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Lonewolf_50
29th Jan 2018, 16:52
The Cambodian police had little sense of humor regarding a drinkfest turned silly (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/cambodia-arrests-foreigners-for-pornographic-dancing/ar-BBIoz2I?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp).

Can't say as I blame them for being annoyed with the foreigners, though.
Cambodian authorities arrested 10 foreigners for "singing and dancing pornographically" at a popular temple site. The authoritarian regime has become increasingly intolerant of lewd behavior at sacred tourist spots.


Details at the link.

But the label is a can of worms just dying to be opened.
Crimes against our Culture. Will this be the topic of a new UN resolution?

obgraham
29th Jan 2018, 17:19
As long as the "culture" being attacked is not Western Culture, then it is obviously a crime.

Otherwise it is a virtue.

annakm
29th Jan 2018, 18:56
Do Americans find the burning of their national flag a crime against their culture?

In the same way that the drawing a picture of the prophet Mohammed is a crime against a culture?

If I wear a short skirt or low cut top in certain countries, is that a crime against their culture?

If another woman is wearing a complete burqa in the West a crime against a culture?

evansb
29th Jan 2018, 19:34
The answer to the above questions is: yes.

Gertrude the Wombat
29th Jan 2018, 20:14
Do Americans find the burning of their national flag a crime against their culture?
Probably, but that really is snowflake territory - they shouldn't.
In the same way that the drawing a picture of the prophet Mohammed is a crime against a culture?
It shouldn't be.
If I wear a short skirt or low cut top in certain countries, is that a crime against their culture?
That one depends a bit - if you go into someone's church or restaurant or mosque or whatever it's polite to follow their rules (although personally I avoid restaurants with dress codes because I'd rather they spent their effort worrying about the food than worrying about what the punters are wearing).
If another woman is wearing a complete burqa in the West a crime against a culture?
Only if she's not a Muslim and is doing it solely to take the piss.

Mr Optimistic
29th Jan 2018, 20:23
Yes, yes, yes, no. We have a tolerant liberal culture, just have to be honest and recognise that others don't and be prepared to defend ourselves without too much self-indulgent soul searching.

Trossie
29th Jan 2018, 21:21
Only if she's not a Muslim and is doing it solely to take the piss.Is there a problem with that?

meadowrun
29th Jan 2018, 21:33
Do face some facts mankind:


Not every culture is worth preserving or is worthy of respect.
Some are failed and twisted cultures still encased in primordial mud.
Like individual human beings there are some real prats out there.

ChrisVJ
30th Jan 2018, 02:33
Headline is deliberately provocative.

"Temple site" wasn't. The party was in a private villa in Siem Reip. For sure that is the town where you find Angor Wat but a private villa is not quite a "temple site."

I'm not into rowdy parties (actually I just don't get invited,) but none of the pictures I have seen are close to pornographic. The participants appear to be playing something like that game where you put your foot or hand down somewhere that gets you all tangled up. Remember too, people there, especially the tourists, are mostly walking about in short shorts and T shirts. Cambodia doesn't have much of a dress code.

Might be a bit of a hidden agenda here. Someone getting rid of a noisy neighbour or a rival tour company?

charliegolf
30th Jan 2018, 04:25
The answer to the above questions is: yes.

But a pole dancer in an Old Glory thong is ok.

CG

obgraham
30th Jan 2018, 05:34
The situation varies with the location relative to the "offendee":

Burn the flag in USA, yes, that's a crime against our culture.
Burn the US flag in Sweden, we don't control that.

Draw nasties of mohammed in Saudi arabia, expect to get the big chop. Crime.
Write stores about him IN THE UK, NO FATWAH EXPECTED.

Wear that short skirt in the Vatican, yes, they'll show you the door.
Wear in on the beach in Brighton, not so much.

It's people that don't understand context that are the problem, not just going about outlawing stuff.

hiflymk3
30th Jan 2018, 07:57
When in Rome.

highflyer40
30th Jan 2018, 08:51
Do face some facts mankind:


Not every culture is worth preserving or is worthy of respect.
Some are failed and twisted cultures still encased in primordial mud.
Like individual human beings there are some real prats out there.

“Facts”? Where were the facts in your post there?

