts below 10,000'. You are expected to slow to 250 at 10K, without further clearance.

Hotel Tango
3rd Feb 2018, 22:52
Intruder, FYI the OP clearly states that the question is being asked for European and not US airspace.

Levelmind, in the scenario you provide I wouldn't second guess but request confirmation from ATC.

safelife
4th Feb 2018, 06:07
In Germany they would mention their request to keep a higher speed below 10000 by adding "...even below FL100".

chevvron
4th Feb 2018, 09:04
UK airport STAR charts will show you where the speed limit points are; just ask ATC to confirm 'standard' speed.

Ivor Fynn
4th Feb 2018, 15:00
Never ask a question you don’t want to hear the answer to!

Ivor