Employer Engagement Waffle---Whohooo

[Scoreboard]

What a poor breakdown of a very poor engagement of the pilot body.

The conclusion seemed to gloss over how bad it was with its structure/presentation.

then you had the photo headshots with their little words of how they will fix things ....which basically said nothing...cost nothing....when hey paying your Captains would go a long way to addressing things.

We going to improve communication while they are running the social media policy under the guise of punishing anyone who doesnt spout the company line.

How about stop screwing with the contract since it seems your only imaginative way to save money is to screw your most important staff into the ground when the rest of the aviation market is waking to the need for pilots, i.e.pay your staff.

[Arfur Dent]

Swire so-called Management have been spouting "poverty" since about 1991 to very good effect. It was planned to work until the bottom of the barrel was reached and that's where we are now. Unfortunately, the creatures that now occupy the Senior posts such as DFO, GMA etc etc are so bereft of ideas (and/or authority) and are such died in the wool money grabbers, they are literally fiddling while Rome burns and hoping to God they can move on before the whole enterprise collapses around them. They are in denial completely and relying on the fact that this modus operandi has worked pretty much entirely in their favour for 27 gruelling years. Too late to turn the leviathan? Yeh maybe!

[Scoreboard]

nailed it Arfur

[cxorcist]

Sadly, I think Arfur is correct. It will take a true act of God to right the ship. She is taking on water at a massive rate. The DFO and her minions seem to think plugging holes with their fingers and talking others into doing the same will save us.

May this be a warning to all those (myself included) who are considering staying or, even worse, joining.

[Apple Tree Yard]

cxorcist. my experience over the past 6 months tells me that anyone under the age of 45 is planning on leaving as quickly as they can. bank on it.

[VR-HFX]

ATY

Not just the under 45's. There is a raft...no a cruise ship...of senior captains in the departure lounge. Watch the seniority list in the second quarter of this year. It takes a lot for people who have invested 20 years in career to leave, but our current management has managed that feat. Major resignations will complete the demise of what was once a great airline and a great place to work. #RIPCX

[Flex88]

Actually, for me, the worst part is something I have never experienced before and following 25+ years of these Swire "management" bonzos ant their "pilot" sycophant "leadership" slaves is,,,, I just don't give a S*** any more.

A very new and unnerving feeling for many no doubt...

[Flex88]

A friend sent me this and it's got to be a perfect example of how this company has hit the bottom of the barrel. Just read this "leadership" gobbledygook and it personifies exactly the BS this company is using to make itself seem relevant.

Leadership Announcement:

"Her role will be to lead the insight team to interpret data analysis and insight research to develop deep qualitative understanding of our customers. This will ensure we develop new products and provide experiences that they truly value.

It's too late CX... RIP

[Dilbert68]

You are not alone in not giving a sh!t anymore Flex. Nobody really does and the brand which has taken so long to build? It is imploding.

Cathay Pacific has entered that part of the low altitude steep turn where the nose drops, too late to do anything. If our DFO was actually a pilot she may understand the analogy...

[Air Profit]

Flex, please tell me that quote was made up? Surely no sane person would spout of using such unintelligible language? If that is for real, we are truly :mad: as an airline. I can't believe how utterly lost our management are. AT/RH, please both just go away before you leave nothing but wreckage (and it may/probably is already to late to save). :ugh:

[Flex88]

Here's a customer tip made "without qualitative data analysis" - bring back salt and pepper......

[Brokeidiot]

Another tip stop using the incorrect aircraft for that route... passengers tend to want to arrive with their bags not having their bags arrive 3 hours later.

[Mill Worker]

This operation is now established in the spiral dive. It appears the latest cost cut is turning off the heating in the Headland... On request the will give you a 2000w plug in heater, very energy efficient.

[joblow]

The truly sad thing is and it seems that this mis-management team cannot or don’t wish to acknowledge it., is the loss of experience that goes with every senior capt’s departure .
This does not stop with Capt’s , it goes with most of the F.O’s. As well , [no sleight intended for the S.Os ]
an airline cannot sustain a mass experience loss of this magnitude , especially on some of the routes we fly , ULH , heavy freighters on back of the clock operations , bad weather, snow , ice storms , . There are times when experience is the only friend you have and that comes from thousands of hours in the cockpit .
I used to care , I cared about ON time departure , I cared about passenger comfort, I cared about saving fuel. I cared about going the extra mile . I cared enough to use discretion until I was short changed on allowances for about the tenth time [ I know slow learner ]
Now the only thing I care about are my family ,days off , and how much I’m getting paid plus overtime . There is no fuel reduction, no discretion ,no optimum level , no rush for on time departure. In fact life is just so much more relaxed when you don’t give a cr-p

[Air Profit]

...and most of us don't give a cr-p. (sorry, that is probably 'all' of us)

[Scoreboard]

Hehe i didnt give a crap about OTP years ago...much more relaxed about life when u just do things when it happens... remember they report your arrival time at gate....log everything those ground staff did....bet they dont give a crap these days.

[1200firm]

The crews are indeed fully engaged. In Active Badwill. Fun and liberating.

[Flex88]

If you want some easy analysis of just how the Swires look at things, just walk about CX HQ today, start in dispatch and work your way up to the 7th floor or so..
What you will see is many workers wearing their heavy jackets with gloves and hats trying to keep warm. Why don't they turn on some heat you might ask? I know because many years ago, with similar temperatures, I did ask.

The straight answer; when they designed our brand new HQ, they only specified a "heat requirement" on 1 particular floor and only in one particular part of the building... I will leave you to guess where that might be.

Now "that" is the Swire perspective on how they view employees
"A Caring Company"

[Farman Biplane]

How about instead of the “just wait” strategy the HKAOA re-engages the numerous pending court cases with vigour!
Bypass pay, SHP, etc
How about “turn up the heat” as a strategy?

[Freehills]

. They know what we need and deserve. Just wait.



A hard rogering without even buying you dinner beforehand, or a hug afterwards? (couldn't resist)

[rustyoldtin]

Have a look at the new Netflix documentary “Dirty Money”.. where HSBC is prominently featured. Maybe we should contact them to investigate Swire.