I know who your post was aimed at, but would apply just as much to Christianity.

Katamarino
30th Jan 2018, 15:17
The situation varies with the location relative to the "offendee":
Burn the flag in USA, yes, that's a crime against our culture.


Not so; nothing is done about it. People can tut a bit, but that's it.


Draw nasties of mohammed in Saudi arabia, expect to get the big chop. Crime.
Write stores about him IN THE UK, NO FATWAH EXPECTED.


While this *should* be the case, Charlie Hebdo and others would disagree with how true this is in reality.

galaxy flyer
30th Jan 2018, 15:55
“Facts”? Where were the facts in your post there?

I know who your post was aimed at, but would apply just as much to Christianity.

Would not meadowrun’s idea apply to the Nazis, the various Communits regimes like Pol Pot and Stalin, Cuban and Venezulan idiocracies?

GF

Trossie
30th Jan 2018, 19:28
When in Rome.Does this also apply to people coming to Britain?

ZFT
30th Jan 2018, 20:04
A few months ago, a couple of American gays thought it acceptable to expose their rear ends on Facebook at a famous temple here in Bangkok.

They won't do it again!

As has been stated, when in Rome.

I'm sure there is much more to the Cambodian story than has been reported so far.

hiflymk3
30th Jan 2018, 20:24
Does this also apply to people coming to Britain?

No quite sure what you mean but yes, one should abide by the laws of the country in which you are a guest. A little research into cultural dos and don'ts should keep you out of trouble.

ShotOne
30th Jan 2018, 21:05
"A little research into cultural dos and don'ts". Since when has a long prison sentence been a cultural norm anywhere for playing silly games in a private place?

"I'm sure there's much more to this..." Do you have any reason for saying this; if there were aggravating factors, why would the police have withheld them?

Trossie
30th Jan 2018, 21:35
No quite sure what you mean but yes, one should abide by the laws of the country in which you are a guest. A little research into cultural dos and don'ts should keep you out of trouble.It would be nice to see that happen.

hiflymk3
30th Jan 2018, 21:47
"A little research into cultural dos and don'ts". Since when has a long prison sentence been a cultural norm anywhere for playing silly games in a private place?

"I'm sure there's much more to this..." Do you have any reason for saying this?

I'm sure they'll get let off with a slap on the wrist to be made an example to others who like to treat the world like it's a free house for stag parties. Us Brits are pretty good at that as in this case.

Gertrude the Wombat
30th Jan 2018, 22:05
Does this also apply to people coming to Britain?
Yes. Unless you're the only one who doesn't object to foreigners who can't get their heads around queuing, not cycling on the wrong side of the road, ect ect,

Trossie
31st Jan 2018, 06:56
Yes. Unless you're the only one who doesn't object to foreigners who can't get their heads around queuing, not cycling on the wrong side of the road, ect ect,Queuing and cycling were not really what I was thinking of with that question! By the way, that is a very 'Cambridge' reply!!

ShotOne
31st Jan 2018, 08:17
Slap on the wrist? Hardly, hifly; they're presently in crowded, infested prison cells, heads shaved in vile conditions.

Sallyann1234
31st Jan 2018, 09:35
Slap on the wrist? Hardly, hifly; they're presently in crowded, infested prison cells, heads shaved in vile conditions.
We have quite a few people here at home who could benefit from a year or two of such conditions.

Can we send them over?

hiflymk3
31st Jan 2018, 15:41
Slap on the wrist? Hardly, hifly; they're presently in crowded, infested prison cells, heads shaved in vile conditions.

Maybe that's a slap on the wrist Cambodia style. I'm sure some diplomatic wrangling will get them out soon.

ShotOne
1st Feb 2018, 05:55
It’s not even clear that what’s alleged is illegal even under Cambodian law. There’s nothing in their penal code I can see about playing twister in a private villa.

More like state-sponsored virtue signalling from a government happy to tolerate a multi-million sex industry

Lonewolf_50
1st Feb 2018, 16:23
What, hypocrites in Cambodia? Perish the thought. :rolleyes:
(At this point won't one of our huggy fluffs accuse you of being a racist?)


As for those who responded by going all Godwin: can we please keep this threat Nazi free? Thanks.